Jun-23-25
 | | takebackok: Easy looking no think Monday, hello 32. Rxh6+ Kxh6 33. Nxf5+ Kh7 34. Rh1+ Kg8 35. Nh6+ etc. Or 32. Rxh6+ Kxh6 33. Nxf5+ Kg5 34. Nh3+ Kxf5 35. Qc2+ Ke5 36. Qe4# |
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| Jun-23-25 | | Walter Glattke: a) 32.Rxh6+ Kxh6 33.Nxf5+ Kg5 34.g4 Bc3 35.Nh5++ Kg6 36.Qh6# b) 34.Ne6++ (match) Kg6 35.Qh6+ Kxf5 36.Re1Qxe6 37.dxe6 Bg5 38.Qh7+ c) 33.Rh1+ Kg7 34.Nxf5+ Kg8 35.Ne6 Nc5 36.Nh6+ Kg8 37.Nxf7++ Kh8 38.Nxf8 |
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| Jun-23-25 | | Walter Glattke: Correction: so tricky, a) 35.Ne6++ Kf6 36.Qg5+ Ke5 37.Ne7+ Qf5 38.Nc6# nice hop hop |
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| Jun-23-25 | | mel gibson: I got the first ply right..
Stockfish 17 declines the Rook and says:
32. Rxh6+
(32. Rxh6+ (1.Rxh6+ Kg8 2.Nxf5 Bg7 3.Nxg7 Qxg7 4.Rg6 Qxg6 5.Nxg6 Rfe8
6.Nh4 Ne5 7.Qg5+ Kf7 8.Qf5+ Ke7 9.Re1 Kd8 10.f4 Ra8 11.fxe5 a4 12.e6 Kc8
13.e7+ Kb7 14.Qd7 Rac8 ) +11.24/41 523)
score for White +11.24 depth 41.
If I force SF to accept the Rook it's mate in 16: 32. Rxh6+ Kxh6
33. Nxf5+ (33. Nxf5+ (1.Nxf5+ Kh7 2.Rh1+ Kg8 3.Nh6+ Kg7 4.Ne6+ Qxe6 5.dxe6 Rh8 6.exd7 Rcf8
7.Qf4 Rxh6 8.Qxh6+ Kf7 9.Qh7+ Ke6 10.Qe4+ Be5 11.Rh7 d5 12.Qxd5+ Kf5
13.Rf7+ Kg6 14.Qe6+ Kh5 15.Qf5+ Kh6 16.Rh7+) +M16/64 73) White wins _ mate in 16. |
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| Jun-23-25 | | saturn2: Black's threat is Bxh4 therefore 32.Rxh6 Kxh6 then white has two checks 33.Nxf5 and 33. Rh1 both seemed strong enough. But if you want to go through all the lines it is long. |
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Jun-23-25
 | | Dionysius1: This shouldn't be called very easy when Black's best reply to 32.Rxh6+ is 32...Kg8 and that line goes on half a dozen moves. Even if Black gives up and does play 32...Kxh6 there are no immediate forcing lines leading to mate. Sorry, whoever is selecting these puzzles (and woe betide you cg.com if it's AI). This is no good. And I won't bother now with what I used to think of as one of cg.com's outstanding features. I'll check again in September, but my suspicion is this function is no longer fit for purpose, and won't be ffp by then either. Yuck! |
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Jun-23-25
 | | chrisowen: I beck its swot jah its y Rxh6 its abridge its lid its a cuff muff its arrive its seem its cab club Rxh6 its ef; |
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| Jun-23-25 | | TheaN: Kind of straightforward combination, but definitely on the difficult side for a Monday. White's rook is attacked and we counterattack instead, <32.Rxh6+ Kxh6> as mentioned, 32....Kg8 is the best move but I don't think that merits analysis on a Monday: White opens the h-file, saves the rook and wins two pawns after 33.Nxf5 +-. However, the sac spells doom, <33.Nxf5+ Kg5> again, 33....Kg8 best move but Black doesn't want to continue 34.Nh6+ +- with the kingside ripped open. <34.Ne6+!> this doublecheck sets up a flashy finish <34....Kxf5 (Kh5 35.Qh6#)> Kg6 is technically the longest path to mate, but also a bit more straightforward: 35.Qh6+ Kxf5 36.g4+ Ke5 37.Qe3# <35.Qd3+> and the queen, knight and kingside pawns work together to drive the Black commander to his doom: <35....Ke5 36.f4# (Qe4# is blasphemy)>. <Dionysius1: This shouldn't be called very easy when Black's best reply to 32.Rxh6+ is 32...Kg8 and that line goes on half a dozen moves.> Whilst I wouldn't praise CG's feature in the recent years (have been criticizing it for months now), this point is a bit moot. Quite often are there 'non-analyzable' lines in these easy puzzles in the sense of 'not accepting the sac is plain lost' which is the case here. Black loses h6 and f5 for nothing with open e- and h-files, and will await an agonizing endgame if reached. The point is analyzing 32.Rxh6+ Kxh6 wins for White, not that 32....Kg8 is best for Black. Do remember that CG is bound to played games and sidelines that partially spoil a puzzle will exist more often than not (regardless of how puzzles are picked). I can fault them for selecting this but that's primarily because the accepted line is much longer than a usual Monday. |
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Jun-23-25
| | Dionysius1: I don't know though, <TheaN>. A "very easy" solution which involves the sacrifice of a N and a R for a mate in 4? Not encouraging for novices (one of the groups cg.com cares about) and what will the rest of the week be like when the puzzles are supposed to get harder as we go along? Nope, on balance I think it's not fit for purpose any more. Roll on September! |
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| Jun-23-25 | | TheaN: I'm not judging your decision. Haven't been happy with the feature for a while now, I tend to do the first three or four and then just stop because weekends tend to be even crazier. Godspeed. |
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| Jun-23-25 | | stone free or die: The "classic" Monday problem usually involved a forcing queen sacrifice with a clear tactical follow-up. Also always clear, clean and short.
I agree this isn't a canonical Monday.
Is User: kev no longer doing the problems? . |
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| Jun-23-25 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: The line seems clear, but the king didn't see an immediate check mate: 32. Rxh6+ Kxh6 33. Rh1+ Kg5 (now, the problem is 34. Rh5+ Qxh5 35. Nxh5 Kxh5 36. Nxf5 Kg6 and B has much material and no check-mate at hands. Or 34. Ne6+ Kg6 35. Ng4 Rh8 36. Rh6+ Rxh6 37. Qxh6# or 35. Ng4 fxg4 36. Rh6+ Kf5 37. Qf4#) 34. Ne6+ Kg6 35. Ng4 Qg8 36. Rh6+ Kf7 37. Rxf6+ Nxf6 38. Nh6+ Ke8 39. Nxg8 Rxg8 40. Qh6 and W has the best position. The alternative is: 35. Ng4 Qh7 36. Rxh7 Kxh7 37. Qh6+ Kg8 38. Qg6+ Kh8 39. Nxf8 Rxf8 40. Qh5+ Kg7 41. Nh6 Be7... win. |
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Jun-23-25
 | | Sally Simpson: Agree it is not a sac/sac mate Monday 'easy' puzzle. These are (were) always a fun way to start the week and boost your ego. <Dionysius1> may be right and AI is picking the puzzles. We will soon know if this happening when a whole batch of S.F. to play and win puzzles start cropping up. |
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| Jun-23-25 | | Hercdon: A very thick mating net |
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Kibitzing
sac: 32.Rxh6+