2012 ~ USA ~ The 28TH North American Masters: Georg Meier vs. Wesley So ♣ 4 game classical match followed by 4 game rapid match (Tie)>

Here's a blog post where you can find a facsimile of the replaced Wesley So bio page:

https://zanchess.wordpress.com/2017...

It also includes the earliest archived version of his bio which I could find.

<chessgames.com> Color me unimpressed with your Editors' site history knowledge. They try to tell us what happened here two years ago, and five years ago, and eight years ago, and twelve years ago, without knowing what happened here two years ago, and five years ago, and eight years ago, and twelve years ago. Maybe they should spend more time studying and less time lecturing.

I have prepared a Wesley So page test (Sulsol, Supremo, Wesley Chess Café, three basketeers, death threats) for your Editors to answer in real time, after their identities have been fully revealed under proper disclosure. Once the sheer inadequacy of their knowledge base is demonstrated for the record, perhaps they will be less enthusiastic about driving name players off this site.

It's great to have Wesley So posting on his page, and it's nice to have him help edit his bio.

of course it does.

its just that Susan is irrelevant...she and her husband have selfish motives far greater than seeing Wesley reach for the stars...

That makes their contribution trifle and not worthy mentioning in the bio of the greatest chess player who ever lived.

<trifle>

"If Kasparov got involved" is the operative phrase. I have the distinct impression that Mr. Kasparov doesn't care about chessgames, his bio in here or your opinion.

Real world question: how much marketing and promotional cash much a website owner pay to have a top 10 player or major personalities post and get involved at his site?

Frankly, most of us don't even read bios. As far as Wesley So's bio is concerned, it's far too lengthy and as for the content, are you familiar with the term "prerogative"?

mind you, its more than that...it's an online community.

We have to live by rules set out by the council members as it pertains to urgent concerns which in the present case is bio making matters.

Surely the council has passed out a resolution against Wesley's appointed editorial powers but the mayor has exercised his veto powers.

Why contrive & exaggerate? This is what was actually posted:

<<Do players have right of approval over the bios on their player pages?>

No, absolutely not. >

And this:

<First, let is be clear: just because he's the second highest rated player in the world doesn't mean that he has some special privilege as a CG editor. In the world of chess, he's one in a million. As a CG editor, he's one of a few dozen.

They are simply not going to give Wesley So the right to post any bio he wants without any controls. It cannot be more clear.

Read what <tiggler> just posted. He explains it well.

<Ultimately, there is a sweet spot and the business did ask everyone to "...just remain calm and we'll get through with this.">

Yes, they did.. That does not mean they are going to permit a fraudulent bio to be published. (I am NOT saying that is what Wesley So would do. It's only a possibility.)

cg.com seem to want to see what So will say (of course he has no more rights than anyone else on here, that he is number 2, so what?): and they are not impressed with any 'rights' he might have outside legal issues and as long as there is no defamation and as this is cgs site of course they can edit and replace the old bio. Does he pay and is he a member? Even if he does it makes no difference. cg.com are right not to fold to any pressure (I don't think it is coming directly from Wesley So himself).

No one who wants the old or maybe another bio with the cooperation of Wesley So is questioning So's integrity of greatness as a chess player.

The United States is still a democracy with a Constitution and rights (we wont go into World History at this juncture that is for the Roggofskis): o.k. someone put the moc in democracy but I think it does count for something.

So I think that their policy of waiting to cooperate with Wesley so himself on this is good. I believe that Daniel has some eye trouble just now. Hopefully when that is cleared up they can all talk then work something out.

Of course, it would still be an issue if a little known player complained or somehow altered his or her bio but it would, I hope, be treated much the same. If it was John Smith of London a strong expert and a good fellow, but not famous, it wouldn't attract interest. So of course it is significant that the player is "Number 2" but in general he should be treated much the same.

I noted this, it is true and strange indeed. As far I saw him in the US Champs he seemed pretty unassuming, with a sense of humour, I think he praised one of the opponents he beat, and so on. And he is clearly a very strong player. Perhaps, who knows, "the greatest" if anyone cares. But it seems it [the controversy [sies] doesn't [don't] come from So himself.

I think people get irrationally excited about "their" player. But I know players that are in fact super GMs or were such, and if they were on the up in my country I would not be very interested. But someone who is interesting, and has a sense of humour and so on and one likes (o.k., I don't mean a colourless person and I wouldn't necessarily be "against" a controversial and even quite arrogant or "despicable" or eccentric person as everyone has their quirks): that person I can understand getting excited about.