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Caruana 
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Fabiano Caruana
Number of games in database: 937
Years covered: 1999 to 2014
Last FIDE rating: 2844 (2858 rapid, 2695 blitz)
Overall record: +303 -133 =343 (60.9%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.
      158 exhibition games, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (121) 
    B90 B30 B48 B42 B31
 Ruy Lopez (93) 
    C67 C65 C84 C92 C78
 French Defense (37) 
    C11 C18 C10 C05 C16
 Ruy Lopez, Closed (35) 
    C84 C92 C89 C99 C95
 Sicilian Najdorf (24) 
    B90 B96
 Caro-Kann (23) 
    B12 B18 B17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (78) 
    B42 B43 B40 B33 B51
 Ruy Lopez (66) 
    C78 C69 C80 C67 C92
 Grunfeld (50) 
    D85 D70 D90 D97 D86
 Slav (42) 
    D12 D10 D18 D11 D17
 Sicilian Kan (34) 
    B42 B43 B41
 French Defense (30) 
    C03 C02 C00 C07 C18
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Caruana vs E Berg, 2008 1-0
   Carlsen vs Caruana, 2014 0-1
   Caruana vs A Giri, 2012 1-0
   Karjakin vs Caruana, 2012 0-1
   Caruana vs Ponomariov, 2014 1-0
   Caruana vs Aronian, 2014 1-0
   Caruana vs Kramnik, 2012 1-0
   Caruana vs Carlsen, 2012 1-0
   Caruana vs Aronian, 2014 1-0
   Caruana vs Negi, 2011 1-0

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Corus (Group B) (2009)
   Corus (Group C) (2008)
   Reykjavik Open (2012)
   Sinquefield Cup (2014)
   London Chess Classic (Group D) (2013)
   Hogeschool Zeeland Tournament (2007)
   Russian Team Championship (2009)
   FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013)
   Russian Team Championships (2011)
   Cap d'Agde (2008)
   Aeroflot Open (2012)
   World Cup (2013)
   Tradewise Gibraltar (2011)
   Olympiad (2008)
   Chess Olympiad (2014)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Fabiano Caruana and the Bishop Pair by Lupara
   umyamin's favorite games by umyamin
   Ruy Lopez Closed(2) by Volcach
   Interesting Opening Lines by EruditeEgress
   large collection by 1d410
   personalstudy by 1d410
   2014 Sharjah GP/Sinquefield Cup/Bilbao by wanabe2000
   CARUANA'S BEST GAMES by notyetagm
   Game Collections by Jimmy W
   Ruy Lopez GTM by pbalak

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FABIANO CARUANA
(born Jul-30-1992, 22 years old) United States of America (citizen of Italy)

[what is this?]
FM (2002); IM (2005); GM (2007); Italian Champion (2007, 2008, 2010, 2011).

Preliminary:

Fabiano Luigi Caruana was born in Miami, Florida. He moved with his family to Brooklyn, New York, in 1996 and soon started playing chess. Under the tutelage of USCF National Master Bruce Pandolfini, he kicked off his tournament career at the Polgár Chess Centre in Queens. GM Miron N Sher started coaching Caruana when the latter was 8. Caruana made his first appearance in FIDE-rated tournaments in February 2002 when he was 9 years old, playing in the New York February Congress and soon thereafter in the Edward Lasker Tuesday Grand Prix. He then moved with his family to Madrid in 2004 to pursue a professional career under the guidance of coach IM Boris A Zlotnik. The Caruana family then moved to Budapest in 2007 where Fabiano would train with GM Alexander Chernin. He also trained with GM Pal Benko, when Benko was spending summers in New Jersey, and online with GM Gregory Kaidanov. (1)

He became a grandmaster at the age of 14 years 11 months and 20 days, the youngest-ever grandmaster from the United States, and also the youngest-ever from Italy (as Caruana holds dual citizenship).

Championships:

<Youth and Junior>: In June 2002, Caruana won the U-10 category of the Pan-American Youth Championships, thereby earning his FM title, and in November 2002 competed in the World U10 Championship held in Heraklio. He also competed in the 2004 U12 World Championship in Heraklio and at the age of 14 came =2nd at the Italian Junior (U20) Championship.

<Regional, National and Continental>: He achieved joint first places in the U.S. Eastern Open and the Italian Championship in 2006. In the latter, he tied with (then) four-time Italian Champion Michele Godena but lost in a rapid game play-off for the title. In 2007 Caruana won the Italian Championship with a score of +8 (9.5/11) to become the youngest ever Italian champion and then successfully defended his title in 2008 when he scored 8/11, a half point ahead of Godena with whom he drew in the last round. He did not compete in the Italian Championship in 2009 because of his commitment in the World Cup, but won again in 2010 and again in 2011, the latter with 10/11; he did not compete in 2012. He has competed in all European Individual Championships since his inaugural participation in 2008, but has not made the leader board in this event.

<World>: Qualifying for the World Cup (2009) as one of the six nominees of the FIDE President (2), Caruana’s inaugural participation in this event was quite auspicious. Rated 2652 and ranked number 81 in the world at the time, Caruana defeated Lazaro Bruzon (2619), Leinier Dominguez Perez (2719, world #21) and Evgeny Alekseev (2715, world #25) before falling to Vugar Gashimov (2758, world #6) in the fourth round rapid-game tiebreaker. Qualifying for the World Cup (2011) via his rating, he won his first round game against Russian GM Aleksei Pridorozhni and his second round game against Ukrainian GM Yuri Drozdovskij in the classical mini-matches, but lost in the 25+10 rapid-game tiebreaker in the third round to the eventual winner, Russian GM Peter Svidler. Caruana qualified for the 2013 World Cup on the basis of his rating, but he also participated in the 2012-13 Grand Prix series to select two Candidates for the 2014 Candidates Tournament. He played in the FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2012), where he scored 6/11 to place =4th and 80 Grand Prix points, in the FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013) where he placed =3rd to earn another 100 Grand Prix points, =2nd at the FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013) to add another 125 GP points to tot up a three-event total of 305 points (3) and needed to win the final Grand Prix event - the FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013) - outright to qualify for the Candidates Tournament 2014, as he was 165 GP points behind Shakhriyar Mamedyarov who was in 2nd place, and who had no further Grand Prix events in which to play. As it turned out, he placed =1st with Boris Gelfand (winning on tiebreak) to gain 155 points and place third in the Grand Prix series, which means he will be first alternate if one of the Candidates is unavailable for the Candidates Tournament in 2014.

Caruana also missed his opportunity to qualify for the Candidates at the World Cup (2013), an event he qualified for via his rating; when he defeated Akash G in the first round, Yangyi Yu in the 2nd round, Vladimir Malakhov in the third round and Julio Ernesto Granda Zuniga in the Round of 16 (fourth round) but was eliminated in the quarter final (round five) by Maxime Vachier-Lagrave.

Tournaments:

Caruana has been an extremely active tournament player since he started on that path in the Polgár Chess Centre at the age of 6. For the first few years he played in numerous domestic events in the US, especially in New York and the northeast of the US – frequently appearing at events in the Marshall Chess Club (during which time he beat the late Aleksander Wojtkiewicz at the age of 10 years 61 days, breaking Hikaru Nakamura ‘s record of being the youngest to defeat a GM in a USCF sanctioned event (4)) - but with occasional sojourns to foreign events such as the Youth World Championships in Greece, Pan American events in South America and First Saturday events in Budapest, all the while steadily accumulating ratings points. He first participated in the US Open in 2002, and also did so in 2003 and 2004.

His first victory at a FIDE-rated open tournament was first place in the First Saturday IM that was held in July 2005, a feat which netted him 83 Elo points on top of 43 points he gained with his 4th place at the Madrid Championships. When he won the First Saturday IM tournament in December 2005, he also gained his third IM norm and his IM title at the age of 13 years 4 months and 15 days. In 2006, Caruana won the 19th Moratalaz International Open held in August 2006 in Spain, and tied for first place in the 1st "Ascala de Henares" International Open in October 2006. In 2007, Caruana placed =3rd in the 2007 EU Individual Open Championship, won the Hogeschool Zeeland Tournament (2007) (aka Vlissingen chess tournament) when he drew with his last round opponent, former FIDE world champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov. He also won the First Saturday GM events in March, April and July 2007, winning his first 3 GM norms and his GM title a couple of weeks before his 15th birthday. Another event he won during 2007 was the FE Capo d'Orso held in Italy in May.

In 2008, he won Corus (Group C) (2008) impressively, two points ahead of his nearest rivals Dimitri Reinderman and fellow prodigy Parimarjan Negi. The year 2009 started with a win in Corus (Group B) (2009) although he took a small step backward at Biel International Chess Festival (2009) (4/10). However, 2010 saw him win the Biel Chess Festival (2010) in a field of fellow junior super grandmaster. He started off 2011 in the category 18 Reggio Emilia (2010), scoring 4.5/9 (+1 -1 =7) for 6th place, and followed this up with 7/10 at the Tradewise Gibraltar (2011), first place at the Airports Authority of India (2011) and suffered a momentary lapse of form to score only 4/10 at the Biel Chess Festival (2011). In October 2011, he came third in the 12th Karpov International (2011).

Caruana started 2012 with =2nd (3rd on count back) with 5.5/10 at the category 20 Reggio Emilia (2011) and followed up with =2nd alongside Magnus Carlsen and Teimour Radjabov and behind Levon Aronian at the Tata Steel (2012), scoring 8/13 (+4 -1 =8; TPR 2837). The latter result catapulted him into the top ten on the live rating list for the first time. He placed =4th (6th on tiebreak) at the Aeroflot Open (2012) with 6/9 and then survived a last round challenge by Yifan Hou to take outright 1st place at the Reykjavik Open (2012) with 7.5/9 (+6 =3; TPR 2777). He followed up in May by winning the 20th Sigeman & Co Chess Tournament (2012) and taking 2nd place (on tiebreak) in the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012) with 5/9 (+3 -2 =4; TPR 2820) behind Carlsen. His best results so far have been his victories in July 2012 at Dortmund (2012) and in September/October 2012 at the Bilbao Masters (2012) where he lost to Carlsen in blitz tie-breaks after sharing first place. In November 2012, Caruana drew all six of his games to place 3rd in the Double Round Robin quadrangular category 20 Kings' Tournament (2012) behind Vassily Ivanchuk and Veselin Topalov, respectively. 2013 started badly for Caruana, scoring only 5/13 in the category 20 Tata Steel (2013) at Wijk aan Zee. However, he recovered to some extent at the category 19 GRENKE Chess Classic (2013) by placing outright 2nd with 6/10 behind Viswanathan Anand, and then returned to full form in the category 21 (av: 2772) Zurich Chess Challenge (2013) with outright first, scoring 4/6 (+2 =4), including wins over World Champion Anand and the previous challenger for the title, Boris Gelfand, with a performance rating of 2898. At the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), Caruana equalized his lifetime score against Carlsen in classical games by winning their round 3 game to bring their personal tally in this form of the game to +2 -2 =5; he finished 3rd in this event, a point behind the winner Boris Gelfand and a half point behind the runner-up Magnus Carlsen. Subsequently he won the Kings Tournament (2013) with 5/8.

Caruana started 2014 with a solid 6/11 at the category 20 Tata Steel (2014), placing =4th behind Levon Aronian, Anish Giri and Sergey Karjakin respectively. He followed up with 2.5/5 to place 3rd in the category 23 Zurich Chess Challenge (2014). Caruana won the follow-up Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) to determine placing in the overall event, Caruana's result in the rapid lifted his final placement to =2nd with Aronian behind Carlsen. In April 2014, he placed outright second behind Magnus Carlsen at the category 22 Gashimov Memorial (2014), which was inaugurated in honor of the late Azeri GM Vugar Gashimov. In June he was =4th with 4.5/9 at the category 21 Norway Chess Tournament (2014). The following month he won a stunning victory at the category 19 Dortmund Sparkassen Chess Meeting (2014) with 5.5/7, 1.5 points ahead of the runners-up and moved into the "2800 club" by rating. September 2014 saw Caruana win arguably the strongest tournament in history, the Category 23 Sinquefield Cup (2014). In the most powerful display in the history of chess, he won the first 7 games of the tournament - against Topalov (twice), Vachier-Lagrave (twice), Carlsen, Aronian and Nakamura before drawing with Carlsen in their return game in round 8 (having missed a winning chance), whereupon he clinched first place with 7.5/8 with two rounds to spare ahead of a shell-shocked field, an unassailable 3 points clear of Carlsen. This historic result also lifted his live rating to near record levels, eclipsing all except Carlsen and Kasparov.

Rapid:

Caruana did not distinguish himself at the Ruy Lopez Festival 2008 in the seven round closed tournament where he scored only 2.5/7, but won the two-day rapid open tournament that followed with a score of +6 (7.5/9), a clear point ahead of the field. The 2008 Cape d’Agde was a knock-out closed rapid tournament organized into two round robin groups of eight players each, with the top four scorers of each group proceeding to the quarter-finals, the semi-finals, and then the finals. Caruana won his group but lost to Anatoly Karpov in a closely fought quarter final encounter. Immediately prior to the Zurich Chess Challenge (2013) in February, Caruana won the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2013), scoring 5/6 beating Vladimir Kramnik, Gelfand and Anand in their individual two-game matches. He placed =2nd with 10.5/15 at the FIDE World Rapid Championship (2014), half a point behind the winner Carlsen, but managed to retain his number one ranking in the rapid form of the game. He also competed in the FIDE World Blitz Championship (2014), but his 11.5/21 was insufficient to move his blitz rating by more than a point.

Team play:

Soon after moving to Madrid, Caruana participated in the Madrid Team Championships.

<Club competition>: Caruana played board 3 for the ShSM-64 Moscow in the European Club Cup competitions of 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2013 the best result being team and individual fifth place in 2011, and team bronze in the European Club Cup (2013) playing board one with his new team SOCAR. He played for the Italian team Obiettivo Risarcimento in the European Club Cup (2014). He and his team ShSM-64 were far more successful in the Russian Premier League, where he won individual gold and team silver in 2009 (on board 4), individual bronze and team gold in 2010 (board 4), individual and team gold in 2010 (board 3) and individual and team bronze in 2011. Caruana has also played in the Bundesliga (2008 and 2009); the Italian Team Championships (2009 & 2012), the Spanish League (CECLUB 2009), the Swiss Team Championships (2010 to 2012), the French Top 12 (2011) and the Greek Team Championships (2012).

<National Teams>: In June 2008, Caruana played first board for Italy in the Mitropa Cup 2008, a four-board team competition amongst 10 "middle" European nations. He scored +6 (7.5/9) winning the first board prize with a performance rating of 2810. In the same event in 2009, held in Rogaska Slatina in Slovenia, he lead Italy to a silver medal and won individual gold with 7.5/9. He played for Italy in the European Team Championships in 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2013, his best personal results being 4th on board 1 in 2009 scoring 5.5/8 and 4th on board 1 in 2013 when he scored 6/9.

<Olympiads>: Caruana represented Italy on board 1 at the 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2014 Olympiads.

Ratings:

Caruana was the world's top junior for 20 months, starting in January 2011. As of 1 October 2014, his rating was:

<Standard> 2844 (Italian #1; world #2);

<Rapid> 2858 (world #1);

<Blitz> 2695 (world #44).

Personal:

He currently lives in Europe and in Tarpon Springs, Florida.

Sources and references:

Wikipedia article: Fabiano Caruana; (1): Chessbase biography: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... (2): http://www.fide.com/component/conte...; (3) Wikipedia article: FIDE Grand Prix 2012%E2%80%932013; live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; (4): Caruana vs Wojtkiewicz, 2002


 page 1 of 38; games 1-25 of 938  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Caruana vs C Bean 1-023 1999 G45D31 Queen's Gambit Declined
2. Caruana vs R Hess 1-031 2001 Guaymallen PanAM-chJ U10 AbsolutoC57 Two Knights
3. Caruana vs S Iermito  1-036 2001 Guaymallen PanAM-chJ U10 AbsolutoC58 Two Knights
4. Caruana vs Wojtkiewicz 1-045 2002 New York September ActionB27 Sicilian
5. Caruana vs B Karen  ½-½27 2002 Nassau FuturityB27 Sicilian
6. B Karen vs Caruana  ½-½30 2002 Nassau FuturityC60 Ruy Lopez
7. Caruana vs J Langreck  ½-½53 2003 World OpenB30 Sicilian
8. R K Delaune vs Caruana  1-051 2003 World Open: Open SectionA16 English
9. Caruana vs E Tate  0-121 2003 59th NY MastersB40 Sicilian
10. Caruana vs R Ziatdinov 0-122 2003 World Open: Open SectionC53 Giuoco Piano
11. W So vs Caruana 1-027 2004 WYCC - B12B21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
12. Caruana vs S Farago 1-060 2004 FSIM JuneB04 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
13. S Kriventsov vs Caruana  1-040 2004 Marshall CC Saturday ActionB33 Sicilian
14. Caruana vs Yudasin  ½-½59 2004 120th NY MastersB53 Sicilian
15. Caruana vs P Prohaszka  ½-½37 2005 FSIM MayB17 Caro-Kann, Steinitz Variation
16. O Nazarenus vs Caruana  0-138 2005 FSIM JuneA16 English
17. K Laciner vs Caruana  1-021 2005 FSIM JuneD82 Grunfeld, 4.Bf4
18. O Katsuhara vs Caruana  0-141 2005 FSIM JuneA16 English
19. Tri Hoang vs Caruana  0-136 2005 FSIM DecemberA45 Queen's Pawn Game
20. L Eperjesi vs Caruana  ½-½27 2005 FSIM JuneD85 Grunfeld
21. Caruana vs S Farago  1-061 2005 FSIM JuneB03 Alekhine's Defense
22. E Kahn vs Caruana  1-044 2005 FSIM JuneA00 Uncommon Opening
23. Caruana vs J Brustkern  ½-½16 2005 FSIM JuneB40 Sicilian
24. Caruana vs R Torma  ½-½51 2005 FSIM JuneB50 Sicilian
25. Caruana vs B Lengyel  1-047 2005 FSIM JuneC24 Bishop's Opening
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Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: No.I couldn't.
Oct-21-14  kia0708: The same like sucking chrome off a tail pipe won't improve one's FIDE standings.
Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: <<I *personally* don't think Caruana has what it takes to be a WCC. I think something is missing that I can't put my finger on. If that's not good enough for you then I apologise for not jumping on this particular bandwagon, but no one here will ever change my mind about him.>>

A repost from exactly a month ago, for the benefit of Jim Bartle.

Oct-21-14  SirRuthless: Caruana is on his what, 5th 6+ round event in 2 months? The guy is a bit worn out. Lighten up on him a bit will ya? Carlsen has never had a result like Caruana's Sinquefield 2014 demolition. Caruana has a GREAT record vs Carlsen as well so losses to randoms will happen but he is still firmly the second best player in the world. I do believe he relies a bit more than some of the others on preparation but he is still ,if given time,the second most accurate player in the world and he deserves some leeway. It's one thing to have a bit of fun about his travails but this gloating is ridiculous.
Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jim Bartle: <Jim Bartle: Could you explain how losing chessgames reflects on a player's character?>

<MarkFinan: No.I couldn't.>

Then what does this mean, <mark>? <His last 6 games are 1 win 2 draws and 3 losses and he's lost 18.7 rating points. I want the people who were laughing at me for questioning his character to admit they were wrong about Caruana, and my superb judge of character, lol.>

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jim Bartle: MarkFinan: <<I *personally* don't think Caruana has what it takes to be a WCC. I think something is missing that I can't put my finger on. If that's not good enough for you then I apologise for not jumping on this particular bandwagon, but no one here will ever change my mind about him.>>

I find that a reasonable comment. But I don't think that reflects on his character, and certainly three recent losses don't, either.

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: Jim. You know about sports, all sports, so you more than anyone should have read this book before. I find it ridiculous that people are calling this era of chess the C-C era. He played one brilliant tournament, and now people appear to have found him out. Get him out of the opening on equal footing and he's "just" another super GM.

I can't put my finger on what he's lacking, my vocabulary is fairly limited compared to some people here, but I *know* something's missing.

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  john barleycorn: Anyway, we can now watch the MVL hype for a change. About MVL entering the absolute elite and just counting the days when he will push Carlsen from the throne etc. pp.
Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <MarkFinan> <Get him out of the opening on equal footing and he's "just" another super GM.>

I'm sorry but if you think that's all required to reach the level of a 2800+ player, then you're full of sh** and know next to nothing about chess.

You're starting to sound like a Caruana hater now. No sensible points to make.

<my vocabulary is fairly limited compared to some people here, but I *know* something's missing.>

How about what you're lacking a decent point? Stop trolling this board with your nonsensical posturing. It's completely boring and tiresome. And others who indulge your trolling/hating efforts haven't yet figured you out.

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <john barleycorn>

I don't get some chess fans. Caruana lost a single game. He won his last tournament. He's one every tournament he's played in since July and has *clearly* been the best player in 2014, better than the current world champ, Carlsen. The first player other than Carlsen who can stake claim to that since 2009. He broke the 2800+ mark, the youngest player to do so excluding Carlsen and now has the third highest rating ever. I'm not really big on the whole rating obsession thing but that's an amazing achievement.

I'm the biggest MVL fan out there but he's not achieved such an impressive rating and when he does I'll be the first one to praise him. Caruana will win the Chess Oscar this year and rightly so. His "hype" is fully justified.

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jim Bartle: Mark, I don't necessarily agree in this case, but you have a point. Maybe we have a different meaning for "character."

By your definition I assume you would say Rooney has a lot of character, because he's gotten so much from his innate ability?

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: And many in the chess world who aren't fans of the Magnus Carlsen's style of play or personality, or lack thereof, are more than delighted to see members of the younger generation catch up to him. Caruana on the other hand comes across as a far more likable individual and plays far more enterprising chess to boot. Yes, he's not as solid as Carlsen is but I'll watch Fabiano's games anytime over any Carlsen game which puts me to sleep.

Carlsen fans need to deal with the fact that he's yet to fully contend with members of the younger generation (and even his generation) and his record against them is not exactly dominant.

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: <fisayo123: <<I'm sorry but if you think that's all required to reach the level of a 2800+ player, then you're full of sh** and know next to nothing about chess.>>

If you knew who I borrowed that quote from then I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be running your mouth like you are! You're making yourself look like a buffoon who's butthurt over some chess player you don't personally know.. Im assuming you don't know him just like you're assuming I know nothing about chess. Time will tell. And I don't *hate* the guy, I don't hate *anyone* so please don't talk crap!

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: <<Jim Bartle: Mark, I don't necessarily agree in this case, but you have a point. Maybe we have a different meaning for "character." By your definition I assume you would say Rooney has a lot of character, because he's gotten so much from his innate ability?>>

Well without warning to get off topic on this page I think Rooney could have been our greatest ever footballer. He isn't of course, but his ability isn't in question. I think if he'd applied himself like Messi and Ronaldo do then he would have won a Ballon dor, he did come 2nd or 3rd in 08/09/10, not too sure, but leading up to the 2010 WC he was regarded as the third best player in the world. So I wouldn't say Rooney had "innate ability" and it's hard to say really. I don't know what Caruana is missing, I've said it before, I just know he's missing *something*.

Oct-21-14
Premium Chessgames Member
  MarkFinan: <john barleycorn: Anyway, we can now watch the MVL hype for a change. About MVL entering the absolute elite and just counting the days when he will push Carlsen from the throne etc. pp.>

Exactly! Chess fans are more fickle than football fans in that regards.I'm a fan of the game of chess, players come and go, so I find it nauseating when people jump on the bandwagon of a chess *player*. Look at Wes So?? He hates those guys who post on his page and I don't blame him because they do him more harm than good.

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <MarkFinan>

Like I said, full of sh** . I'm not "butthurt" I just detest bitter trolls such as yourself won't stop trolling other player's boards, neither is Caruana my favourite player. I simply detest it when people like you see it fit to troll the boards of a great chess player and lovely bloke such as Fabiano now that he's clearly on top of the chess world.

If you had any decent point to make whatsoever, you would have made it by now, but you get pleasure from belittling other players to big up your guy? That's so small and pathetic.

What exactly is your deal because it's gone beyond the realm of simply having an opinion. Seems like unbridled jealousy. I didn't see you here when Caruana just won his most recent tournament in Baku. An obvious tell-tale sign of a jealous, bitter troll.

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: And speaking of hype and fanboys, the most ridiculous and petty fanboys after the Wesley So fanboys are the Magnus Carlsen fanboys. I seperate them from genuine chess fans like the now inactive <frogbert> who was a Carlsen fan from the beginning and never did show spite for any of his main rivals. (though frogbert was prone to the odd brain-fart here or there).

These Magnus Carlsen fanboys are the most ignorant chess followers I've ever known. I doubt they even love chess, but are more lovers of individuals than the game itself. Most of them cropped up circa 2008-date, around the same time of Carlsen's dominance. When his dominance disappears, they disappear with it, like fanboys normally do.

They know next to nothing about the history of chess or great players of the past and seem to think Carlsen is god's greatest gift to chess when he is not. He's good but no Kasparov or Karpov or even Anand (yet) and I'll debate that with any of his fanboys.

Finally, this is not football or tennis. That sort of blind, ignorant tribalism is *NOT* welcome in the chess world. It's supposed to be a gentle-man's game so let it remain so. Mini-rant over.

Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: <fisayo123: <MarkFinan> Like I said, full of sh** . I'm not "butthurt" I just detest bitter trolls such as yourself won't stop trolling other player's boards, neither is Caruana my favourite player. I simply detest it when people like you see it fit to troll the boards of a great chess player and lovely bloke such as Fabiano now that he's clearly on top of the chess world.

If you had any decent point to make whatsoever, you would have made it by now, but you get pleasure from belittling other players to big up your guy? That's so small and pathetic.

What exactly is your deal because it's gone beyond the realm of simply having an opinion. Seems like unbridled jealousy. I didn't see you here when Caruana just won his most recent tournament in Baku. An obvious tell-tale sign of a jealous, bitter troll.>

So you are butthurt? Lol. Go back to sleep pal, you're attacking me with vitriol and anger because my opinion differs to yours. Try diazepam they work, lol. And once again.. If you knew who I'd nicked that quote from then I'd like to see you tell him he knows "nothing about chess" and must be a "jealous troll". I aren't even jealous of Kasparov, Fischer and Carlsen combined, buddy!

Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: Btw.. You said <you get pleasure from belittling other players to big up your guy? That's so small and pathetic.>

Who is "my guy" exactly??

Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: <<Sep-04-14 Caruana vs Carlsen, 2014
MarkFinan: I don't think I've ever wanted Magnus Carlsen to lose a game because he's by far my favourite player, but I really want Caruana to do this.. 8/8 ? Come on ✌>
>

The post of a jealous hateful troll? What do you think fiasco666? #Moron

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <MarkFinan> <<<<< Sep-04-14 Caruana vs Carlsen, 2014 MarkFinan: I don't think I've ever wanted Magnus Carlsen to lose a game because he's by far my favourite player, but I really want Caruana to do this.. 8/8 ? Come on ✌ >>>>> Well, you should have stopped there because your bitterness has been sifting through these threads recently with reckless impunity. It's about time somebody checked you for it because your posts on *this* board to getting out of order. It just reeks of hating now.

<What do you think fiasco666? #Moron>

Seriously? Are you 10? Maybe you are. That explains the pettiness.

Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: <fisayo123: <MarkFinan> <<<<< Sep-04-14 Caruana vs Carlsen, 2014 MarkFinan: I don't think I've ever wanted Magnus Carlsen to lose a game because he's by far my favourite player, but I really want Caruana to do this.. 8/8 ? Come on ✌ >>>>> Well, you should have stopped there because your bitterness has been sifting through these threads recently with reckless impunity. It's about time somebody checked you for it because your posts on *this* board to getting out of order. It just reeks of hating now>>

Are you serious??

Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: If you're serious then you're a complete nutjob! Haha, take something or drink something and calm down, princess, lol.

"Caruana lacks character"

"You're hateful, jealous and trolling with impunity rant rant rant rant rant!?"

Once again. Are. You. Being. Serious?

Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <MarkFinan> You're the obsessive nutjob with your incessant, gibberish posts here.
Oct-21-14
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  MarkFinan: Point out the gibberish?
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