chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Eugenio Torre vs James Tarjan
"Me Tarjan, Eugene!" (game of the day Oct-27-2004)
First Lady Cup 2nd (1983), Indonesia, rd 16, Dec-04
Queen Pawn Game: Zukertort Variation (D02)  ·  1/2-1/2
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

NOTE: You are using our new chess viewer, "Olga." For more info see the Olga Quickstart Guide. You can switch back to the old viewer (pgn4web) from the pulldown menu below. If you have questions or suggestions see our Olga chessforum.

explore this opening
find similar games 1 more E Torre/Tarjan game
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: To see the raw PGN for this game, click on the PGN: view link above.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Sep-27-03  cheelay: "Me Tarjan, Eugene!" That's a classic!
Sep-27-03
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: I think that Mr. Torre coughed this one up;he had a two pawn advantage-passed pawns at that.I think Steinbrenner should fire him----oops,wrong Torre!
Sep-28-03  AgentRgent: When a game is played this well, it's not bad that it ends in a draw.. good fighting spirit from both players.
Oct-27-04  drchess9999: I guess even after 68.Kc6 black can draw easily by just swaping the knight for the pawn after white takes b6....
Oct-27-04  PivotalAnorak: ROFL Great pun ! And good defence by Black. An active King saves the day !
Oct-27-04  AgentRgent: <PivotalAnorak: ROFL Great pun !> Thank you.
Oct-27-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  cu8sfan: <AgentRgent> So did you suggest this pun to cg.com? I think it's hilarious!
Oct-27-04  AgentRgent: Yes I did, last September. I guess some good Games of the Day get recycled. ;-)
Oct-27-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: I thought perhaps 55. g4!? might give White winning chances, but in playing it out with Fritz 8, there appears to be an amazing defensive resource for Black.

55. g4!? Ne4 56. Kg2 Ne4 57. Kf3 Nf6 58. g5 Ne8 59. Kf4 Kd6 60. Kf5 Ke7 61. Kg6 Kf8 62. Kh7 Nc7 63. g6 Ne8 64. Be2 Ng7 65. Kh8 b6 and now Black's Knight repeatedly hops from e8 to g7 to h5. And now, despite Fritz's optimistic +2.78 assessment, I don't see how White can stop the game from ending in a long draw by repetition.

Maybe someone can find a win in this White to move position (66.?):

White: Pawns on b3 and g6, Bishop on e2, King on h8.

Black: Pawn on b6, Knight on g7, King on f8.

Note: Fritz assesses 66. Bf1 as +2.78 @ 29 depth & 1348kN/s. However, it looks like a draw to my poor wood pushing brain, version 1 (MOWPB-1).

Oct-27-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: Note the above post:thirteen months to the day-and today the jinxed BoSox will have their day,Also,Torre's Yankees DID cough the ALCS up--but I don't think Torre should be fired.

Super double pun!!

Oct-27-04  ragnar0C: didnt white have that game, i mean pawns and king next to the black pawn??? why draw?
Nov-01-04
Premium Chessgames Member
  patzer2: <ragnarOC> Where do you think White had the win? What move did he miss?
Jan-18-17  Smothered Mate: ​
Since all relevant mates are less than 50 moves after the latest [capture or pawn-move] which was _not_ after the relevant move, the 50-move rule does not affect anything in this post. ​





After ​ 52. Be6+ , ​ black has 4 legal moves: ​



Kd8 and Ke8 both allow Rh8#.
Kc6 allows d7 with an eval above [+15].

Kxb6 (played) is a Lomonosov-tablebase
loss for black, as I explain below.



Black has five legal 53's; they all allow Rxb6.
​Regardless of which of them black chooses, ​
after ​ 54. Rxb6 , ​ Ne2 is black's only check, and if that ​
then Bxe2 is legal and leaves a 7-piece position that ​
the Lomonosov tablebases say is a win-for-white in at most 16. ​
If black's 54 is neither that nor Kxb6, then regardless of what ​
else it is, Rxb7 is legal and leaves a 7-piece position that the ​
Lomonosov tablebases say is a win-for-white in at most 25. ​
Finally, ​ 54. ... Kxb6 ​ (played) leaves a 7-piece position that ​
the Lomonosov tablebases say is a win-for-white in 33. ​




After ​ 54. ... Kxb6 ​ (played), white has exactly two ​
winning moves: ​ ​ ​ Kf2 (played), and g4, which wins faster.

One optimal line is ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ 55. g4! Ne4 ​ 56. Kg2 Kc5 ​ 57. Kf3 Nf6 ​
58. g5 Ne8 ​ 59. Kf4 Kd6 ​ 60. Kf5 Ke7 ​ 61. Ke5! ​ ​ ​ .

After all but the last ply of that, patzer2's
61. Kg6 ​ still wins, but is 4 moves slower.

That's all about white's unique-best 55, which is g4. ​
What white _played_ was the only
​other winning move, ​ ​ ​ 55. Kf2 ​ . ​


56. Ke3 ​ (played) was the only winning move.

58. b4 ​ lets black draw.
​The winning moves were Kd3 and Kd4.

58. ... Ke5 ​ (played) was the only drawing move. ​
60. ... Nf6 ​ loses. ​ ​ ​ The drawing moves were Nd6,Ng5,Nf2+. ​
61. Bc6 ​ (played) was the only winning move.

63. Kc3 ​ lets black draw. ​ ​ ​ Bc6 allows Kd6 ​
repeating the position from 4 ply before that,
​and Kc4 was the only other winning move.

63. ... Ne8 ​ (played) was the only drawing move.

Black had plenty of ways to keep the draw on black's ​
66 and 67, and played one of them both times.
​66. ... Kxg5 ​ and 67. ... Nxg5 ​ are other drawing moves, ​
and 6-piece tablebases confirm that those two each draw.

6-piece tablebases also say that ​ 68. ... Kxg5 ​ (played) draws ​
and that the draw remained for the short rest of the game.

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.


NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
me tarjan,eugene!
from kevin86's favorite games part 2 by kevin86
October 27: Me Tarjan, Eugene!
from Game of the Day 2004 by Phony Benoni
44...Nc3!? and Black escapes with a draw
from End game tactics by Jaredfchess
The Best of Tarjan & Schiffers
by Garre
Bishop + 2 pawns vs. knight + pawn
from Instructive chess endgames I by wwall
"Me Tarjan, Eugene!"
from Games of the day by Herkus
Round 16
from Indonesia 1983 by Chessdreamer
44...Nc3!? and Black escapes with a draw
from End game tactics by nakul1964
October 27: Me Tarjan, Eugene!
from Game of the Day 2004 by Jaredfchess
44...Nc3!? and Black escapes with a draw
from End game tactics by patzer2
44...Nc3!? and Black escapes with a draw
from End game tactics by nakul1964


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2017, Chessgames Services LLC