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|Jan-10-07|| ||NotABanker: I saw it in a few seconds... it was my first guess.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Total Blunder: Happy to solve it too!|
|Jan-10-07|| ||AdrianP: Pleased to have seen the whole thing quite quickly, including the picking up of the bishop at the end.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||e4knightf3: "no comment" (i.o.w. too easy)|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Karpova: Got it. Pretty game!|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Tacticstudent: wow, quite too easy. I think that this is a puzzle for Monday, not Wednesday.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||alphee: I was so focusing on the threat on g2 that I missed it ... :-(|
|Jan-10-07|| ||jmelton: <Fisheremon: 25...Kg8 (you had to look at <chessmoron> too) 26. Qf6 Kf8 27. Re2! Ra1+ 28. Bxa1 Qc5+ 29. Kf1 Qc1+ 30.Re1 Bxg2+ 31.Kf2 and a forced nate.>|
25...Kg8 26.Qf8 is mate.
|Jan-10-07|| ||mikejaqua: Wow. I actually got the whole combination.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Tomlinsky: If 19...Rc2 Tartakower would likely have been facing defeat. His play on preceding moves gave Przepiorka a missed opportunity for the win.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Fisheremon: <jmelton: <Fisheremon: 25...Kg8 (you had to look at <chessmoron> too) 26. Qf6 Kf8 27. Re2! Ra1+ 28. Bxa1 Qc5+ 29. Kf1 Qc1+ 30.Re1 Bxg2+ 31.Kf2 and a forced nate.>|
25...Kg8 26.Qf8 is mate.> It's variation 25.Bb2+, if 25...Kg8 Qf8+, then 26.Kxf8
|Jan-10-07|| ||TrueBlue: this should have been Monday puzzle, way too obvious, even for me :)|
|Jan-10-07|| ||YouRang: A little easier than one expects for a Wednesday perhaps. A fairly straight-forward decoy to push the king into a K+Q rook fork.|
Of course, black cannot decline the bishop: 25...Kg8 (or Kh8) 26. Qf8#; or 25...Kg6 26. Qg5#
|Jan-10-07|| ||alphee: In the News in Chess DB and the ChessBase one, this game finishes with 25.h6+ and black resign. Where do the other moves come from?|
|Jan-10-07|| ||nimzo knight: Too easy for Wed. First move is often obvious. But the fact that black had no good defences made it easier.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||kevin86: I answered this one 100% even picking up the bishop at the end. It looked a little easy for a midweek puzzle-almost like a Tuesday puzzle. The bishop must be accepted as declining it leads to immediate mate.|
Notice how white TOTALLY dominates the dark colored squares with the queen and bishop. Black pieces offer NO aid or comfort to the castled king.
|Jan-10-07|| ||mckmck: Got it all the move sequence.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||malvolio: lepo, can you explain the variation of Bb2 being better, because that was my first impulse but I kind of stopped thinking it through after 3 moves, ty.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Themofro: Not that hard for a Wednesday indeed, but still a nice combination. Just as a note, Tartakower probably first saw it all the way back on move 21 when he played Qe7.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||haha: Saw that move, but didn't see it deep eoungh|
|Jan-10-07|| ||greensfield: Quite straight forward. 25. Bh6+ Kxh6 (25...Kg8 26. Qf8#) (25...Kh8 26. Qf8#) 26. Qf6+ Kh5 27. Rxf5+ Qxf5 (27... Kg4 28. Qg5#) 28. Qxf5+ Kh6 29. Qf6+ Kh5 30. Qxc6 winning for white(30. Qxf7 winning for white) But did not consider 25. Bb2! so not quite straight forward.|
|Jan-10-07|| ||Black Vampire: Chessgames, can be considered solved the puzzle if the given line starts with 25.Bh6+? The reason of my question is that kibitzers have to choose the best move, and not any winning line, according to the principles of the Daily Chess Puzzle written by chessgames.com. Then the correct move is 25.Bb2+!. In fact, this means this puzzle is not for Monday, which is the opinion of some kibitzers, but for Thursday or even Friday, I think.
Please answer my question. Bye and thanks.
|Jan-10-07|| ||NateDawg: <<Black Vampire> kibitzers have to choose the best move, and not any winning line... then the correct move is 25.Bb2+!>|
While you may be right that 25.Bb2+! is the "best" move in this position, I believe that the actual goal of the Chessgames puzzles is to find a move that leads to a different (and of course better) evaluation than would be achieved if any other move were played (for example, a draw instead of a loss or a win instead of a draw). Therefore, there should only be one solution. This is similar to the Nunn Convention in endgames (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunn_C...) in that only one move is truly correct.
This puzzle is perhaps inaccurate, then, in the sense that it seemingly has two solutions, 25.♗h6+! and 25.♗b2+!, since these two moves both result in winning positions for White, while any other move would result in a lost or drawn position. When this happens (and it occasionally does), it is my understanding that both solutions are correct, since they both result in clearly winning positions. I say that they are both correct because it doesn't really matter if a computer evaluates the position as +14.00 or +6.00, as in either case White should win quite easily.
In case anyone is wondering, the other solution to which Black Vampire refers is 25.♗b2+! ♔g8 (or 25...♖d4 26.♕g5+ ♔f8 27.♗a3+ and Black must sac his queen with 27...♕c5) 26.♕f6 ♔f8 27.♖e2 and the threat of 28.♕g7# or 28.♕h8# forces Black to give up material with 27...♖e4 28.♗a3+ ♔e8 29.♖xe4+! ♔d7 (29...fxe4? 30.♕e7#) 30.♖d4 and White is up a queen.
By the way, kudos to any kibitzers who found the more difficult (but not more winning ;)) solution, 25.♗b2+!
|Jan-10-07|| ||Grampmaster: At first I thought 25.Qg5+ and if 25...Kh8 then 26.Bb2+ forcing mate. But I could find no winning answer for 25...Kf8. |
That's when I started looking at the forcing sacrifice combination of 25.Bh6+ that leads to the White rook fork of Black's king and queen followed by the capture of Black's suddenly loose bishop.
This was a nice Wednesday puzzle.
|Feb-21-15|| ||Chessdreamer: Black resigned after <25.Bh6+> acc. Tartakower's book "My Best Games of Chess 1905-1954". the other moves are analysis.|
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