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| SetNoEscapeOn: <badest: <KamikazeAttack: I refuse to call it because it is too close to call but I wont be surprised if Topalov gave Anand a real beating and without any scandal I might add.> No ... Kamikaze, it will be a close score.> Well, you never know. All of the chessbase commentators claimed that the Kramnik- Anand match would be too close to call, and there was little reason to doubt their assessment. Anand started with 4.5/6 all the same.
In my view, Anand-Topalov seems to have a greater chance to be won by a 2 point margin or more than any of the last four or so wc matches. Topalov can be a very streaky player, considerably less solid but more dangerous that Kramnik. |
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| Nov-18-09 |
| Blunderdome: One of them could get +5, as it is 3 points for a win here I believe. But I read the post as predicting <both> would go +5; that will not happen. |
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| SetNoEscapeOn: <Blunderdome: One of them could get +5, as it is 3 points for a win here I believe. But I read the post as predicting <both> would go +5; that will not happen.> Absolutely- there is no way they will both do it. However, I don't think it's out of the question for one of them in the typical "+" sense: wins-losses = 5. It would be sensational, and yet still fall short of what Topalov pulled off in the first half of San Luis 2005 against a significantly stronger field. Difficult, but not impossible. |
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| badest: <SetNoEscapeOn: Well, you never know. All of the chessbase commentators claimed that the Kramnik- Anand match would be too close to call, and there was little reason to doubt their assessment. Anand started with 4.5/6 all the same. In my view, Anand-Topalov seems to have a greater chance to be won by a 2 point margin or more than any of the last four or so wc matches. Topalov can be a very streaky player, considerably less solid but more dangerous that Kramnik.> I don't know ... so many of their games have been so "even" ... but you are right ... if for some reason Anand is passive and Topalov has good preps ... he could manage a few wins. Really, I think that the one of them that has the best 2-week-form will win. It is that even (hard to imagine that one will out-prepare the other). |
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| Nov-18-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: <hard to imagine that one will out-prepare the other> Why? The opposite is more lilely. |
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Nov-18-09
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| badest: <KamikazeAttack: <hard to imagine that one will out-prepare the other> Why? The opposite is more likely.> Seems like they know each-other pretty well... and maybe Topa has run out of Cheparinov "bombs"...(Just because I say this there will probably be some surprises lol...) |
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| Nov-18-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: <Seems like they know each-other pretty well... and maybe Topa has run out of Cheparinov "bombs"...
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Well, Cheparinov is to Topalov what Kasimdzhanov is to Anand:) Who has the strongest seconds? |
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Nov-18-09
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| HeMateMe: < One of them could get +5, as it is 3 points for a win here I believe> Ah, the catch. 3 points for a win? Why? I was referring to one point for a win, going +5 against strong GMs seems impossible, but apparently it has been done. Why a tournament would be played at 3 points for one win? |
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| Nov-18-09 |
| Blunderdome: The idea behind giving 3 points for a win and one for a draw is to discourage draws and produce more decisive games. I don't like it at all. However, it could lead to one player a larger plus score over a shorter period of games than you might normally see. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: London Chess Classic 2009 vis-à-vis +5
1 Carlsen, Magnus g NOR 2801
2 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2772
3 Nakamura, Hikaru g USA 2715
4 Short, Nigel D g ENG 2707
5 Adams, Michael g ENG 2698
6 Ni, Hua g CHN 2665
7 McShane, Luke J g ENG 2615
8 Howell, David W L g ENG 2597
My prediction had nothing to do with 3 points for a win. I don’t even believe this tournament would adopt such a scoring system. I expect the time-honoured traditional scoring system of 1 point per win and ½ point per draw to continue in London. Why is +5 so difficult to imagine? Carlsen had +6 in Nanjing which was a much stronger field and a super tournament. And from the way Kramnik played in Tal with +3, another +2 points ain't nothing against this field. I expect Short, Adams, Ni Hua, McShane, Howell and Nakamura to fall to Carlsen. I also expect most of them to fall to Kramnik. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| jussu: <KamikazeAttack>,
It was decided even before the list of participants was clear: 3-1-0 it will be. +5 out of seven games is close to crazy in any case, these are all grandmasters there. I would expect the winner to score +3, maybe +4. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: <jussu: > U are right about the scoring system for London. Not sure which is the bigger joke between this diabolical scoring sytem or the mix ‘n match of SGM GMs and patzer GMs. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| Xenon Oxide: <patzer GMs.>
As compared to simply patzers like you and me? :P
But the thing about top players is that they'll often fight for a win, giving the opponent more chances too, while a somewhat "weaker" GM may just play a well-analyzed drawish line. If white is playing for a draw from move 1, there's nothing black can do about it. |
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| SetNoEscapeOn: <KamikazeAttack: <Seems like they know each-other pretty well... and maybe Topa has run out of Cheparinov "bombs"... >
Well, Cheparinov is to Topalov what Kasimdzhanov is to Anand:)> I hope Kasim will still be on for the Bonn match, but Anand has confirmed that there will be changes to his team, and I don't think he has announced what those are yet. <+5 out of seven games is close to crazy in any case, these are all grandmasters there. I would expect the winner to score +3, maybe +4.> If you expect +3 or 4, then +5 can only be so "crazy." |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| Augalv: Kramnik said after the match for title against Anand that his next objective was to enter the 2800 club again, and become the #1 rated player in the world. Hope to see that happen. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| kurtrichards: <KamikazeAttack: ...<I expect Short,Adams,Ni Hua,McShane,Howell and Nakamura to fall to Carlsen.> That is already 6 points and if Carlsen drew his game with Kramnik, it would be 6.5/7. Wow...you must be good in predicting. <I also expect most of them to fall to Kramnik.> Including Carlsen? Take no offense <KamikazeAttack>. I meant no argument. See you around. :) |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| jussu: <If you expect +3 or 4, then +5 can only be so "crazy."> +3 is twice as many draws as +5. If some of the underdogs decide to do "draw bully" with wite pieces to the favourites, there will be a draw. And since ELO costs much more than it should, many of them will probably go for it. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: Q: Were you not shocked at how feebly Anand lost to Aronian in the last round? Kramnik: I was. Especially because Anand is well-known for his good preparation. I think it is likely that he has a bit of a complex about Aronian. He plays very badly against him. Almost every player has his bogey opponents. I said to Levon “Tell me, how come you manage to get Anand to play against you at the strength of an Indian candidate master?” Aronian laughed and said: “You pay me, and I’ll tell you!”. But joking aside, apart from this game, Anand played very well in Moscow. He was competing for first place until the last round, and the misfortune against Aronian does not in any way detract from his high class. Q: Do you have any bogey opponents yourself?
Kramnik: Fortunately not. At one time it was Alexey Shirov, but I shook off this complex and now have a plus score against him. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: K: In two and a half weeks, I play the tournament in London, assuming I eventually get a visa. Q:Are you having problems with that?
K: Yes, they are reluctant to give out visas to anyone right now.
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Yikes, those damn Brits! |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| ChessBossMan: Great article, I think I may have to add Vladimir Kramnik to the grandmasters section with in our website, this week we are featuring Natalia Pogonina. Check us out: http://www.ChessBoss.com/. |
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