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|Jan-11-14|| ||Patriot: <Jimfromprovidence> Thanks for the post! 16...Nde5 really did seem odd at the time, but it also defends Ng4 so in short order it does something positive and makes it worthy of consideration due to the existing threat. This shows chess is like insurance--it's about options! Learning to find options like this is what I need to work on. And like you said, it threatens 17...Qxd4+ and mate soon. Anand must have examined 17.dxc5, 17.dxe5, 17.fxe5, 17.Nxf8, and 17.Bxg4. That's a lot to consider!|
<Black wants to play 19…Qh4 with the threat of 20…Qxh2#, but he can’t do this directly because if 19…Qh4 white has 20 Qh7+!, forcing the queen exchange. So black plays the subtle 19…f5!> 20.Qh7+ is a really nice move. And so is 19...f5!.
|Jan-11-14|| ||James D Flynn: OK 17.fxe5 loses to Qxd4+ but what is wrong with dxc5?|
|Jan-11-14|| ||Patriot: <<James D Flynn>: OK 17.fxe5 loses to Qxd4+ but what is wrong with dxc5?> How about 17...Qd4+?|
18.Kh1 Nf2+ 19.Rxf2 (else 19.Kg1 Nh3+ etc.) Qxf2 threatening mate on g2 and e1.
18.Rf2 Qxf2+ 19.Kh1 Qe1+ and mate next.
|Jan-11-14|| ||chesssalamander: One of the best games I've seen from Anand, and one of the best games I watched last year! Just astounding! 15....Bc5, 16....Nde5, 19....f5, and 23....Be3 just knock me out.|
|Jan-12-14|| ||devere: If Anand had played every game against Carlsen in this style he might still be World Champion.|
|Jan-12-14|| ||FlashinthePan: Am I right to suggest that Anand's lethal use of his bishops is somewhat reminiscent of Fischer's in that game?|
|Jan-14-14|| ||MarkFinan: Normally when I go through a game without an engine, I can still get a decent grasp of what's going on, what the plan is etc.. but I couldn't with this game! It's 22nd century stuff!?! Even the Bc5 move confused the engine! And yes. Whoever said that if Anand played like this against Carlsen he might still be world champ.|
|Jan-19-14|| ||Zuainedison: Its similar to Rotlewi vs Rubinstein, 1907|
|Jan-19-14|| ||john barleycorn: and similar to this one
Anand vs Kramnik, 2013
|Mar-13-14|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Aronian,Levon (2802) - Anand,Viswanathan (2772) [D46]
Tata Steel Wijk aan Zee (4), 15.01.2013
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 dxc4 7.Bxc4 b5 8.Bd3 Bd6 9.0-0 0-0 10.Qc2 Bb7 11.a3 Rc8 All well-known moves by now... 12.Ng5 [White has tried 12.b4 but after 12...c5! 13.bxc5 Bxf3 14.gxf3 Nxc5 15.dxc5 Rxc5 16.f4 Nd5 17.Bb2 Nxc3 18.Bxc3 Qc7 19.Rfc1 Rc8 20.Bxh7+ Kh8 21.Bd3 Rxc3 22.Qxc3 Qxc3 23.Rxc3 Rxc3 24.Bxb5 Bxa3 the draw is near, as in Topalov,V-Kasimdzhanov,R London 2012.] 12...c5! [A strong novelty. Anand stated that this was his preparation for his match vs. Boris Gelfand for the FIDE WC in 2012. Previously 12...Bxh2+ 13.Kxh2 Ng4+ 14.Kg1 Qxg5 15.f3 Ngf6 16.b4© had been seen in Wojtaszek,R-Negi,P Germany 2012. He also stated that he didn't remembered all the details in his analyses, but netherless it wasn't that hard to work them out!] 13.Nxh7 [13.Bxh7+ was the obvious alternative - Anand said that 'we found compensation everywhere'. A sample line could be 13...Kh8 14.f4 cxd4 15.exd4 Qb6© .] 13...Ng4! 14.f4?! [In view of what happened, I think that White should have opted for 14.h3 . But then 14...Bh2+ 15.Kh1 Qh4 looks quite fine for Black: 16.Be4 Bxe4 17.Qxe4 f5 18.Qxe6+ Kxh7 19.Qxd7 and now Black can force a draw with 19...Bb8 20.Kg1 cxd4 21.exd4 Bh2+ (or play for more with 21...Rce8!? ) 22.Kh1 Bb8= .] 14...cxd4 15.exd4 [After 15.Nxf8 Bxf8 16.exd4 Ndf6 17.h3 Qxd4+ 18.Kh1 Bc5! 19.hxg4 Nxg4 Black's attack should decide - the black queen will finally land on the h-file!] 15...Bc5! A great move, easily overlooked! 16.Be2? [Good or bad White had to opt for 16.dxc5 Nxc5 17.Nxf8 (17.Qe2 Qd4+ 18.Kh1 Nxd3 19.Qxg4 Kxh7 20.Qg3 a6µ) 17...Nxd3 18.h3 Qd4+ 19.Kh1 Ndf2+ 20.Rxf2 Nxf2+ 21.Kh2 Kxf8 , where Black has the more pleasant position but White retains fair chances to hold.] 16...Nde5!! [Anand doesn't seem to care about Aronian's pawns - his light pieces are dancing around them! Note that this is the third black piece under attack! Also that 16...Bxd4+ 17.Kh1 Nf2+ 18.Rxf2 Bxf2 19.Nxf8 Nxf8 would be 'just' better for Black!] 17.Bxg4 [17.fxe5 Qxd4+ 18.Kh1 Qg1+! 19.Rxg1 Nf2#;
|Mar-15-14|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I posted the CB analysis ... jic anyone was interested in that.|
|Mar-22-14|| ||Conrad93: What is wrong with 19...Qh4?|
|Mar-22-14|| ||shivasuri4: <Conrad93>, 19...Qh4 leads to 20.Qh7+, liquidating to a roughly equal position.|
|Mar-22-14|| ||Conrad93: How is it even roughly equal?
Black has two very strong bishops eyeing the kingside.
|Mar-22-14|| ||N0B0DY: ... is here to learn.|
|Mar-22-14|| ||shivasuri4: <Conrad93>, yes, but Black would also then be down an exchange. The two bishops compensate to a fair extent, but I doubt they would give Black a significant advantage, if at all.|
|Apr-05-14|| ||Subham Jain: Why Aronian not play 13.Bb5 or 13.Nb5
Why Anand play 15..Bc5
|Apr-06-14|| ||EGarrett: After 16...Nde5, black is hanging two pieces AND an exchange, and taking ANY of them will cause an immediate collapse for white.|
I've heard of poisoned pawns, but a poisoned Knight, Bishop and Rook, all in the same position...is just insane.
|May-08-14|| ||Going4Draw: No one seemed to discuss this, but why didn't white take bishop on move 16?|
|May-08-14|| ||perfidious: <Going4Draw>, see below, from three pages or so back in the kibitzing:|
<Eyal....after 16.dxc5 Nxc5 17.Qe2 Nxd3 18.Qxg4 Qd4+ 19.Kh1, 19...Nf2+?? (instead of Kxh7) is clearly a blunder. It's true that 16.dxc5 Nxc5 is relatively better for White than the game continuation, which loses by force, but Black still has the advantage there.>
Without poring over all eleven pages of comments, I am sure there is more on this in the foregoing.
|May-09-14|| ||Going4Draw: <perfidious>, thanks for the quick reply. |
My head was spinning, trying to look for a tactical shot that could create a major advantage. I forgot these are grandmasters that are happy enough with only a small positional advantage. After 16.dxc5 and a few minor major pieces off the board later, black's white bishop, knight, and queen is still pointing towards enemy camp.
|May-12-14|| ||Natalia Pogonina: Aronian - Anand was rated #1 on the ChessPro's hit list of the best games played in 2013:
|May-15-14|| ||mate4cast10: I don't see immediate mate after 24.Kd5|
|Jul-22-14|| ||Vinod S U: Brilliant game by anand, in this game aronian's first mistake was on 13th move Nxh7,, probably his last.In the post game interview anand had said that critical variation for white was Bxh7..!! and he didnt care for that as he had the counter play with cxd4,& also the strong bishop on B7|
|Jul-31-14|| ||yiotta: Well, as Tal said, "They can only take one at a time". Wonderful game.|
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