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<Jer 20:10-13

Jeremiah said:

"I hear the whisperings of many:
'Terror on every side!
Denounce!
Let us denounce him!'
All those who were my friends are on the watch for any misstep of mine.

Perhaps he'll be trapped; then we can prevail, and take our vengeance on him.

But the LORD is with me, like a mighty champion: my persecutors will stumble, they will not triumph.

In their failure, they will be put to utter shame, to lasting, unforgettable confusion.

O LORD of hosts, you who test the just, who probe mind and heart, let me witness the vengeance you take on them, for to you, I have entrusted my cause.

Sing to the LORD,
praise the LORD,
for he has rescued the life of the poor
from the power of the wicked!">

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<1 Corinthians 13

13 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

9 For we know only in part, and we prophesy only in part; 10 but when the complete comes, the partial will come to an end. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known. 13 And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.>

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<The Promise of the Lord's Coming

The Second Letter of Peter

Chapter 3

1 This is now, beloved, the second letter I am writing to you; in them I am trying to arouse your sincere intention by reminding you

2 that you should remember the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets, and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken through your apostles.

3 First of all you must understand this, that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and indulging their own lusts

4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since our ancestors died, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation!?

5 They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago and an earth was formed out of water and by means of water,

6 through which the world of that time was deluged with water and perished.

7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been reserved for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the godless.

8 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like one day.

9 The Lord is not slow about his promise, as some think of slowness, but is patient with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and everything that is done on it will be disclosed.

11 Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, what sort of persons ought you to be in leading lives of holiness and godliness,

12 waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set ablaze and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire?

13 But, in accordance with his promise, we wait for new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness is at home.

Final Exhortation and Doxology

14 Therefore, beloved, while you are waiting for these things, strive to be found by him at peace, without spot or blemish;

15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him,

16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.

17 You therefore beloved, since you are forewarned, beware that you are not carried away with the error of the lawless and lose your own stability.

18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity.

Amen.>

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<Psalm 23

The Lord is my shepherd; there is nothing I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.>

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Jun-28-08  Hugin: It's white that has to fight hard to equalize, reason many does not understand is because black give a pawn away in several lines. Kasparov played volga Carlsen plays it Topalov too. Volga is a very good opening, giving black a iniative strong bishops/ square control.

However based on earlier experience with this team, and the last comments against volga, i clearly sees it's no opening for this team.

Well it won't matter personally, i doubt i work hard or play at all in the next game. So leaving the stage for you guys for the preparation...Best of luck.

Jun-28-08  DanLanglois: <Hugin: It's white that has to fight hard to equalize>

Ah. Of course this isn't to be taken literally?

<Hugin: However based on earlier experience with this team, and the last comments against volga, i clearly sees it's no opening for this team. >

I have some doubt whether it's possible to swing the voting according to plan, early in the game, towards any particular opening, & if it is, it's probably easier to campaign for something hugely popular/mainstream (which this opening is relatively not). I do not think, however, that I 'clearly see' it's no opening for this team.

BTW, what's this 'comments against volga'?? <Hugin>, I think you're referring to me saying that it's 'a rather great gambit', with one catch, that the lines of the Benko Gambit Declined are tactical and hard to understand. That is not a comment against anything (what, isn't it true?).

Jun-29-08  hcbsb: <DanLanglois: <DanLanglois: <Hugin: If 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 why not try something more interesting like c5?? it's a good choice in my book played by the best there is and gives a more dynamic game. 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 if he picks 3 Nf3 now cxd4 looks good in my eyes..if he picks 3 d5 b5 is very interesting..Whatever he does our opponent and we will have a interesting game. > hmmm...
>

well I think that a mainline Benko Gambit Accepted, for example, might be ideal.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 (3. Nf3 cxd4 is fine w/me) b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. bxa6 g6 6. Nc3 Bxa6 7. e4 Bxf1>

The positive point of this line is that we have a different setup to learn it deeply.

After: 8.Kxf1 d6 9.g3 Bg7 10.Kg2 Nbd7 11.Nf3 0-0

Here we have 12.Re1
I found in a database out of here: 104 games, 37 White 43 draws 24 Black

12.h3...75 games, 32 White 25 draws 18 Black

Probably after 2...c5 he will avoid to play the gambit to surprise us, otherwise he will accept it with our eventual preparation.

One possibilty is the simple:

2...c5 3.e3
Rybka book:

3.e3 g6 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Nc3 O-O 6.Be2 cxd4 7.exd4 d5 8.O-O Nc6 9.Re1

I found:

9...Bg4: 4 games: 2 White 1 draw 1 Black
9...Bf5: 2 games: 1 White 1 draw
9...Be6: 1 game: 1 Black
9...dxc4: 1 game: 1 draw

After 9...Bg4, Rybka eval is:

10.c5 Ne4 -0.03 ply 18th


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Jun-29-08  DanLanglois: <Hugin: Another idea, which is popular at the Grandmaster level as of 2004, is to accept the pawn but then immediately give it back with 4.cxb5 a6 5.b6.>

5...e6 6. Nc3 Nxd5 7. Nxd5 exd5 8. Qxd5 Nc6 9. Nf3 Rb8 10. e4 Be7 11. Bc4 O-O


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book

Jun-29-08  isemeria: <Hugin> You'll have several chances to leave the team when the game actually begins. No need to do it just yet. :-) Because we disagree about so many things, you may have read more to my post than what there actually was. And it may have been a bit confusing because of three different things in one post.

So let me do it once more:

1) Benko/Volga is interesing choice and I'd like to hear/learn more. Especially what people with CC experience think about its soundness. Now that I have read some more about it I'm not so worried anymore, because the nature of the gambit seems to be strategical.

2) The risk of entering the Benoni is real if we play <2...c5>. Just take a look at the discussion in GMYS game after <1. d4 Nf6 2. c4>.

3) My comment on "tactical game" was general and not directed against Benko. This is aan issues where you and I disagree, and that will probably never change.

Jun-29-08  isemeria: One additional problem with planning the opening strategy is the different goals different team members have. Some prefer solid approach aiming to equalize and if either side makes serious errors then draw will be very likely. Others want to play for the win - even with a considerable risk. These underlying values will naturally effect the choice of opening.

I'm inclined to the solid side and would happy with a draw which would mean 1.5-0.5 win in this two game mini-match against GMAN. If he should play for a win and start taking risks then we'll get our share of the fun too.

Nevertheless, I'm not suggesting to play for a draw from the beginning. What I'd like to see is some strategically sound major opening.

Jun-29-08  kwid: Jun-28-08
< Hugin: > <leaving the stage for you guys for the preparation>

Hugines your are too valuable of a player to loose you for the next game. So I try to encourage you to stick out any adversities of which there will be many yet to come.

As isemeria just pointed out we all have different opinions of how and why we think that the team should follow our direction.

Our challenge here is to come up a formula which can be adopted by the majority. Therefor we need to prepare a convincing case why they should follow our road map.

Jun-30-08  benjinathan: <isemeria> has a good idea (congrats on the preemie by the way):

it may be useful to look at the debate in the GMYS game. The World team was very different, weaker but more congenial. Yet there were hard feelings here:

3...b6 186 votes (31.2%)
3...c5 178 votes (29.9%)
3...d5 146 votes (24.5%)
3...Bb4+ 52 votes (8.7%)

and closed voting.

Jun-30-08  isemeria: <benjinathan> Thanks, it's that 3-months trial for taking the survey. I don't know yet after that.

Yes, in the GMYS game it was after <1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3> we had a very tough discussion and a close vote. I remember having first advocated Benoni, then <pulled a chancho> and turned to QID. I remember I felt quite bad about that kind of behaviour and suspended myself from the game for few moves, as not to cause any more damage in the opening. Those were the times...

Before that there was the choice between <2...e6> and <2...g6>, and IIRC <Thorsson> was one of the influential posters for Nimzo.

Jun-30-08  RookFile: I think the Slav Defense (1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6) is an excellent choice. There is no way he's going to play the exchange variation. Therefore, the game should head towards some of those wild and wooly positions where black has an extra pawn, but white is attacking. Both sides hang by the knife's edge.
Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile: There is no way he's going to play the exchange variation. Therefore, ..>

Ah, there is 'no way' he's going to play the exchange variation. :-)

I submit that there is 'no way' we are going to play 1...d5 (surely, it'll be 1...Nf6, which leads into the Indian defenses). Let me be clear, that this is more of a prediction, than it is a matter of my personal preference--there really is 'no way' we are going to play 1...d5.

Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile>, here, this sort of Semi-Slav book line is, i think, practically lost for Black--any improvements?: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. Be2 O-O 8. O-O dxc4 9. Bxc4 a6 10. Rd1 b5 11. Be2
Jun-30-08  RookFile: I guess this is the kind of practically lost variation that is drawn 60 percent of the time at the professional level, according to the Opening Explorer. Not that I have any particular attachment to it - black could have deviated at numerous points.
Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile: I guess this is the kind of practically lost variation that is drawn 60 percent of the time>

BTW, I don't believe you :-)
Shall I check?

Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile>, I think your anticipation of 'wild and wooly positions where black has an extra pawn, but white is attacking' refers to the Botvinnik variation 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 <5. Bg5>. But this 5. e3 stuff seems 2 me 2b yuk for Black.
Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <DanLanglois: <RookFile: I guess this is the kind of practically lost variation that is drawn 60 percent of the time> BTW, I don't believe you :-)
Shall I check?
>


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Black to move. Here's the sort of thing that can happen. 12...Bb7 13. e4 Bb4 14. e5 Nd5 15. Ng5 g6 16. Ne4


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  kwgurge: <Rookfile> I prefer the semi-slav to the slav and we can avoid his even possibly playing the exchange variation by playing 2...e6 before 3...c6 and yet still get some of the wild and wooly positions you referred to.
Jun-30-08  RookFile: Dan, I think your move numbering is off. It's the 11th move, and black typically plays 11.... Qc7, meeting 12. e4 with 12... e5. Black actually has a plus score in this line in games in this database.
Jun-30-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile>, yes my move numbering is off!
Jul-01-08  DanLanglois: <RookFile: It's the 11th move, and black typically plays 11.... Qc7, meeting 12. e4 with 12... e5. Black actually has a plus score in this line in games in this database.>

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. Be2 O-O 8. O-O dxc4 9. Bxc4 a6 10. Rd1 b5 11. Be2 Qc7 12. e4 e5

'Black actually has a plus score in this line'--really? well.

13. g3

Jul-01-08  DanLanglois: Big Picture
1. d4
1...Nf6
2. c4
2...e6
2...g6
2...c5 (-->Benko Gambit)

1...d5
2. c4
2...c6
2...e6 (-->Semi-Slav)
2...dxc4

I'll suggest these as the major responses to 1. d4.

There has been some rather positively inclined discussion of the Semi-Slav (not counting my own negative comments), and of the Benko Gambit.

There has also been some discussion of the NimzoIndian (strenuous objections lodged against its drawishness, but only by some parties).

Jul-01-08  isemeria: Here's an interesting game, where GMAN loses with the white pieces. And it's Modern Benoni Taimanov variation [A67] of all openings!

A Nickel vs K D Meyer, 1996

So perhaps it's possible to play a risky, double-edged variation. I wonder what happens between moves 15-30 where according my engine the advantage gradually passes to Black. (I have not analyzed the game, just a quick check with an engine).

Jul-01-08  DanLanglois: <ismeria>, in the Nickel/Meyer game, I don't think that anything '"happens" between moves 15-30, in the sense of "where was White's mistake?"

Here's something to chew on, if I may get serious, on White's behalf, against the Benoni.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. e4 g6 7. Nf3 Bg7 8. Be2 O-O 9. O-O Re8 10. Qc2 Na6 11. a3 Qe7 12. Re1 Nc7 13. Bf4

This is a Classical System. Any Black improvements? I'd be very interested in how Black achieves equality, here (he is, in my own special parlance, practically lost..).


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Jul-01-08  kwid: Jul-01-08 < DanLanglois >

Is 10...a6 instead of your Na6 playable?
Here is a line friendly to Rybkas style.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. e4 d6 7. Be2 e6 8. O-O exd5 9. cxd5 Re8 10. Qc2 a6 11. a4 a5 12. Bf4

(12. Bg5 Na6 13. Nd2 Nb4)

(12. Bb5 Bd7 13. Re1 Na6 14. Bxa6 Rxa6)

12... Na6 13. Nd2

(13. Rae1 Nb4 14. Qc1 Bg4 15. Bg5 Qc8 16. Qf4 Nh5 17. Qd2 c4 18. h3 Bxf3 19. Bxf3 Nd3 20. Re2 Nf6)

13...Nb4 14. Qb1 Qe7 15. Re1 Nd7 16. Bb5 Rd8 17. Bxd7 Bxd7 18. Nc4 Be8 19. Qd1 Bd4 20. Qd2 f6 21. Nb5 Bxb5 22. axb5 a4 23. Ra3 Kg7 24. h3 Kg8 25. Bh2 Qf8 26. Nb6 Ra5 27. Qe2 Qe8 28. Nc4 Qxb5 29. Nxa5 Qxa5 30. Rd1 b5 31. h4 Qb6 32. b3 Re8 33. bxa4 bxa4 34. h5 f5 35. hxg6 hxg6 36. Rg3 Kf7 37. Qd2 Rxe4 38. Qg5 Rg4 39. Rxg4 fxg4 40. Qxg4 Nxd5 41. Qd7+ Kf6 42. Bxd6 Qb2 43. Qd8+ Kf5 44. Rf1 Qc2 45. Kh2 Nf6 46. Qc8+ Ke4 47. Re1+ Kd3 48. Bf4 Qxf2 49. Qa6+ c4 50. Rd1+ Ke4 51. Bg3 Ng4+ 52. Kh3 Qf5 53. Qb7+ Ke3 54. Re1+ Kd2 55. Qb4+ Bc3 56. Qd6+ Qd3 57. Qf4+ Kc2 58. Re7 a3 59. Kxg4 a2 60. Ra7 a1=Q 61. Rxa1 Bxa1 62. Qf2+ Qd2 63. Qxd2+ Kxd2 64. Kg5 c3 65. Bf4+ Kd1 66. Bd6 c2 0-1

Jul-02-08  DanLanglois: <kwid>,

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. e4 d6 7. Be2 e6 8. O-O exd5 9. cxd5 Re8 10. Qc2 a6 11. a4 a5 12. Bf4 Na6 13. Nd2 Nb4

14. Qb3 Qe7 15. h3 Nd7 16. Nc4

hmmm


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