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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Gustav Richard Neumann
Baden-Baden (1870), Baden-Baden GER, rd 9, Jul-26
Vienna Game: Vienna Gambit. Steinitz Variation (C29)  ·  1-0


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Jan-30-04  Taidanii: I honestly believe that if black would have played just a tad bit better, Steintz would not have pulled this out. Blunder this...blunder that.
Nov-05-05  PizzatheHut: What is wrong with 12. Re1?
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  al wazir: If 23...Nxd7 then 24. Bxg6+ (not 24. Qxh7 Ne7) Qxg6/hxg6 25. Qe2+ Kf7/Kf8 26. Qe7#.
Apr-16-10  ariel el luchador: Me resulta dificil saber que hubiera respondido Steinitz si las negras contestaban P3A,si bien reconozco que es dificil encontrar una buena jugada negra en esta posición, lo pongo en inglés por que la pregunta es interesnte.¿whath the answer if black play 22)....c6? thank you
Apr-26-10  ariel el luchador: A 22)...P3A sigue 23)T8D+ TxT 24)TxT+ DXT 25)AxD RxA con mejor final para el blanco debido al peón de más,tal vez haya algo más fuerte no es fácil jugar con negras.
Apr-26-10  psmith: <ariel el luchador> -- I made a mistake in a post I just deleted, thinking you were asking about 23... c6.

So let's try again.

Fritz 5.32 thinks 22... c6 23. Re2 is winning for White (with the idea of 24. Bf5)

Entonces... 22.... P3A 23. T2R con la idea 24. A5A. (He comprendido la notation espanol?)

Apr-26-10  ariel el luchador: psmith your spanish´s notation is correct but 23)Re7(T7R)is A imposible move.La jugada 23)T7R es imposible.
Apr-26-10  psmith: Pero he escribido T2R (perhaps you were confused by my two different posts -- the first one I deleted was about 23... P3A, not 22.... P3A).

SO... 22... P3A 23. T2R (2, not 7).

In modern algebraic:

22... c6 23. ♖e2

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Apr-26-10  ariel el luchador: you understood de Spanish´s notation thanks for the answer.Which thinks Fritz is the 12 better move for black?i don´t see the black mistake in the game,Entendistés la anotación española,no veo cual fue el error negro en la partida,¿Cual es el error negro según el Fritz? Gracias por la respuesta
Apr-26-10  ariel el luchador: in the same time we writing toghether,in my third message i reponses your first message .Which thinks Fritz is the 12 better move for black?i don´t see the black mistake in the game,sorry for my english.I writting in spanish because is my languaje and perhaps spanish´s people read this page.Nos escribimos al mismo tiempo , mi tercer mensaje contesta tu primer mensaje ,no veo el error del negro en la partida,me gustaría saber la opinión del Fritz. su primer
Apr-26-10  psmith: <ariel el luchador> Es muy complicado. When analyzing with Fritz initially various moves look good for Black but as the analysis progresses White shows surprising strength. The inability to castle hurts Black.

Right now I would say 13...Nxe5 is better than 13...Bxe5.

It would be good to have the position analyzed by a stronger engine, like Rybka. I only have an old (but free) version of Fritz here.

Apr-26-10  psmith: 13...Nxe5 14. Bf5 Qxf5 15. Rxf5 Bxf5 16. dxe5 Bc5+ 17. Kh1 Nd7 (or Nc6). Black ha a lot of pieces for a Queen and a pawn. Black is probably better.
Apr-30-10  ariel el luchador: Psmith:a 17.... C2D 18)P6R y a 17)....C3A 18)D5D A3C 19)P6R Para mi el blanco esta mejor.Psmith:17)....Cd7 18) e6 17)...Cc6 18)Dd5 Ab6 19)P6R i think Better for white.
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  offramp: White has just thrown his e-pawn forward and black has accepted the challenge with 19...♗d7:♙e6.

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White obviously is well-placed for a serious attack. He now plays 20.Rd2, obviously with the idea of continuing with Rfd1 at some point.

What happens next in this dynamic, critical position? Black plays 20...a5.
Steinitz, the Austrian Morphy, counters with 21.b3.
Then black continues his queenside onslaught with 21...a4.

Steinitz now becomes fed up with all these pleasantries. He plays 22.Rfd1 and wins.

But there is an immediate win in that position just before 20.Rd2 diagrammed earlier.

It is the spectacular 20.Qxh7!!

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