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Vladimir Kramnik vs Peter Svidler
Dortmund Sparkassen (2004) (blitz), Dortmund GER, rd 8, Jul-30
Modern Defense: Queen Pawn Fianchetto (A40)  ·  1-0
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Aug-03-04  themindset: jesus, blacks position is just ridiculous.
Aug-03-04  chesscookie: why did black resign..he isn't completely lost is he?
Aug-03-04
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  Sneaky: I could be wrong, but I think the big problem is that threat of Rxd5 is in the air, e.g. 15...Qc8 16.Rxd5! cxd5 (16...Rxe6? 17.Qxe6!) 17.Bxd5 threatening both Bxa8 and a myriad of revealed check possibilities.
Aug-03-04  chesscookie: <sneaky> That is a very real threat.
Jul-09-05  PinkPanther: LOL, Kramnik won a game over a SuperGM in 16 moves without even touching three of his pieces hhhahahahahaha.
Jul-09-05  Hesam7: <Sneaky> I do not agree, after 15 ... Qc8 16 Rxd5 cxd5 17 Bxd5 Bb7. White does not seem to win. Instead I think the simple:

15 ... Qc8 16 Nxg7 Kxg7 17 Bxd5 cxd5 18 Qxe7+ Rf7 19 Bh6+

wins much faster. If 15 ... Qb7 then Nd8-Nxc6-Bxd5+ wins.

Apr-29-09  Vincere: Hesam, if 17. ...Bb7 18. Nc7+, winning the rook, Ex. 18. Nc7+ Kh8 19. Nxa8 if 19. .. Bxa8 20. Bxa8 or 19.... Bxd5 20. Nxd6 and white has 2 pawns less. But, yeah I think you're right, it's not an decisive position.

"15 ... Qc8 16 Nxg7 Kxg7 17 Bxd5 cxd5 18 Qxe7+ Rf7 19 Bh6+"" 19...Kg8

If 15...Qc8 16. Rxd5 cxd5 17. Bxd5 Ra7, it seems to me that white ended up in a position where the rook sacrifice shouldn't have been done. Because there's nothing so good to do with the revealed check with the Knight.

Jun-25-12  LoveThatJoker: Happy Birthday, WC Kramnik!

Guess-the-Move Final Score:

Kramnik vs Svidler, 2004.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KRAMNIK.
Your score: 25 (par = 22)

LTJ

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