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Feb-01-11
 | | Open Defence: <It works like homophobia> too bad, I always thought this forum could use a queer eye for the kibitzing guy.... |
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Feb-01-11
 | | Annie K.: <I used to play 1.c4 e5 as both colors ... does that count?> Ifinkso... :)
Oh, speaking of the English... I had a recent game that transposed into an English Symmetrical. Now, I don't really know how to play against the English - it's pretty rare. Seems the guy playing it didn't actually know how to play it either, though... :p Here iz:
[Event "FICS rated blitz game"]
[Date "2011.02.01"]
[White "NN"]
[Black "AnnieK"]
[WhiteElo "1297"]
[BlackElo "1548"]
[TimeControl "600+0"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e3 e5 2. c4 c5 3. a3 Nc6 4. Nc3 Nf6 5. d3 d5 6. Be2 d4 7. exd4 cxd4 8. Nb1 Qa5+ 9. Qd2 Bb4 (White resigns) 0-1 Oh, and I set a new record blitz rating yesterday, at 1571. :) ♘e5! |
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Feb-02-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Annie> Ouch. But 1.e3 is technically a Van't Kruijs ... and I once won a slightly longer game with it, 12 moves as White. I've also won longer games with a Reverse Hedgehog, a3-c4-d3-e3 etc, like here. Sometimes you can just keep solidifying, slowly pushing the pawn wall forward. In theory, anyhoo. Haven't tried it recently. Your, um, macho approach is quite proper for Black. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <Deffi> You don't like my mascara? Hmph. One of these days I'll replace the Eye avtaar with a close-up of my own myopic bloodshot bleary ocular organ of sight. Then I might get some respect for my grey hairs. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: "Where is Beatles Band?" is one of the great catchphrases that never caught on. Sometime in the punk 1970s, the ultra-cool New Musical Express published a letter -- in a kind of pidgin English, purporting to come from Africa, but almost certainly made up by some clever young thing in 'Ackney. The writer had apparently just discovered the Beatles - about ten years after they broke up, and still somehow 'uncool' to Sex Pistols fans. Old hippies, wasn't they? Anyhoo, "Where is Beatles Band?" is a good question. I still ask it myself regularly. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | crawfb5: <I've heard there's now a device used in American chess tournaments, which lets you enter moves on a screen rather than keep a written score. Haven't seen 'em here yet.> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MonRoi
http://monroi.com/products/personal... I've not seen one either, but it's been a long time since I played in an OTB event. It's essentially a chess-specific gimzo similar in size and function to a PDA. You use a stylus to tap in moves on a displayed chessboard and it keeps a running game score with moves timestamped. Apparently in tournaments where organizers provide these devices they can then have all of the games tracked in progress. In theory, these could be very useful for young kids who often have problems keeping an accurate scoresheet, but I think the widget is somewhat expensive. Back in the day of pen and paper, it mattered not whether you wrote down your move before or after you made it on the board. As this device is graphics based, recording the move <before> you make it on the actual game board shows you the position, so there was a minor dustup in the US over the legitimacy of recording the move <before> it is made. I don't recall how that sorted out. I suspect price has kept these things relatively rare in amateur events, so it probably was much ado about not much. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | dakgootje: I used to have some old score-sheets which turned out to be fairly unreadable and missing moves as well. Moreover the reconstructed games were not all that brilliant. Over the years my hand-writing improved and I don't forget to write moves down anymore either. The games themselves still are not all that brilliant. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <crawf> Innaresting. I can see how they might be useful, especially if provided by the organizers and linked to the web. No need for sensory boards to track games in progress. My understanding of the when-to-write-a-move question is that 'They' have outlawed the practice of writing the move first. It used to be recommended by books and coaches as a way of giving yourself a chance to avoid a blunder. Although Fischer famously got it wrong against Tal, by writing down a strong move, having a sudden paranoid delusion that Tal was laughing at him, and playing a losing move instead. My Frog proclivities once, briefly, went so far as to write down moves in French: 1.Cf3 Cf6 2.g3 g6 3.Fg2 ... usually reverting to English as time ran short. I also have too many incomplete scores - games that were finished in blitz mode. I guess one should try to reconstruct these immediately afterwards, but it isn't always the first priority. |
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| Feb-02-11 | | hms123: <Dom> I deleted myself, but with comment. I occasionally make an exception. I assume you saw the earlier post at this point. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Open Defence: <Domdaniel: <Deffi> You don't like my mascara? Hmph. One of these days I'll replace the Eye avtaar with a close-up of my own myopic bloodshot bleary ocular organ of sight. Then I might get some respect for my grey hairs.> that was the queer eye I was referring to, but i did like this forum better in its risque days when cg would lock you in all alone and throw away the key :) hehehe |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <deffi> hehehe indeed ... happy times, when I was the one making nuisance. Now I'm the grumpy old fart with a growing Iggy list. I keep feeling I'm *missing* something, no matter how cretinous. The Eye is eye-ronic, I s'pose. It gets eerie in my eyrie in eire. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Open Defence: <I keep feeling I'm *missing* something, no matter how cretinous.> what use is the I if it can't sea? |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: <Your, um, macho approach is quite proper for Black.> Macho? Heh!
<Then I might get some respect for my grey hairs.> Nah. Forget it. I have <white> hairs. ;p <I keep feeling I'm *missing* something, no matter how cretinous.> It takes some getting used to. :) |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: Are you people *innerleckshuals*? Yikes. OMG. What sort of company have I been keeping? *reaches for Iggy list*
I long ago put myself on my *favorites* list, btw. Not just because I love myself madly, though there is that. No, it was mainly so that my posts could enjoy the same golden glow that all you regular types already have. And it makes it easier to spot lemmings. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: Outerleckshuals.
Of course, it's simply useful to have yourself on t'fave list. I opted for <peach>, myself. :) |
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| Feb-02-11 | | technical draw: Speaking of intellectuals: <Flash from last year!> <Jan-04-10
Open Defence chessforum
technical draw: Hmmm, intelectuals moving away from <Domdaniel> and <JFQ> and finding a haven in OD's forum. Maybe I'll flex my intellectual muscles one day and surprise all with with my brilliant thinking. But not today.> So I have the copyright, uh, rights to the use of the word intellectuals. (I'll let you use innerlectuals) |
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Feb-02-11
| | Open Defence: it got interesting in the middle, but it always looked drawn I guess.... I thought White could have got some advantage in the opening if he went for an early f4 but was hoping for more active play against his King in that line, but he played a bit safe... Im playing Black
[Event "Nec recisa recedit"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2011.02.02"]
[Round "-"]
[White "epicuro"]
[Black "weaponofchoice"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2404"]
[BlackElo "2323"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Nbd7 11. g3 Rg8 12. h4 Rxg5 13. hxg5 Nd5 14. g6 fxg6 15. Qg4 Qe7 16. Qxg6+ Qf7 17. Qxf7+ Kxf7 18. Bg2 Rb8 19. Ne4 Be7 20. O-O-O Nf8 21. Kd2 a5 22. Rh8 Ba6 23. Kc1 Nb4 24. Kb1 Rd8 25. Rh5 Kg6 26. Rh8 Kg7 27. Rh5 Nd3 28. f4 b4 29. Bf3 c3 30. bxc3 bxc3 31. Nxc3 Rxd4 32. Ne4 c5 33. Nd6 Rb4+ 34. Ka1 Rb6 35. Ne8+ Kf7 36. Nd6+ Bxd6 37. exd6 c4 38. Rxa5 Rxd6 39. Kb1 Ng6 40. f5 Nge5 41. fxe6+ Ke7 42. Bd5 Ng4 43. Rh1 Nf6 44. Rxa6 Rxa6 1/2-1/2 |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <Deffi> You have a *rating* of *2323*? Icosatriphiliac heaven. I useta use it as a PIN number, but it got too obvious. It's also 300 points higher than my best one, so that gets a certain respect too. You might suggest the (Semi-)Slav to the World team as an, um, weapon of choice. Lots of juicy theory, hand to hand fighting, and draws. Ideal. And a remarkable number of world-famous games have been played in this line. I've never tried it as a Black defence, but I like to watch it go. Black's compensation for odd pawns or exchange sacs has a weirdness that reminds me of the Winawer. Me, I think White's 2.c4 is premature. Or it's OK, but then 1.d4 is too committal. Lots of good waiting moves available before White has to commit to anything as crucial as a pawn structure. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: <Deffi> very nice game! OK, now I wanna show off some cc game too. :p
But I haven't played anything recently in cc, so here's a cute French from a ChessWorld tournament from 2009... ;) [Event "www.ChessWorld.net server game"]
[Site "www.ChessWorld.net "]
[Date "2009.9.15"]
[White "Annie_K"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Termination "Black resigned"]
[WhiteElo "2268"]
[BlackElo "2038"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[ECO "C02"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Qb6 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.a3 cxd4 7.cxd4 f6 8.Bd3 Bd7 9.b4 a6 10.O-O f5 11.Be3 h6 12.Nc3 Nge7 13.Na4 Qc7 14.Nc5 O-O-O 15.b5 axb5 16.Bxb5 g5 17.Bxg5 Kb8 18.Rb1 Re8 19.Bxc6 Bxc6 20.Na6+ 1-0 Note - ChessWorld ratings are, IMO, inflated. My ~2250 rating there should be roughly equal to my ~2050 rating at QueenAlice, and somewhere around an 1850-1950 rating at GameKnot (where I actually had a rating of 1800 when I played there, but that was years ago, and I probably <have> improved some since). |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: Oh, and so that game is terrible. ;p
But here's a funny line I had, in case the B sac was accepted: 17.Bxg5 hxg5 18.Nxg5 Rg8 19.Nf7 Re8 20.Nd6+ Kd8 21.Ncxb7+ |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <Annie> Owwwch. And this delicate piece of cutlery turned up its little prongs - okay, its tines - in a *correspondence* game? Erm. Nowt 'terrible' bout it, lass. I don't think Black actually understood the French very well, though. First hint of this being ...Qb6 followed by ...Nc6, returning to the mainline. The idea of playing ...Qb6 first generally being the Wade Variation, with ...Bd7-b5. Doing it t'other way is either a super-subtle psychological ploy, or somebody following the coloured columns in a database. And I don't like that early ...f6. I like it even less when ...f5 follows soon after, though I've sometimes been driven to such extremes myself. The notion of a frontal assault on the pawn chain is currently fashionable, but it needs to be handled with care. Here's an example of a careless one. You've probably seen it, but it's one of the very few recorded games in history to reach your position after 9.b4. And then it ends, rather abruptly. I think Black, having carefully played ...Bd7 to guard his King against checks from b5, forgot that ...f6 opens up the other side. [Event "Le Touquet"]
[Site "FRA"]
[Date "2000.10.28"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Laval, Brice"]
[Black "Milliot, Vincent"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C02"]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 cxd4 7.cxd4 f6 8.Bd3 Bd7 9.b4 Nxd4 10.Nxd4 Qxd4 11.Bg6+ 1-0 
click for larger viewC'est formidable, non?
Non. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: OMG - I just DID that, right now!
I normally wouldn't have played Bd3, but I just remembered the game I posted here and... [Event "FICS rated blitz game"]
[Date "2011.02.03"]
[Time "01:41:38"]
[White "AnnieK"]
[Black "NN"]
[WhiteElo "1536"]
[BlackElo "1446"]
[TimeControl "600+0"]
[Mode "ICS"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 cxd4 6. cxd4 Qb6 7. a3 Bd7 8. b4 f6 9. Bd3 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Qxd4 11. Bg6+ hxg6 12. Qxd4 fxe5 13. Qxe5 Nf6 14. Nc3 Rc8 15. Bb2 Rc6 16. Qb8+ Kf7 17. Qxa7 d4 18. Qxd4 Bd6 19. g3 e5 20. Qd1 Bh3 21. Qf3 Ke6 22. Ne4 Bg4 23. Qb3+ Ke7 24. Nxd6 Rxd6 25. O-O Be6 26. Qe3 Ng4 27. Qg5+ Kf7 28. h4 Bf5 29. Rad1 Rc6 30. f3 (Black resigns) 1-0 |
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: ...played on for a bit, too, yeah. Heh.
And that game was <before> I saw your post - but I was thinking about that trap while reviewing my game too... :) Re. online corr, yeah, some people treat it as corr, and other people can treat it as... anything from classical to blitz. :s Usually there are players who play only a few - 1 to 15, say - games at a time, and take their research seriously. Then there are others who literally play hundreds at a time, and just blitz their moves. |
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Feb-02-11
| | Domdaniel: <Advances, contd.>
Right, back to the main item. I don't actually see anything terribly wrong with your Bish offer on g5 ... and the line where you mate the Queen with both Knights is exquis, tres Nimzoesque ... but it bewilders me. It seems ... unnecessary.By move 16 in your game, White is so much better, It's ridiculous. The Black King is in deep doo-doo, and liable to succumb to a frontal assault after moves like Qa4 or Rb1. Yeah, 17.Rb1 - as you played a bit later - seems totally winning. The Black kingside pawns can basically be ignored. They're harmless. Let him play ...g4 or ...f4 and move a piece aside, if necessary. I'm not sure why 17.Bxg5!? seemed necessary, and not sure why Black refused it. And not sure why, when he did refuse it, you didn't play Bf6 to annoy him. But of course Rb1 wins at more or less any time. There *is* a tricky variation I saw, where Black gets to play one of the few good tactics available in this kind of position. It turns up in your sideline: 17.Bxg5 hxg5 18.Nxg5 ... and now you have Black meekly playing ...Rg8. Um, why would he do that when you've helpfully opened the h-file? And he can explode the centre with 18...Nxe5! ...? *Very* tricky, this stuff. I've even gone over it with t'engine mill, and I'm still not sure. Problem is, say, 18.Nxg5 Nxe5 19.Nxd7 Nxd7 and Black is actually threatening ...Qxh2#. Which would be a case of the scupperer scuppered. I dunno. 20.Rc1 Nc6 doesn't hold him up for long. You may have to play 20.h3, and Fritz actually thinks White is a little better. But White was a lot better, before. There are several other choices after 18...Nxe5, but none look very appetizing. I'm not being critical or nothin'. Just upholding the honour of the French. It's not a *completely* pointless opening. Black has threats which can erupt rather unexpectedly. My favorite example of the ...Nxe5 motif is a Vaganian classic, Reshevsky vs Vaganian, 1976 Not yer actual Advance Variation, but close enough. Sammy's bizarre King stroll was apparently 'theory' ... until this game. No wonder Fischer thought the Russians sprinkled their chess publications with bad moves, to fool stupid capitalist dupes into copying them. So Bobby went through every Russian line twice. In biro. After 17.Rb1, btw, I'd expect mebbe 17...g4 18.Nh4 (18.Nd2 f4 could be a problem) ... and White just carries on with the mating attack. I've thrown enough hopeless pawns at White Kings to know when they ain't going nowhere. Unless I'm wrong, of course.
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Feb-02-11
| | Annie K.: OK, I have to check that... ;) |
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