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Nov-14-09
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| HeMateMe: Man, the game with Aronian was a serious beat down. Hard to see this one coming. Could this have been something the slide rule boys cooked up during the tournament, and presented it to Anand, without his firmly examaning the opening? Most peculiar. I think it was just fatigue, physical and emotional. Or, he might have tried the new line on the spot, without examaning it at home. This is something to remember, when preparing for topalov. |
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| Nov-15-09 |
| anandrulez: Maybe Anand has really lost the chess touch that he used to have - he is 39 now. He is taking a lot of time finding moves , he is no longer dominating rapids ... Still he is a great player to be in top five but not the best . Folks like Aronian and Carlsen at the current stage will be favorites vs Anand in a match I suppose ... He plays old players better , but youngsters seems to have got the better of his style by playing faster .
Anyway I hope he is gonna come out on top again ! Gi Vishy ! |
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| Nov-15-09 |
| VaselineTopLove: Anand will beat Carlsen in a match right now. I'm not sure of his chances against Aronian. However, I'm sure that Carlsen would beat Aronian in a match right now. So there's no clear favorite amongst the top players - no dominant force. |
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Nov-15-09
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| veigaman: May be Anand is forcing the position too much when he faces aronian, anxiety is not a good adviser. |
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Nov-15-09
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| Rolfo: I wouldn't weight this loss too much. Anand also played below usual level before the Kramnik match.. I am sure he has analysed some better lines which he keeps for later use |
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Nov-15-09
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| tamar: This year it is probably impossible to do the study and focus that would be necessary to turn it around against Aronian. Hence Anand feels more pressure when they play, knowing Aronian is dangerous. |
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Nov-15-09
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| kamalakanta: If I remember correctly, Anand did not do too well in Bilbao, before beating Kramnik in Bonn.
My suspicion is he does not want to show his real preparation.... |
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| Nov-15-09 |
| VaselineTopLove: <Anand is forcing the position too much when he faces aronian> I agree. Seems to me that Anand is desperate for a win and wants to avenge past defeats whenever he meets Aronian and in his desperation, he doesn't even want to draw and pushes too far until he errs and then Aronian pounces on him. I don't think Aronian is doing anything special - just waiting for Anand to err. Anand should try to draw his game with Aronian and wait for Aronian to make the mistake, and also make sure that there are no gaps in his opening and end games. Instead of playing too fast to save time, he should make use of his time to think through complicated positions. Time is useless if you blunder. |
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| Nov-15-09 |
| Plato: <If I remember correctly, Anand did not do too well in Bilbao, before beating Kramnik in Bonn. My suspicion is he does not want to show his real preparation....> This is certainly true. He can't afford to reveal any preparation early, especially when he'll be facing an opening monster like Topalov. |
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Nov-16-09
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| spinal pat: I also think Anand is guarding his prep for Topalov. Isn't this the same case for Topalov also? He didn't play that much this year and I've had the feeling he wasn't really going full throttle either (although he still had a good result in Nanjing).
Hopefully after this WC match there will be enough time so the WC himself can play freely without hiding any prep for a year. So we can finally see a champion who has the opportunity to play like a champion outside the WC match itself.
How long has it really been now, Kramnik was probably allready hiding prep from 2007 so that's like 3 or 4 years the chess worldchampion is playing with the safety on. |
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Nov-16-09
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| SetNoEscapeOn: Let's also remember that Anand finished the event on +1, had a performance rating of over 2800, and even gained a couple of rating points. He made the same score that Topalov made in China, but this was a much stronger tournament. And he did it while employing a "new" defense as black. The rain on his parade can all be traced to the final round debacle vs Aronian, and I think both <Eyal> and <veigaman> make good points concerning that. I think it is a very real concern, but it's something he can work on later. It's also a rather long drought since his last classical tournament win, but he had a good enough run before that. I don't think there is anything wrong with his game. |
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| Nov-16-09 |
| Jaideepblue: After the debacle in the last round, looks like Vishy has come out swinging in Day One of the World Blitz Championship. 12/14, two points lead and more impressively, unbeaten so far in blitz! Tomorrow he will face a tougher challenge, up against Carlsen and Aronian but very impressive that he hasn't lost his legendary "lightning" touch. |
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| Nov-16-09 |
| humANANDroid: WBC Day 1
Standings after 14 rounds:
1 GM Anand, Viswanathan IND 2788
12.0
2 GM Carlsen, Magnus NOR 2801
10.0
3 GM Karpov, Anatoly RUS 2619
9.0
4 GM Kramnik, Vladimir RUS 2772
8.5
5 GM Grischuk, Alexander RUS 2736
8.5
6 GM Karjakin, Sergey UKR 2723
8.0
7 GM Bareev, Evgeny RUS 2634
8.0
8 GM Ponomariov, Ruslan UKR 2739
8.0
9 GM Ivanchuk, Vassily UKR 2739
Round 15
Karpov - Anand
Ponomariov - Kramnik
Bareev - Gelfand
Morozevich - Kosteniuk
Svidler - Gashimov
Grischuk - Ivanchuk
Mamedyarov - Leko
Tkachiev - Jakovenko
Dominguez - Aronian
Karjakin - Polgar
Naiditsch - Carlsen |
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| Nov-17-09 |
| humANANDroid: WBC Day 1:
1. Leko - Anand 1/2
2. Anand - Ivanchuk 1-0
3. Kramnik - Anand 1/2
4. Anand - Gashimov 1-0
5. Kosteniuk - Anand 0-1
6. Anand - Bareev 1-0
7. Morozevich - Anand 1/2
8. Anand - Svidler 1-0
9. Ponomariov - Anand 1/2
10. Anand - Grischuk 1-0
11. Mamedyarov - Anand 0-1
12. Anand - Tkachiev 1-0
13. Dominguez - Anand 0-1
14. Anand - Karjakin 1-0
Fantastic results so far in Day 1!
15. Karpov - Anand ... |
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| Nov-17-09 |
| anandrulez: Any comments on todays game with Carlsen? I dont have a Rybka to check , but can anyone tell me how the position was? I think in the end Anand could have drawn if he played well . |
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| Nov-17-09 |
| anandrulez:  click for larger viewAnand was winning in Carlsen game with
30 ... Qa4
Magnus plays and Vishy surprisingly retracts with Qa5 which is not clear , instaed the move Ne3 wins there ! Overall Anand's play today has been average ...Carlsen has been magnanimous the way he wins game even drawn positions vs super GM's . Atleast 3 drawn games positions vs Anand , Svidler and Leko ! His fighting skills etc are truely the stuff of a World Champion , like Kasparov . His endgame skill as Kasparov said is very gifted . |
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| Nov-17-09 |
| returnoftheking: Nice find, actually pretty simple tactics that decide these games.
But when you say a drawn endgame against anand, what part of the game do you mean?
B vs N? |
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| Nov-17-09 |
| anandrulez: Thanks . Yes , in the end , B vs N was drawn , Carlsen took over the initiative in 1 or 2 moves where Anand didn't centralze his king and the rest was over . In endgames as you know one move can decide the game . |
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| Nov-20-09 |
| anandrulez: Anyone think Carlsen has finally outclassed Vishy at 18 ? ! Facts point out to this . Anand has gone with 4 loses against Carlsen's 4 wins this year including blitz rapids etc . While Anand's 'Aronian complex' is evident , Carlsen comlex ? is also picking up steam . I believe Anand is intimidated by both these relatively super class GM's of the new era . But with the guys stating the mere complex thing doesnt suffice , even I lose to strong players due to complex but well they are strong and unrelenting which makes me give up ! Any thoughts from fans ? Besides did Anand say anything on these games vs Carlsen ?
As for game 1 I have stated that Anand was better and winning but he didnt convert ( Magnus is a real figher of Kasparov class) . Game 2 he traded traded and after Nh4 and Qg6 structure it was clear that WHITE had no advantage whatsoever . Rybka evals started to become in blacks favour .... |
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| Nov-20-09 |
| you vs yourself: If Anand gets intimidated by every new great player that comes up, he wouldn't have stayed in top 3 for so long. He already faced and survived prodigies like Kramnik, Topalov, Ivanchuk, Kamsky. And last time I checked, Anand is +3 against Carlsen in classical. So, it's not intimidation. And a few blitz and rapid wins don't prove he's outclassed either. |
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| Nov-20-09 |
| tsj2000: Anand needs to play e4 openings as white if he has any chance to win against Topalov |
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