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Oct-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: < May I call thee Tone?> But of course. Call me anything. Call me Ishmael. Call me, Ishmael. There's a strange character in Irish history named Wolfe Tone - an Enlightenment atheist who failed to start an American-style revolution. He fell on his pen-knife in jail, and became a posthumous hero for Catholics. Which would not have pleased him. But, in those days, nobody knew what to say after the Tone. His female friends kept calling him and getting an engaged Tone. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Annie K.: <But, in those days, nobody knew what to say after the Tone.> And today is different how? :s
Heh... |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <And today is different how?> An innaresting question. I could name stuff that wasn't around 200 years ago -- quantum sushi, Godzilla, Zionist rastas, open source wetware, DNA scramblers, genomes, memomes, and so on. But do they make a *difference*? Hmmmmm. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Annie K.: :) you kinda enlarged the scope of the question there... I was merely wondering whether a person who knows what to say after the Tone exists today, or is such a being merely an urban legend. I'd even be willing to settle for anecdotal evidence here. :s <But do they make a *difference*?> Well, ok, that would be kinda subjective, wouldn't it? I'd say modern medicine makes a difference. Transportation... and maybe the internet. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: We are indeed indebted to the medical-industrial complex. Many things are kinda subjective. Even kinda objective ones, if you look at them from the appropriate angle. But, yes, generally. And thanks.
Incidentally, one person who knows what to say 'after the Tone' is Cherie Blair. And perhaps G.W. Bush too. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Annie K.: Ah - that might explain it. I have never concerned myself with Blaring Tone's private life, and I'm still trying to suppress memories of the Shrubbery Era. ;s <Dom: <We are indeed indebted to the medical-industrial complex.>> In more ways than one, according to the noise from the US quarters, yes. ;) |
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| Oct-22-10 | | theodor: <<achieve>: Good luck, Theodore - you'll come out improved and with an irresistable snap, provided you don't over-extend your visit by as little as a day.
General rule as <dom> said, is to avoid those places if possible. Replenish and formulate an improved lifestyle. Good luck! ;)> achieve, you obviusly like to achever(in the french meaning of the word-to finish!). several times I suggested that I am strugling writing in english, that's why I made this joke with my retirement for two months(I have writen that post more than 2 houers) and, if I dont drink a couple of vodkas, I should never enter in your anonimous world of failed selfish chessplayer, hating genuine people, who can say to you something new, standing his on ground and name, than discussing the place of the queen for the rest of his life! you remind me the primitive komsomol activists! lazzy, stupid, vily. they still are on top - they are the capitalists now! they have monopolized all - even proffessions: from 1986, I am not exercing anymore my profession, no exebition had allowed my drowings, trade marks, posters or architectural projekts! and now, I'm the frogspown! thank you very much! go west!!! you won - congratulationes! this was my last post. happy now? cheers! |
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| Oct-22-10 | | achieve: Huh? Sorry, but there seems to be a multiple misunderstanding here, and I apologize for having any part in that. Meanwhile, you just do what you have to do and stop reaching and insulting me, my intentions, and skip the idiotic comparisons. If I'll go west and you go east we'll end up OK. |
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Oct-22-10
 | | Domdaniel: <theodor> Please don't attack my friends like that, especially when they were trying to wish you well. Priez ne pas deranger. |
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Oct-23-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Russian Jessica> Thank you for the Neil Young clip. Between one thing and another - as I often am - I only just got round to playing it... If I had to pick just one Neil Young album, it'd be On The Beach. Turnstiles, Vampires, that Nixon song ("I never knew a man could tell so many lies, he had a different story for every set of eyes...") In the pre-photoshop 70s this song inspired me to mutilate images of politicians. A young man needs an intellectually stimulating hobby after all. Especially ones with knives. |
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Oct-23-10
 | | chancho: Elvis Costello and the Attractions
Radio Radio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifal... |
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| Oct-23-10 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Dom here's a rockin' good song with some great advice also. ; P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5pu... - Warren Zevon |
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Oct-24-10
 | | Domdaniel: <chancho> Another of my favorite songs - "and the radio is in the hands of such a lot of fools ..." |
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Oct-25-10
 | | Annie K.: <Dom> I like the forum title! ;) |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> Did I mention that you notice everything? I must have done.
You *are* aware that most people are retards by comparison? |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: PS. Think of it as a textual shave ... |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Annie K.: <Dom: <PS. Think of it as a textual shave ...>> That's exactly how I think of it (in several ways, to be sure...) - that's why I like it! ;) <You *are* aware that most people are retards by comparison?> I *try* not to think of that, since it's not a pleasant thought... as I'm sure you know. :) |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: Yup, we're agreed. I rather like humans, for all their little foibles. |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Annie K.: Da. :) Not many of us in this arm of the galaxy, after all, so you take what company you can get. And... they do keep pets, too. |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: Meanwhile, back at Square Two (as we like to call it ... Square One may be done but there are at least 62 to go ...)
... in this arm of the galaxy...
Galactimetaphor Alert! *This* galaxy has *legs* ... uh, you're not made of antimatter, by any chance? Boom boom.
Anyhoo, I've been researching the use, provenance, etymology etc of those curious bits of paper - almost replaced by plastic now - known as checks or cheques. I knew of two slang/argot terms for fraudulent use of same: 'kiting' and 'paper hanging'. What I didn't know is that they're not the same. A kiter never has the funds to back the check, but a paperhanger deposits money after writing the cheque. That's where cultural differences come into play. It's illegal almost everywhere, but paper hanging is a minor misdemeanour in Ireland and almost a hanging offence in France. I am *not*, btw, planning any criminal activity. I'm trying to find out how much trouble an ... associate ... of mine might be in. Long story. I'll file it with the other long stories and call it a novel, some fine day. But I was intrigued to learn that all the uses of check/cheque in English originate with chess. Check and checkmate - from Shah mat - came first; then extended into general use such as 'the advance of the horde was checked by the soldiers' ... and so on. <check>
<early 14c., "A call in chess noting one's move has placed his opponent's king in immediate peril," from O.Fr. eschequier "a check at chess" (also "chess board, chess set"), from eschec, from V.L. *scaccus, from Arabic shah, from Pers. shah "king," the principal piece in a chess game (see shah; also cf. checkmate). When the king is in check a player's choices are limited. Meaning widened from chess to general sense of "adverse event" (c.1300), "sudden stoppage" (early 14c.), and by c.1700 to "a token used to check against loss or theft" (surviving in hat check) and "a check against forgery or alteration," which gave the modern financial use of "bank check, money draft" (first recorded 1798 and often spelled cheque), probably influenced by exchequeur. Meaning "pattern of squares" (c.1400) is short for checker. Checking account is attested from 1923, Amer.Eng.> So, uh, chess is responsible for, like, *economics*?
It makes me feel slightly unclean, like a pure mathematician informed that his equations have RL applications. And, while economics may derive a few words from chess, it takes its actual rules from *poker*. |
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| Oct-26-10 | | dakgootje: <And, while economics may derive a few words from chess, it takes its actual rules from *poker*.> Is there any chance of ever getting clean for those of us both playing chess and poker?! |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: I know I used the word 'unclean' first, but it gives me an opportunity to say how much I dislike the current vogue for saying 'clean' to mean 'abstaining from drink/drugs/mammalian intercourse/paying the stupidity tax, etc'. It implies that those of us not currently abstaining are *dirty*. And probably staining the carpet. <dak> To answer your question: no. None whatsoever. I actually got back into chess in 2006 via poker ... chapter 4n+1 in the aforementioned long story ... Actually, this would be a good time to do some work on that ... autobiography of a stick insect ... song from under the floorboards ... or metapeta starburst of cosmic somethingness with the answer to it all relegated to a footnote. A *footnote*? I'm sorry, I have no idea what you mean. My footman handles those details. Now excuse me, I've kept the butler waiting long enough and you know how difficult it is to find capable staff. No, Teal'c, you may *not* fire your staff weapon in Jaffa. I don't care how small the war is or how many aliens live there. |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: Only connect.
Only the lonely.
Simply the pimply.
Pimp my titanium geranium.
Domestic Data, Dictionary Dreams
An Amateur God in a Professional Universe.
[titles, bad titles....] |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Annie K.: <Dom: <uh, you're not made of antimatter, by any chance?>> It doesn't matter...
<It makes me feel slightly unclean, like a pure mathematician informed that his equations have RL applications.> Heh - and that's called a reality check.
<[titles, bad titles....]> The last one is not half bad! :)
PS - some ways of staining the carpet *are* better than others. :p |
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Oct-26-10
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> - <reality check>
Indeed. I seem to be coming back to life. I just opened my email and saw that I'd sent no messages in the past six weeks - that hasn't happened since, oh, must be the early 1990s. Very strange feeling. Ah, a feeling. Yep, I'm on the way back. I *will* be in touch. Approximate quote from a Michael Moorcock novel -- approximate 'cos I last read it long before the early 1990s or even 80s ... "You're coming to pieces all over the carpet. And you used to be such a nice young man too." It's one of the Jerry Cornelius books: The Final Program, A Cure for Cancer, The English Assassin. I think actually looking for it might be a tad obsessive/displacementish, even by my rather dubious standards. It's hard not to drown in resonances, these days. But *le tete* is above *l'eau*, sans doute. I'd do a French smiley -- qui rire, vivre -- if I knew how. Inspector Smiley of the Yard. |
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