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Ljubomir Ljubojevic vs Svetozar Gligoric
Match (1979), Belgrade YUG, rd 5
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Flohr System (C92)  ·  0-1


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Dec-05-02  Sylvester: Gligoric says he chose not to trade his two rooks for a queen so played 22...a5 23. a3 Nc4 to gain the bishop pair and exert pressure along the b-file.
Dec-05-02  drukenknight: dont you think 16 Bxh7 would be more straightforward?
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  Sneaky: I don't think he's developed enough to make that sac work.
Dec-05-02  drukenknight: it looks like the check on h5 will get the piece back in a hurry and the B will then attack the Q. I dont think black can refuse the offered B.

As far as development goes, you can just look at white and say hes not developed enuf, isn't a function of both sides? The total picture? If so then blacks B/N/R are analagous to whites and are equaly out of the picture, however whites B has the open diagonal. Is that enuf of a difference in development?

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  Sneaky: <the check on h5 will get the piece back in a hurry> If that's true then it's a fine piece sac but I don't see that. Line please.
Dec-05-02  drukenknight: oh I see what you are saying the B comees back to block check. Maybe I am a move too late. 15 Nxh7 is that better?
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  Sneaky: Better, but I think the problem with 15.Nxh7 is that the king doesn't take it but instead plays ...Nxf4. The resulting position is a little muddy but I'd have to assume it favors the Black, with his extra piece.

To illustrate my point about development: go back to the position after 15...Bxg5. If you change this position, by moving White's rook that's on a1 over to f1, suddenly your idea of Bxh7 would actually work: 16.Bxh7+ Kxh7 17.Qh5+ Bh6 18.Bxh6 gxh6 19.Rxf7+ Rxf7 20.Qxf7+ Kh8 21.Re7 with mate coming soon.

Dec-06-02  Cyphelium: Well, I guess I shouldn't question varations were a piece is teleported, but in your variation Sneaky, couldn't black play 17.-Kg8 instead of Bh6.

Then 18. Bxg5 f6 and black is down a pawn, but at least he avoids the mate and can fight.

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