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Feb-03-10 | | donehung: IMO a brilliant game by ivanov. Sacs a pawn for a passer and initiative, sacs a bishop to threaten mate, and then in the end sacs a rook to promote said passer. Very instructive. |
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May-02-10 | | ruelas007: Really good pun and even better game, I wish there were more GOTD like this one |
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May-02-10 | | SamAtoms1980: Best pun ever? |
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May-02-10 | | BobCrisp: No, because it's not sufficiently game specific. |
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May-02-10 | | ounos: 16. Bh7, 17. Bxg7 nicely created a series of tactical tricks based on the exposed position of the king. |
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May-02-10 | | ounos: It's also nice to see how 32. ...Rf7 goes down (33. Rxh7+ Qxh7 34. Qxf7) |
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May-02-10 | | JonathanJ: somehow it is game specific, he was really going for it in the opening. |
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May-02-10 | | thegoodanarchist: Ivanov was <notyetaGM> when he played this game, but defeated a grandmaster. |
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May-02-10 | | goodevans: <SamAtoms1980: Best pun ever?> <BobCrisp: No, because it's not sufficiently game specific.> Miles had a pretty good record against the English but that still included a few dozen losses. I like the pun myself (and the game) but there would be a number of players who could claim to have been able to "c4 Miles" so I guess <BobCrisp> is right. |
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May-02-10 | | ROO.BOOKAROO: This is a superb game, and different from the run-of -the-mill English game. White jettisons his four minor pieces to clear the way to the Black King, and launches an attack with his Queen and two rooks, winning thanks to the unstoppable c6 pawn. A classic of some kind for English-opening players. |
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May-02-10
 | | bright1: Instead of 30. Rf4-Rh4 doesn't 30. Rf4-f7 with the threat of mate on h7 win quicker? Black can give up his Queen for a rook by Qb2-g7 to stop the mate but that leaves white with a big advantage. |
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May-02-10 | | goodevans: <18 c5> certainly set the cat among the pigeons and after <18 ... Bxe4 19 d5 Bxf3 20 Bxf3 Qc8 21 c6> black was always on the back foot. With the benefit of hindsight both <19 ... Bxd5> (3 Ps for the B) and <18 ... d5> look better to me than the moves played. However both, particularly the latter lead to complications beyond my ken. |
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May-02-10 | | goodevans: <bright1: Instead of 30. Rf4-Rh4 doesn't 30. Rf4-f7 with the threat of mate on h7 win quicker?> 30 Rf7 Qc2 31 Re6 Rf8 looks less ominous for black than the game continuation. |
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May-02-10 | | anand: hello all,
following on goodevans' thought, I was also stuck at 19..Bxd5. looks like a favourable move for black. It produces passed pawns and it also frees the cornered knight for the bishop which was also moving unidimensionally only. kindly help. |
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May-02-10 | | Once: "I can see for miles", by The Who, 1967
I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
I know that you have 'cause there's magic in my eyes
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Oh yeah
If you think that I don't know about the little tricks you've played
And never see you when deliberately you put things in my way Well, here's a poke at you
You're gonna choke on it too
You're gonna lose that smile
Beacuse all the while
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Oh yeah
You took advantage of my trust in you when I was so far away
I saw you holding lots of other guys and now you've got the nerve to say That you still want me
Well, that's as may be
But you gotta stand trial
Because all the while
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Oh yeah
I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
I know that you have 'cause there's magic in my eyes
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Oh yeah
The Eiffel Tower and the Taj Mahal are mine to see on clear days
You thought that I would need a crystal ball to see right through the haze Well, here's a poke at you
You're gonna choke on it too
You're gonna lose that smile
Beacuse all the while
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
And miles and miles and miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles
I can see for miles and miles |
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May-02-10
 | | bright1: <goodevans> You are correct. What I missed is that after 30. Rf4-h4 Black cannot protect h7 by Qb2-c2 because then white can play 31. Re1-e4. Thanks. |
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May-02-10 | | Once: Ivanov cleverly move orders Miles here. Against the English (1. c4), Miles often liked to play the English defence, with moves like 1...b6, 2...e6, 3...Bb7 and often f5 too. All designed to pressurise e4. If white plays Nc3 at some point, black will play Bb4 with a sort of Nimzo indian/ queen's indian, dutch hybrid. But by starting the game with 1. Nf3, Ivanov keeps Miles guessing about the direction that the opening will take. Now 1...b6 allows 2. e4 and the somewhat disreputable Owen's defence. It's only when Miles has played 1...Nf6 (ruling out f5), that Ivanov plays c4, but with Miles' pet defence not now possible. The English defence is not entirely sound (although better against the English opening than against d4), but you might as well move order your opponent away from an opening he is familiar with. In the final position, 40. Rxh7 Qxh7 and then either 41. c7 or 41. Qxh7+ followed by 42. c7. In either case, white promotes the passed c pawn. |
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May-02-10
 | | chrisowen: Tony must have forgot his Alpen this morning, the c6 pawn is a real killer. 16..Na5 climbs afoot legitimately arming castles and arrowing queen bishop battery. It points to arranging a material gain but the walk 24..Kg8 man fails from Bg4. Ivanov paves the way and peaks with black lodging f5, e5 I pined for all day long no kidding. Display of sacs on f5 picks up the win downing his spirits. Miles to go shoulders Kh8 but white's rooks are closing in. Call of the wild flies down Rxf2, king up and howl on grip heading rh7+ and finished. |
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May-02-10 | | swordfish: Great pun. Who came up with it? |
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May-03-10 | | kevin86: "Miles to go b4 I sleep" |
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Oct-25-16 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: It is 2016. And it is still the best pun of all times. |
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Oct-25-16 | | whiteshark: "Miles couldn't handle c6ness" |
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Nov-18-19
 | | Plaskett: In a Spanish League game of November 9th 2019 I played 9...d6 Vs GM Matamoros of Ecuador.
After 10 e4 Nd7 11 Bg5 I tried 11...cxd4 12 cxd4 Qc7 13 Rac1 e5 14 Rfd1 h6 15 Be3 Rd8 16 dxe5 dxe5 17 Qa3 Bc6 18 c5 0-0 19 cxb6 Nxb6 20 Rxd8 Rxd8 21 Qc5 Rd6 22 h4 Nd7 23 Qc2 Qb7 24 Nd2 Nb6 and there we agreed it drawn. In my opinion after 8 Qd3 white is simply better.
That Miles saw no better way of entering the middlegame than to immediately undouble the white c pawns tells you something. |
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Nov-18-19
 | | perfidious: My first thought on seeing this line was that Black would try to play against the weakness at c4 in standard Nimzo-Indian style, but it is indeed telling that both GMs playing Black went in for ....cxd4 very early on. Four weeks before this game, I sat opposite Ivanov, who was on a tear at the time, though that game lacked the pyrotechnics of this heavyweight encounter: it began 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 e6 and eventually became a main line of the Tartakower QGD, something I was trying as Black at the time. I felt I had a decent position in the middlegame, but was unable to find a breakthrough--of course Ivanov eventually came up with something and got me. |
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Nov-18-19 | | Granny O Doul: I'm with Bob Crisp. White played c4 in the opening, but he didn't c4 Miles any more than he Nf3'd or g3'd him. And attributing White's win to the opening move order seems very much like annotating by result. I will say great game by Ivanov. |
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