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Aug-07-20
 | | al wazir: I never even considered 25. Rg6. My move was 25. Qh6, with no clear plan. |
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Aug-07-20
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: White liked his 25th move so much he played it again on move 30! |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Walter Glattke: 25.Qg5 only a change, I never considered Rg6, too. 25.Rg6 hxg6 26.Qh5+ Kg8 27.Qxg6+ Kh8 28.Rg1 Qe7 (threatens Qe1+) 29.Qh6+ Qh7 30.Bxf6+ Rxf6 31.Qxf6+ Qg7 32.Qxg7# ... 28.-Bxc3 29.Rg3 Qh4 30.Bxc3 Qxg3 31.hxg3 Rae8 32.Bh5 Re1+ 33.Kg2 b5 34.Qh6+ Kg8 35.Bg6 Re7 white advantage |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Brenin: Got it! The repetition of Rg6 is pleasing. Black's only hope of survival is 30 ... Be8 31 Rxf6 Qe1+ 32 Kg2 Rg8+ 33 Rg6 (yet again!) with, crucially, discovered check 33 ... Qe5, and after Bxe5+ and Rxg8+ White is a Q ahead. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | agb2002: White has 25.Rg6, to increase the pressure along the a1-h8 diagonal and to incorporate the rook on a1: A) 25... hxg6 26.Qh6+ Kg8 27.Qxg6+ Kh8 (27... Bg7 28.Qxg7#) 28.Qh5+ Kg8 (28... Kg7 29.Rg1#) 29.Rg1+ Bg5 30.Qg6#. B) 25... Bxd4 26.Qxd4+ wins decisive material.
C) 25... Qe7 26.Re1 Qxe1+ (26... Qf7 27.Bxf6+ wins decisive material) 27.Qxe1 C.1) 27... hxg6 28.Bxf6+ Rxf6 29.Qe7 wins decisive material. C.2) 27... Rae8 28.Qd2 hxg6 29.Qh6+ Kg8 30.Qxg6+ Kh8 31.Bxf6+, etc. C.3) 27... Bxd4 28.Rxd6, with the double threat cxd4 and Rxd7, wins decisive material. D) 25... Rf7 26.Rxf6 Rxf6 27.Qg5 wins decisive material. E) 25... Be8 26.Rxf6 as above. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | pauldo: Got 25. Rg6 to gang up on the bishop on f6 noting that if black takes the rook white has a "back rank" mate pattern on the file with queen and remaining rook. |
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Aug-07-20
 | | master8ch: On his 27th move, Black plays Qg7, allowing White to play 28.Rg1 with gain of time. If 27...Qf7, instead, then 28.Rg1, and if A) 28...Rf8, then 29.Qh6 sets up White's patented Rg6 maneuver, about which Black can do nothing. If, for example, 29...Be8, just to aim one more piece at g6, White still plays 30.Rg6! Then if 30...Qxg6, 31.Qxf8+ Qg8 32.Bxf6++. However, if B) 28...Rg8, immediately contesting the g-file, Black can hold on. If 29.Rxg8+, 29...Kxg8 unpins the Rook, and if 29.Qh6, then 29...Rxg1+ 30.Kxg1 Qg7+, exchanging Queens. Then, if 32.Bh5, Black plays 32...f4, and the pressure's off. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: I got the first couple of moves. But I became less accurate later on the combination, specifically by overlooking how Re1 gains an important tempo. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | latebishop: 25.Rg6!!-what a beautiful Tal like move. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | sfm: <master8ch: ...> But if 27.-,Qf7, then not 28.Rg1, but 28.Qg5,Rf8 29.Bh5,Qg7 30.f4, all forced.
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Black is tied on hands and feet. His bishop must cover e6, and there are various problems with attacks on 7th and 8th rank after swapping Queens and more at the right time. It is completely over. Black lost the game with the harmless looking and natural 24.-,Bd7??, and we have seen the rest.
The right move was 24.-,f4!, opening up for counterplay for Black's rook and bishop. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Predrag3141: <master8ch, sfm Re: 27 ... Qf7> Before planning 26 Rxf6 Rxf6 27 Re1, I thought 27 ... Qf7 simply lost a tempo to 28 Bh5. It's not that simple, but White does win with it. a) 27 ... Qf7 28 Bh5 Qxd5+ 29 f3 wins the rook on f6 outright, leaving White a piece up. b) 27 ... Qf7 28 Bh5 Qxh5 29 Bxf6+ Kg8 30 Rg1+ Kf7 31 Rg7+ and the bishop is immune. Black can only stop White's attack by sacrificing his queen. A 15 minute Stockfish run gives this line. |
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Aug-07-20
 | | chrisowen: Rorke's drift g6 no? |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Walter Glattke: agb D) 27.Qg5 seems mating, 27.-Qe7 28.Rg1 h6 29.Qxh6+ Qh7 30.Bxf6# 28.-Raf8 29.Qg7# |
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| Aug-07-20 | | TheaN: I didn't get this, but without any remorse today, because this is beautiful carnage. They should frame the 25th and 30th move and dedicate a museum to this combination alone. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | thegoodanarchist: I wonder if Catalin plays the Catalan? |
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| Aug-07-20 | | thegoodanarchist: Ruslan’s friends call him the Sultanici of Swing |
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| Aug-07-20 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: After trying 25.♕g5 and 25.♕g6, it was easy to find 25.♖e6! because the simple sequence: {25...hxg6 26. Qh6+ Kg8 (26...Bg7? Qxg7#) 27. Qxg6+ Kh8 28. Qh6+ Kg8 29. Rg1+ Kf7 30. Bh5+ Ke7 31. Rg7+ Bxg7 32. Qxg7+ Rf7 33. Qxf7#. Obviously, the quick end is directy 29.♗h5 and 30.♖g1# next. (e.g. 29...♕e7 30. ♖g1+ ♕g7 31. ♖xg7+ ♗xg7 32. ♕xg7#).
Therefore, if the sacrifice is correct, the following moves must be correct too. If 25...♗xd4 26. ♕xd4+ win easily.
Also 25...♗e8? 26. ♖xf6 ♖xf6 27. ♕g5 ♕d7 28. ♕xf6+ ♔g8 29. ♕h8+ ♔f7 30. ♕g7#. However, for the sequence 25...♕e7 26. ♖xf6 ♖xf6 27. ♖e1 I suppose that Black would answer 27...♕f7! 28. ♕h6 ♖f8. Then, I can't see a clear win for white, after 29.♖g1 ♗c8 and white has not 30.♖g6 due to 30...♕xg6. And 30.♗h5 ♕e7 31.♖g6 ♕e1+ 32.♔g2 ♕e4+ 33.♔h3 ♕d3+... (with perpetual checks, if 33. ♗f3?? ♕xd4 34. cxd4 ♖xg6+). Therefore the Black must move 28...♕f7! 29. ♕h6 ♖f8 and I think that Black escapes if he can hold the checks. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: <thebadanarquist> "hear the CHESS go down"... |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Predrag3141: <King.Arthur.Brazil: After trying 25.♕g5 and 25.♕g6, it was easy to find 25.♖e6! > 25 Re6 is not a legal move but I think your starting position was correct and 25 Rg6 was meant, based on the ensuing analysis. |
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Aug-07-20
| | NM JRousselle: This game reminds me of the very famous Pillsbury-Lasker game from 1896 where Lasker sac-ed each rook on a3. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | saturn2: .I looked at 25 Rg6
25... hxg6 26. Qh6+ Kg8 27. Qxg6+ Kh8 28. Qh6+ K-
g8 29. Rg1
25...Bxd4 26. Qxd4+ Rf6 27. Qxf6+ Qxf6 28. Rxf6 25...Qe7 26. Re1 in this line did not see the quick win but after Rxf6 white would at least get back the exchange |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Brenin: <King.Arthur.Brazil>: In line 10 of your post "After trying ...", after 29 Rg1 Bc8 (did you mean Be8?) White can play 30 Rg6 since 30 ... Qxg6 is answered with 31 Qxf8+ Qg8 32 Bxf6#. Black has no escape from mate or serious loss of material. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Predrag3141: <King.Arthur.Brazi: However, for the sequence 25...♕e7 26. ♖xf6 ♖xf6 27. ♖e1 I suppose that Black would answer 27...♕f7! 28. ♕h6 ♖f8. Then, I can't see a clear win for white> Above I suggested 27 ... Qf7 28 Bh5, and I appear to have ruled out the two most obvious replies, 28 ... Qxd5 and 28 ... Qxh5. All I can see that's left is to lose a tempo, e.g. 28 ... Qg7 and the game continues much like actual play. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | Everett: Really attractive finish. Interesting that Black had <24...f4!> at his disposal, delaying White’s Q’s access time the K-side while freeing his own LSB along the c8-h3 diagonal. |
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| Aug-07-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 16.Bh6 black was fine, 16...gxf5 holds well
click for larger viewStockfish_20073110_x64_modern:
<52/38 03:20 0.00 16...gxf5 17.Bxf8 Qxf8> 18.Rab1 fxg4 19.Nd2 Bg5 20.Ne4 Nxe4 21.Bxe4 Qh6 22.Qa4 Kf8 23.Rxb7 Bxb7 24.Rb1 Bh4 25.Rxb7 Qc1+ 26.Kg2 Qf4 27.Qc2 Rc8 28.c4 h5 29.Rh7 Rxc4 30.Qxc4 Qxf2+ 31.Kh1 Qe1+ 32.Kg2 |
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