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Vladimir Bagirov vs Karen Ashotovich Grigorian
"Cat's Out of the Bagirov" (game of the day Sep-01-2008)
URS (1976)
Nimzo-Larsen Attack: Indian Variation (A01)  ·  1-0


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May-08-04  RayFchess: Wow, ok you got me too. I also saw g4, but you're right, it only gets white back to even, even though I thought white had a slightly better end game after that. White has to be careful that the black queenside pawns don't break through. This is the first one I didn't see in about a month. I think it is one of the most subtle moves I have ever seen.
Jul-06-04  duboy77: what happens if 22. ... bxc4
Jul-06-04  duboy77: OH... now I see. The threat of the rook on e7 and the win of the exhchange on g8 if the rook moves to protect.
Feb-22-05  aw1988: Oh, that is absolutely terrible.
Feb-23-05  Saruman: <duboy77> Actually the variation could have gone as follows; 22.-bxc4? 23.♖e7 ♖g8 24.♗xg8 ♕xg8 25.♖e8! [I/II]

I)25.-♗b7? (25.-♕xe8?? 26.♖xe8#) 26.♖xb8! (the tricky point) ♕xb8 27.♖e7 ♕f8 28.♖xb7 .

II) 25.-♗f5 26.♖xg8+ ♔xg8 27.♖e7 .

Note; other moves than 25.-♗f5 are possible although they may not hinder great loss of material.

Feb-24-05  Saruman: It is incredible that Bagirov is able to create such a powerful zugzwang with so many pieces left on the board.
Mar-26-05  aw1988: Black has only two moves in the final position: if he plays c3, white plays a3, if he plays a3, white plays c3. Ouch!
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  patzer2: Bagirov's 22. Rae1!! offers the Knight as part of a combination to overwhelm Black's weakened castled position. Here's some analysis with Fritz 8:

<22. Rae1!! Qf6> This move is practically forced, as other options lose quickly (22... bxc4?? 23. Re7 ; 22... b4 23. Qb2 ). <23. Qxf6 Rxf6 24. Re8+! Nxe8 25. Rxe8+ Kg7 26. Rg8+! Kh6 27. Ne3 a5> No help for Black is 27... b4 28. h4 Rf5 (28... c4 29. Kf2 c3 30. Bf3 Rb5 ) 29. Kf2 Rxd5 30. Nxd5 Ra8 31. Nc7 Rb8 32. g4 Bxg4 33. Rxb8 . <28. h4! a4 29. Kf2> Perhaps even stronger is 29. Bf3! Rf7 30. g4! 1 Bxg4 31. Nxg4+ Kh5 32. Rxb8 . <29... c4 30. b4! 1-0> Black resigned in the face of this strong zugzwang move, but play might have continued 30...c3 31. Bf3 Rf7 32. g4 .

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  An Englishman: Good Evening: This is an amazing Zugzwang.
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  Phony Benoni: Looks more like a case of the cat being unable to get out of the bag.
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  sleepyirv: It isn't really the Zugzwang (Black still has a few moves), but the fact White is about to mate Black or Black loses in material.
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  al wazir: White had the final Zugzwang position in mind several moves earlier -- else he would have played 28. Ng4, which ensures material equality.
Sep-01-08  erimiro1: Bagirov follows Nimzowitch! Samisch vs Nimzowitsch, 1923 . Zugzwang is one piece of art, and I like this concept more than many amazing sac combinations.
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  maxi: Wasn't this a correspondence game?
Sep-01-08  backyard pawn: This is a remarkable position. I can't stop looking at it. Beautiful.
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  Jack Kerouac: Now Karen as a Russian name is male I take it: though I might expect Karin is the more familiar version. And don't forget to read 'The Subterraneans' between training sessions;)
Sep-01-08  CrystalFrost: Bagirov simply blocked each of his choices one by one Seems to be that he foresaw it way before the end
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  Once: I'm confused. It seems that the position after 30. c4 was a Saturday puzzle back in May 2004.

But Fritz 11 finds at least four winning lines from that position:

30. bxa4 bxa4 31. g4 Rxf4+ 32. Kg3 Rxg3+ loses a shedload of material or 32. ... Rf6? 33. g5+ Kh5 34. Rh8 and black has no real defence to the threat of Rxh7#.

30. bxc4 bxc4 31. g4 then continue as above.

30. g4 Rxf4+ then continue as above.

30. b4 (as played in the game)

Stunning zugwang, but it seems that it was not the only way to win.

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  al wazir: <Jack Kerouac: Now Karen as a Russian name is male I take it>

Grigorian is Armenian.

Sep-01-08  apple pi: Beautiful - amongst the most perfect zugzwangs ever - on the level of Saemisch - Nimzowitsch immortal game!
Sep-01-08  Davolni: Bagirov must have been a strong player back then, because Karen Grigorian was doing fine those years I think, draws with Spassky, Petrosian, nice wins over Tal...

interesting zugzwang indeed!!!

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  kevin86: Rare is it,in an open game that black has ten pieces and ZERO good moves.

Most zugzwang situations happen in endings or very cramped positions.Here is a very rare exception.

Sep-03-08  symmer17: This position is beautiful. That takes amazing ability to see that on the board,
Apr-10-14  Sihlous: Great game...As mentioned above this is up there with the "Immortal Zugzwang Game" of Nimzo's.
Mar-15-15  kamagong24: great game!
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