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Apr-27-06 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Does 34...Qd1+ 35 Rxd1 Rxd1+ 36 Ka2 Rb2+ 37 Ka3 Ra1# work? It's a move longer, but still leads to mate, unless I've missed something. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Sadistic: A lot easier than yesterdays puzzle |
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Apr-27-06 | | RandomVisitor: <Gregor Samsa Mendel>33...Rb3+ 34.Ka1 Qd1+ 35.Rxd1 Ra3+! 36.Kb1 Rxd1 mate |
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Apr-27-06 | | Hongkonger: <Sadistic> Agreed. I've struggled the last couple of days but then got this one easily. Perhaps there is a time warp in the cg universe and today is really Tuesday. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: <RandomVisitor> Indeed. It appears that there is more than one path to enlightenment. |
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Apr-27-06 | | patzer2: With the puzzle solution 33...Rxb3+!, Black initiates the first of two consecutive deflections in a four-move back rank mate. |
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Apr-27-06 | | ganstaman: <RandomVisitor> You realize that the line you give is the actual line played, only with two moves inverted. <GSM>, on the other hand, is looking at a slightly different mate, that does seem to work in an extra move. In other words, the improvement you point out in his line is the actual moves played that he already knows about. What I like about this game is that after 33. Ng6, black wins, but white would win if he were allowed to move again first. 34. Ne7+ Kh7 35. f8=Q+ <Kh6 36. Qh7+ Kxh7 37. Qg7#> Rxf8 36. Qxf8+ Kh6 37. Qh8#. I might have messed up, but I think that works out. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Mating Net: Does the b3 pawn have a blinking red light over him and a sign that says "take me, take me" or am I seeing things? |
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Apr-27-06 | | ganstaman: I'm curious if anyone has more time than me to look at this: does 33. Nd3 hold for white, or will he still lose to similar tactics? It obviously can't be worse than 33. Ng6, but it might not really be better either. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Dionyseus: <gangstaman> 33.Nd3 doesn't save white. The mate would be 33...Rxb3+ 34.cxb3 Rxd3 35.Qf2 c2+ 36.Ka1 Qc3+ 37.Ka2 Qxb3+ 38.Ka8 Qa3 # |
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Apr-27-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: An easy but beautiful finish. However, to me the truly amazing play was Black's series of moves leading up to the combination (I've seen the same thing all the time in futbol--it isn't the goal which is spectacular, it's the through ball that leads to the goal). Black shows astounding (possibly reckless) bravery throughout, starting with 7...Qxd4. His slow Queen side counterplay and the setup for the combination required nerves of something harder than steel, esp. since White might have some improvements here--I don't particularly trust 14.Nh3. I would have looked at either 14.Nge4, because the exchange of two pairs of minors won't necessarily ease Black's game (look at the rest of his development), or the passive sacrifice 14.g2-g4!? Still, this is one of my new favorite defensive brilliancies. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Madman99X: There is very little that holds for white. He is down a rook. |
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Apr-27-06 | | ganstaman: <Dionyseus> What about 33. Nd3 Rxb3+ 34. Ka1? As your line shows, the knight placed there is too important to give it up with 34. cxb3. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Ashram64: black is clearly better throughout the game, each move he selected is more sound and deep. I found white was in a passive position throughout.. he really shouldnt gambit a pawn in the earlier game. The puzzle wise, it's lot easier than yesterday :) |
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Apr-27-06 | | ganstaman: Nevermind. 33. Nd3 Rxb3+ 34. Ka1 Qxc2 and I can't see a way to stop all of the mate-in-1s black is threatening. |
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Apr-27-06 | | RandomVisitor: 31.Can White possibly hold with 31.Ng5? |
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Apr-27-06 | | chesswonders: did not seem like a Thursday one! |
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Apr-27-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: <RandomVisitor>, 31.Ng5 contains a number of threats: h4-h5-h6-h7X (a bit slow, to be sure); 32.h5 and 33.Nxf7 (a little quicker); and if 31...bxc3; 32.Ne4 drives the Black Queen away from its great square, and gives White a little time to try something like Qg3-f4-h6. The Knight can always sac itself for the pawn on c3. But is that enough time? Black does have something odd to try: 31.Ng5,bxc3; 32.Ne4,Ba6?!; 33.Nxd2,cxd2; 34.Rd1,Be2, but that seems to run into 35.Qg5,Bxd1; 36.Qh6,Bxc2+; 37.Ka2. Looks like a job for a silicon monster. My watery and watered down brain cells are a little too tired right now. Incidentally, has anyone else taken a look at White's 14.Nh3 and tried to find improvements? |
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Apr-27-06 | | DP12: Black's play in this game really seems dodgy. It wouldn't strike me as bizarre at all if white had many forced wins in the preceding play. |
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Apr-27-06 | | marcwordsmith: seems like an easy one for Thursday. Check, forced move, check, forced move, check, forced move, and mate. Of course after black goes Rxb3+, White actually has three LEGAL moves, but the other two are so obviously bad. |
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Apr-27-06 | | goldfarbdj: I saw Rxb3+ instantly, of course, but I somehow overlooked 35. ... Qd1+. I analyzed instead 35. ... Qxc2+ 36. Kxc2 Rd2+ 37 Kb1 Rb2+ 38 Kc1 Ra1 mate. I'm not sure about the aesthetics there: it's giving up the queen for only a pawn instead of a rook, but on the other hand it's longer, where fewer moves is generally considered better. |
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Apr-27-06 | | mago de riga: fritz suggests 27. Qg5 -or Qg4 - or Qf3, with same results (5.84) |
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Apr-27-06 | | prinsallan: Very nice, and a bit too hard for me. |
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Apr-27-06 | | Marvol: <goldfarbdj> I saw the same line as you did while overlooking Qd1+.
I guess as long as we both were sure about the mate, we solved it, longer or not. A mate is a mate is a mate. Not too hard for a Thursday, all in all. |
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Apr-27-06 | | mgracian: The line is forced, easy |
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