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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Barring a letdown, the Mavs are moving to the Western Conference finals... |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: I would have taken a 25-1 bet Dallas couldn't sweep the Lakers, and I would have lost. |
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May-08-11 | | Whitehat1963: Bye bye, Kobe! |
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May-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: Looks like Phil is headed for his ranch in Montanna... |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Lamar Odom just thrown out of the game and Phil Jackson looks like a zombie. |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Bynum just thrown out of the game! |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: Yeah, looks like Phil will have to be satisfied with his crummy 13 titles (2 Knicks, 6 Chicago, 5 LA). |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Phil Jackson was fortunate to have those Chicago and LA teams handed to him with Superstars. Red Auerbach had to suffer many bad years before he made a name for himself. As for his playing days, with the players on that Knicks team, Phil was fortunate as well. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: I agree to some degree about the Lakers, not about Chicago. No way was it easy to make that a championship team (Collins couldn't). First he got Pippen to play up to his potential, then got the Jordanaires to play well in support of Jordan. Not easy. As for Auerbach, no argument there. Great coach (no assistant coaches, no GM either), great evaluator of talent: Russell, Heinsohn, Havlicek, Sam Jones, John Thompson (just kidding), Silas, Sanders, Cowens and JoJo White (later). He didn't want Cousy, though, got him anyway, then learned how to use him. |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: 122-86 final |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: I don't know if they keep this record, but I bet the 85 from the bench has got to be a playoff record. Unreal. |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Bynum and Odom were clearly frustrated, but those fouls were a disgrace. |
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May-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: In all fairness to Phil Jackson, you get "handed" a Laker all star team, because you have a proven record of keeping a great team on top, and doing the necessary tinkering to make them better. Would Kobe Bryant listen to Eric Spoelestra? He probably thinks the coach is an entre at Spraggos. Same for Coach Pat Riley. He got the Knicks in the finals, after running all of those great Laker teams. Then, when the Miami coach wasn't getting the most of his personnel, Riles got back into coaching and won a title with the heat, as head coach. I am bit of a Laker hater, because I've never really liked Kobe Bryant, and, it always just seemed a bit too easy for Shaquille Oneil. Those Lakers seemed more like a Hollywood movie, than a sports team. |
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May-08-11 | | Calli: That was ugly. Those two will likely start next year on suspension. |
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May-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: I would like to see a hard salary cap in place, like they have in the nfl. Otherwise, NBA basketball will end up like baseball, a handful of strong teams, and a bunch of weakies. Next big move? Dwight Howard might go to the Lakers, he can opt out of his contract at year end. Thus, the rich get richer. Bad for basketball. Why anyone can watch the Yankees, with their $200 million + payroll beat Oakland 12-2, I will never understand. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: What did Bynum and Odom do? And why didn't Artest do it as well? |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angel... |
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May-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: they each threw cheap shots, one after the other. Mavs smart enough to not retaliate. Mavs shot 20 3 pointers, killed the Lakers. 34 point defeat. I would like the Mavs to get another shot at the finals, they have paid their dues, always having to slug their way past San Antonio or the Lakers. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: I don't know much about salary caps, but I doubt the Lakers can land Dwight Howard. They've already got Kobe earning a ridiculous amount, plus several others with big salaries. Plus Gasol's trade value just took a big drop. |
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May-08-11
 | | HeMateMe: The Lakers can spend as much as they want, as long as they pay the "luxury tax", a fee that goes to the other teams. Ultimately, this beneftits the rich teams that already have a superior roster. Also, the Lakers can take, in a trade, anothe large contract orlando has, let it expire, cut that player, and still be a player for new, fresh bodies. Outside of a hard cap, and raising the minimum (making cheap teams like the Clipppers spend money), I don't know what David Stern can do to keep the Miami Heat situation from occurring again. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: I'm sure you're right, but boy do I hate the idea of "expiring contracts" for players who will be cut as vital parts of deals. I'd so much rather see them made solely in terms of the players who will play. You know, like Kareem for Bridgeman, Meyers, and Winters, or DeBusschere for Bellamy and Komives. I did hear somebody mention the possibility of Odom and Gasol for Howard, but with Gasol just disappearing in the playoffs I'd think that one is gone. |
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May-08-11 | | Calli: <Odom and Gasol for Howard> - It doesn't work as far as matching salaries. I would bargain hard if I was Orlando. The Lakers would have to take Arenas bad contract. LA needs a PG right? Howard and Arenas for Bynum and Gasol. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: That's what it's come to: No, we won't trade Howard for Bynum and Gasol, but if you let us give you Arenas, too, we'll do it. Why do teams even take players like Arenas and others with huge contracts (intending to play them) so often? Teams get tied up with all this money going to poor players. The Knicks have to have been the worse, taking Marbury, Eddy Curry, Zach Randolph (earlier, lousy, overweight version), and another really big guy who couldn't play (can't remember his name) in the mid-200s. Just a disaster all around. I would guess it's time for Fisher to retire, so the Lakers are going to have to find a point guard in any case. |
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May-08-11
 | | chancho: Can the Celtics come back on the Heat?
I'd like to see it, but all those injuries and only in the second round of the playoffs doesn't bode well for the boys from Boston. |
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May-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: If the Celts don't have either of their PGs healthy, it'll be nearly impossible. Unless they can pull Bob Cousy or JoJo White out of a time machine. |
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