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Rafael Vaganian vs George Steven Botterill
"Hitting the Botterill" (game of the day Feb-18-2012)
Hastings 7475 (1975), Hastings ENG, rd 7, Jan-04
Trompowsky Attack: General (A45)  ·  1-0


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Feb-11-06  Cogano: <patzer2> Thank you kindly for your gracious words. They are most sincerely appreciated. & I'm glad you take my politeness for what it's supposed to be, rather than (as <hayton3> suggested,) banality & insencerity! & thank you for the article. I quite enjoyed it.

<hayton3> I would love to post my losses here. But, of the 3 games I've played thus far (2 of which were many years ago), I only have a record of the most recent one, from a couple of months back, which wasn't a loss for me. & even if that were not the case, I don't how to post any of my games here, regardless what the result was. I for one think there's more to learn from failure than from success. If I were conducting an experiment & it succeeded, that would only confirm my hypothesis, but that would not necessarily mean that my hypothesis was right in the first place! Why? Because my hypothesis is based on certain elements I picked from the available batch & which I decided must fit together, regardless whether or not all the elements in the batch might actually already form some kind of pattern together or have some kind of relationship together that I failed to detect. Whereas failure would show me what I was NOT trying to find, something about the method that I did NOT want to use (& thus show me that it does indeed have other merits & uses after all!), etc. So for me failure is under-rated & under-appreciated. Furthermore, when kids in school learn to value only success, they get crushed when they fail. They never get to learn the value & uses of failure, so as to benefit & make the most of BOTH success AND failure! Humanity AND society have much further to go just yet. But, hope springs eternal! Thank you kindly for your words of support AND for sharing your different perspective & opinion on the issues we've discussed. If nothing more, they serve to prevent me from stagnating & remind me of what I belive in & why. Thank you for that.

Take very good care both & all, & have yourselves a very good day. Cheers mates!

Feb-11-06  hayton3: zzzzzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZ
Feb-11-06  Cogano: <hayton3> My most abject & humblest apologies for disturbing your slumber. Sweet dreams mate! Cheers! ;)
Feb-12-06  Cogano: Hello <Stonewaller2> & I sincerely hope this finds you well. I've meaning to look up "Caissa" in my Latin-English dictionary & today I finally did. Alas, nothing. Not even a word close to or related to it. Same with my Greek-English dictionary (just on the off-chance I may find something). So thank you for taking the time to add further insight on this word. Take very good care & have a great day. Cheers mate!
Dec-15-09  arsen387: I believe when playing 11.Bxf7+ Vaganian saw all the sequence up to the stunning 17.Ne7! Beautiful and impressive
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  perfidious: Black's sense of danger let him down here in this middlegame, which has more features relating to an open game than one arising from 1.d4.
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  whiteshark: So where is Black's mistake?
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  WannaBe: <whiteshark: So where is Black's mistake?>

As my buddy <DrDum> always says, he sat down. =)

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  perfidious: <WannaBe: <whiteshark: So where is Black's mistake?> As my buddy <DrDum> always says, he sat down. =)>

Ah, many were the days I knew when that was the basic error on my part....

Feb-18-12  waustad: Botterill was taken because of a Tromped up charge.
Feb-18-12  sevenseaman: 17. Ne7 is an extraordinary move. It paralyzes Black. Would perhaps be seen only in a puzzle situation.
Feb-18-12  Pyrus01: Black's mistakes, 5,7,8,9,10 arise from the misguided notion that the game was developing, not ending quite so abruptly. It happens. (This, of course, transpired after he sat down.)
Feb-18-12  Oceanlake: Delterp had it right; s/he could have mentioned the bishop play. As Pyrus01 hinted, it may be that only Black's first move is good. After move 10, Black has no pieces developed usefully.
Feb-18-12  PaulLovric: black went wrong with 2. g6
Feb-18-12  goodevans: George Botterill didn't always play this badly. In fact he scored victories over several GMs including Robert Eugene Byrne, Jonathan Speelman, Murray Chandler, John Nunn and a young Nigel Short.
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  Penguincw: I can understand the pun, in a way.
Feb-18-12  Memethecat: Was gonna say black could continue, but after a harder look its obviously hopeless, he's slaughtered. Nice miniature, I've never seen this opening attack before, I might give it a go! It definitely kept black on the back foot.
Feb-18-12  AlphaMale: <A Botterill to Swallow> would have been my choice.
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  kevin86: The queen must be lost as escape would be met by a mate at f7.and if 17...♕h7 18 ♘eg6+ ♔g7 19 ♕f7# a real cozy mate.
Feb-18-12  ajile: Black has too many weak light squares in the middle and k-side. Plus 9..Bb7 makes it even worse with the e6 square weak. The position just screamed for the Bxf7+ sac.
Feb-18-12  Cibator: <goodevans: George Botterill didn't always play this badly. In fact he scored victories over several GMs including Robert Eugene Byrne, Jonathan Speelman, Murray Chandler, John Nunn and a young Nigel Short.> All Anglophones, I notice ..... no USSR or east Europeans.

The only puzzle here for me is why Black thought 10. ... Bh6 was any good. Moves an already-developed piece, unguards the Pf6 - that's enough to condemn it, even without the devastating combination that ensues.

Feb-18-12  King Death: < Cibator: <goodevans: George Botterill didn't always play this badly. In fact he scored victories over several GMs including Robert Eugene Byrne, Jonathan Speelman, Murray Chandler, John Nunn and a young Nigel Short.> All Anglophones, I notice ..... no USSR or east Europeans...>

As a British expatriate I'm sure you'd notice that almost every one of Botterill's games were played in Britain and that he was a pretty decent player, if not in the class of the continental GMs who spent all their time on chess.

As far as your comments on 10...Bh6, I agree that on general grounds Black should be trying to get developed and that his move doesn't do anything to help. Maybe 10...Qd7 and 11...Nc6 to avoid the holocaust at f7 is better and it can't be any worse than what happened. The best place for Black's king is in the center until White gives some hint what he means to do.

Feb-18-12  NewLine: Wow! This game should definitely be in the book "How NOT to play chess". Brilliant example by black.
Feb-15-13  clownface: development is never wrong
Feb-15-13  clownface: the first 5 moves compete for the centre: constantly challenge the centre
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