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Paul Vaitonis vs Erich Eliskases
Olympiad (1933), Folkestone ENG, rd 1, Jun-12
English Opening: Anglo-Indian Defense. Queen's Knight Variation (A16)  ·  1-0


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Nov-16-10  rapidcitychess: 16...f5?????? I doubt this is a real game!!!!
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  Phony Benoni: <rapidcitychess> Position after <16.Nh3>

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16...f5 is hardly a blunder, since Black is losing a piece in any event due to the pin on his knight. The only surprise to me it that Eliskases bothered moving at all.

You can find this game at the Olimpbase website: Click on the first game for Vaitonis, against the Austrian team (AUT).

A note to the game states that it was published on p. 461 of the 1933 British Chess Magazine, which indicated after 15.f4 "...and White won in a few moves." Perhaps Eliskases held out to move twenty or so as a matter of pride. I don't know where our version came from, but the game itself is certainly legitimate.

Nov-16-10  rapidcitychess: <Phony Benoni>


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  whiteshark: <rapidcitychess> I think Black was lost 'long before' <16....f5>.
Nov-16-10  rapidcitychess: Oh well, let's try this again.

14....e6???? Could this be rejected for quality errors?


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  whiteshark: I don't know, but White already missed the strong <12.Bf4!>

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with the idea of <12...e5 13.Bh3 Rd8> (0-0-0 isn't better due to diagonal pin) <14.Bxd7+ Rxd7 15.Bxe5>

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with <15...Bxe5 16.Nxe5 Rxd1+ 17.Qxd1> and the Black position is a mere wreck. (17...Qxe5? 18.Re1)

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  Phony Benoni: Well, if you're looking for first causes, Black committed several inaccuracies. The first big mistake was probably 12...0-0-0, since White is winning at least a pawn after 13.Ng5.

Then 13...Ne5 is a blunder, since the knight can't escape the pin after 14.Bc3. If say, 14...Bh6 15.f4 Bxg5 16.Qf5+ followed by 17.Qxg5 and the knight is now pinned against Rh8.

No, it was simply a bad day for Eliskases. This was, after all, his first game at an Olympiad, and he was surely nervous.

Now, as for the quality of the game. You're correct that, objectively, it's a lousy game. I doubt Vaitonis was very proud of winning it. If, say, you and I had played it at a local weekend quad, there's no way it would make it into the database. Especially if you had won.

But games from international tournaments are usually accepted without worrying about the quality criteria. It's assumed their quality is going to be good, because usually only masters play in international events. Plus, there's always the point of historial interest and importance. It's a goal of most online database to preserve complete records of major events, without worrying about the quality of individual games.

This does lead to anomalies. Take a look at some of the recent Olympiad games, which are bulk loaded. Ecch. But are you going to go through each one of thousands of games to make a quality judgment, or accept them just because they're from the Olympiad?

Nov-16-10  rapidcitychess: <Phony Benoni>

To be honest, I wouldn't recieve them just because they were in the Olympiad. But I know that is highly impractical and couldn't be done with hundreds, possibly thousands, suddenly going into the database for submission.

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  Phony Benoni: <rapidcitychess> Exactly right.

In my opinion, it's a waste of time to focus on the clunkers when there are enough games worthy of attention and study to last ten lifetimes.

Nov-16-10  rapidcitychess: <Phony Benoni>

As soon as you said <exactly right>, I felt like some student that had just figured out algebra. lol

Sice I'm still here, I might as well give an intresting game.

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