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|Jun-12-11|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Did in fact miss the game defense.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: <David2009> Excellent post, as usual. When I saw the game defense, my first instinct was 22.Qxd4 Rxd4 23.Rxe6?.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||hedgeh0g: Got it quickly, but I've seen this game before and the final combination is quite memorable :)|
|Jun-12-11|| ||bachbeet: I understand that the B at g2 is lost at move 25. What I don't get is why that caused black to resign. I don't see that White has a clear, quick mate after move 25. What am I missing?|
|Jun-12-11|| ||NGambit: Black is piece down with no compensation.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||hedgeh0g: <bachbeet> Not only will White be a piece up, but he has a very active rook and a strong bishop pair. White threatens Kxg2, Rb8+ followed by Ba6, Rxa7 and pushing the a-pawn, Bxh6, etc. Hopelessly lost.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||bachbeet: @SimonWebbsTiger
Thanks for the prompt reply. I see that it should be no trouble but I guess I'm the type that plays on hoping for a mistake by my opponent which might win back material. Of course, if that mistake doesn't come soon, I'd resign too. I just wouldn't have after move 25.
|Jun-12-11|| ||bachbeet: @hedgeh0g
Yes, you're right. I just would have probably resigned after the clear loss of the rook.
|Jun-12-11|| ||Once: <bachbeet> I think the level of the two players has also got something to do with it. With GMs of the strength of Anand and Lautier there really is no point in playing on a piece down. We lesser mortals might scrape a draw or lucky win out of such a position, but their level of technique is on a wholly different plane. They would rather save their energy for the next game.|
The other dispiriting thing about the position for black is that lots of his pawns are going to be gobbled up in the next few moves. White threatens two pawns directly and another two if the black knight or rook move.
Add to that the fact that the black king and knight are virtually in zugwang. White has the awkward threat of Rb8+ to try to skewer the black king and Rh8. So not only is black about to lose his bishop but he has to make a number of grubby little moves to stop more of his bits from going in the box.
All things considered, it's not surprising that black threw in the towel at this point.
One funny thing though. It's a fine puzzle and an excellent key move in 21. Bg6. But if the caption at the top is right, it is less than two months since this was a game of the day. A little bit too recent to be POTD perhaps?
Liked your handle by the way. Taken from a Cuck Berry/ Beatles song by any chance?
Just let me hear some of that rock'n'roll music
Any old way you choose it
It's got a <backbeat>, you can't lose it
Any old time you use it
It's gotta be rock - roll music
If you wanna dance with me
If you wanna dance with me
|Jun-12-11|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: @Once, bachbeet
the concluding line Anand furnished was 25...Bh1 26. Bb2 Re8 27. Bf6.
|Jun-12-11|| ||bachbeet: @Once
Thanks for the compliment on my nick. You're on the right track. The other musical connection is Bach and Beethoven.
I also understand what you're saying about the GMs versus us commoners.
|Jun-12-11|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: whilst in stats mode, 15. f3! N. It came in as the 7th most important novelty from issue 70, adjudged by the Informator jury. 15. Rg3 had been seen prior. That poor white squared bishop never got out alive after f3.|
|Jun-12-11|| ||bachbeet: Once: I guess there is another level to my nick. After all, Chuck Berry did write Roll Over Beethoven (which the Beatles also covered).|
|Jun-12-11|| ||Eduardo Leon: What a pity! I already knew this game, so I can't really count this as having "found" the solution.|
Threatening black's royal pair simultaneously. (22.xd4 and, if 21...xd1, then 22.xe6+ e7 23.(any)xe7 f8 25.xh6+ g8 26.xf7#) Black's reply is forced.
<21...e7 22.xd4 xd4 23.d3!>
Threatening black's rook and king simultaneously. Again, black's reply is forced.
And black's bishop is lost.
|Jun-12-11|| ||wals: Rybka 4 x 64
Looking good, 15.f3, =-0.07.
15...Bb4, +0.80. Best, Nxe3, =-0.07.
19...Rd8, +1.92. Best, Bh3, +0.81.
20...gxh6, +4.73. Best, Nxe3, +1.97.
23...Rd8, +6.35. Best, c5, +5.42.
25.Bd3, +4.95. Best, Bxf7, +6.29.
Black resigned after move 25.
TOTAL PENALTY: Black 5.67. White 1.34,
favouring White by 4.33, the end move
advantage being 4.95.
|Jun-12-11|| ||bundet111: how come black can't play 20. ...g6?
what can anand do if black avoids taking on h6?
|Jun-12-11|| ||BiggCojones: Whatta wild game by the Tiger of Madras!
Kudos to the reigning champ of chess!
Long live the KIng!
|Jun-12-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: 21.Bg6!! (I think Black gets mated if he taes the Queen.)|
|Jun-12-11|| ||M.Hassan: <sevenseaman>: Thank you for the excellent post.I did'nt even get close to your line "a" which when I study it now, see that Black Queen will be lost by the attack.
Nice work and thanks again|
|Jun-13-11|| ||TheBish: Anand vs Lautier, 1997|
White to play (21.?) "Insane"
I found the winning idea right away -- if I'm correct, it would be the fastest I've solved a Sunday problem ever (under a minute). A little analysis seems to prove it correct.
Pretty stunning, but whenever there is a discovered attack (in this case double/discovered), amazing moves like this are possible. Possible defenses:
A) 21...Qxd1 22. Rxe6+ Ne7 23. Rexe7+ Kf8 24. Bxh6#.
B) 21...Nxe3 22. Bxf7+ Kf8 23. Qxd4 (but not 23. Bxe3?? Qxe3+! 24. Kxe3 Rxd1) Rxe4 24. Bxe3 and Black must give up both rooks to stop mate -- 24...Kg7 25. Bxd4+ Kf8 26. Bxh8.
C) 21...Qc5 22. Bxf7+ Kf8 23. Kxg2! Qxe3!? (or 23...Nxe3+ 24. Bxe3 Rxd1 25. Bxc5+ Kg7 26. Bxe6+ with two bishops and an attack for a rook) 24. Qe1! (not 24. Bxe3? Nxe3+) and Black must lose the queen to stop mate.
|Jun-13-11|| ||Sastre: <bundet111: how come black can't play 20. ...g6?
what can anand do if black avoids taking on h6?>|
If 20...g6, White can still play 21.Bxg6 because 21...Qxd1 allows 22.Rxe6+ Kf8 23.Rxf7+ Kg8 24.Rg7+ Kf8 25.Ba3+ c5 26.Bxc5+ Ne7 27.Bxe7#.
|Sep-25-11|| ||Rubberbandman: I love the tactical cheek of 21.Bg6! in this game.
I still cant tell whether people overrate or underrate Anand on his game page on this site though..
Yet another excellent vishy game
|Oct-09-11|| ||Juninho: Bg6 !!!|
|Jan-24-12|| ||fokers13: David in your second continuation Rxd7 followed by Bxf7 instead of your Rb8?? wins.|
|Sep-03-13|| ||Nerwal: The backstory of this game is this : at the 1996 french championship in Auxerre, a game Bauer - Priť featured this line til move 15 when Bauer played 15. g3. Immediately after the game Hauchard suggested 15. f3 as an improvement. Priť started to analyze this line and published in the October 96 outcome of the french chess magazine Europe-Echecs a detailed analysis of the Bauer - Priť game, including an in-depth look on 15. f3. So in-depth actually that this analysis almost entirely anticipated the game Anand - Lautier, including the killer 21. Bg6!! (while Priť's analysis in Informator stopped at 19. xb7 ). The weirdest point is that Lautier decided to play the Scandinavian because he had looked at this opening with Priť and he actually had seen this analysis as Priť had shown him, but somehow he forgot this refutation...|
The only unclear point remaining is that we don't know how much Anand actually knew before the game, as he could well have opened Informator during his preparations, although Lautier playing the Scandinavian was unlikely. We have to take his word that he found 15. f3 (and the rest) at the board for it, although I don't see any reason to seriously doubt it. It's impossible to read and check (and remember !) all existing analysis, and a player of his class can certainly find all the right moves at the board.
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