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|Sep-11-17|| ||offramp: <tamar: ..."Gypsy" to me denotes unfettered travel, independence of thought, and self-reliance.>|
That sounds about right to me.
To me "gypsy" denotes the following:
Freedom of travel, caravans like Stromboli's in <Pinocchio>, men wearing red hankies on their heads and single earrings, Mercedes Benzes parked in cornfields, horses riding through projects, women in babushkas reading crystal balls, badly-tarmacked driveways, multi-coloured homemade waistcoats, pointy moustaches (especially on the men), huge weddings ending in massive fights, independence of thought, self-reliance and chequered one-week old Bermuda shorts.
|Sep-11-17|| ||cro777: From the Summer Spartakiad in Sochi, Russia chess players from Siberia are supporting Anton Kovalyov:|
|Sep-12-17|| ||tuttifrutty: <In fact, the right to wear the same unwashed vlastimils throughout a whole tournament.>|
Wearing the same shorts everyday for a year or decades doesn't mean it wasn't washed since day one....
|Sep-12-17|| ||Arconax: Kovalyov has returned home.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Arconax: He should learn some manners before venturing abroad again.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||SugarDom: He can't afford 10$ trousers?|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: FWIW, both Kovalyov and Zurab look pretty trashy for a high end tournament. Zurab's untucked shirt is especially galling for a tournament administrator. Regardless, it comes down to the rules in force per the dress code.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: Zurab is saying "You can't play Ke4! That is an illegal move!"|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: Kovalyov: "Oh yeah, what about Black playing 1...Ke6?"|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: After 3 hours of analysis with Stockfish in retrograde mode, I've determined the game went:|
1. d4 Ke6 (Anti-Wannabe Queenside Gambit) 2. Kd2 (Wannabe's Insistent On Continuing Queenside Gambit, Accelerated) Kd6 3. Ke3 Kd5 4. Ke4 clearly an illegal move, and thereupon Zurab got involved.
|Sep-13-17|| ||tuttifrutty: <He can't afford 10$ trousers?>|
He can...but that's besides the point. The point is Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code. Whether it's been washed or not is irrelevant. Whether he can't afford a 10 bucks pants is non of our business. Please take the IQ test one more time so we can determine if your score will improve this time.
|Sep-13-17|| ||wordfunph: It is more like the dress code violated him.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||SugarDom: <He can...but that's besides the point. The point is Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code.>|
Lol. And how do you know this? Did you read the FIDE regulation on the dress code?
|Sep-13-17|| ||JonathanJ: If Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code, there is no reason to kick him out or even make him change.|
Bullying him and using racial slurs to that end is despicable behavior and there should be dire consequences for Azmaiparashvili, although I'm pretty sure there won't be any.
That being said, Kovalyov's outfit is shameful, to say the least. The shorts aren't even the worst about it. The oversized hoodie, the ankle-high socks, the greasy hair... This is really not the proper attire for a world chess elite event.
|Sep-13-17|| ||Petrosianic: <there should be dire consequences for Azmaiparashvili, although I'm pretty sure there won't be any.>|
Partly because Kovalyov has shown absolutely zero inclination to file an Ethics Complaint against him. If even the victim doesn't care enough do do anything, why on earth would FIDE act?
<Bullying him and using racial slurs to that end is despicable behavior>
If it happened. It sounds like the kind of thing Zurab would do, but there's been no mention of any witnesses to the incident so far.
Kovalyov does not seem to have been too bright on this. Even if everything he says is true, he should have laughed in Zurab's face and done nothing. Even if he'd gotten forfeited, how would he be worse off than he is now?
|Sep-14-17|| ||JonathanJ: <If it happened. It sounds like the kind of thing Zurab would do, but there's been no mention of any witnesses to the incident so far.>|
But there are pictures of the dispute. Somebody has to have taken them.
|Sep-14-17|| ||alexmagnus: Funny sidenote: Azmaiparashvili himself violated the dress code for organizers.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||starry2013: Players are wearing all kinds of stuff from what I've seen.|
Petrosianic: <why on earth would FIDE act?>
To enforce their rules?
|Sep-14-17|| ||Petrosianic: Someone has to bring a complaint to their attention first to say that the rules were violated. They're not going to go looking for violations on their own. So far the only one that we know for sure behaved improperly was Kovalyov.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||PhilFeeley: <only one that we know for sure behaved improperly was Kovalyov> No. Azmaiparashvili surely was.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||Petrosianic: <No. Azmaiparashvili surely was.>|
IF there are any witnesses to back up Kovalyev's story, but we haven't heard of any so far.
|Sep-14-17|| ||tamar: <Petrosianic> Azmaiparashvili admitted calling him "gypsy" even in his own justication for his actions (around 5 minute mark). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94y...|
|Sep-14-17|| ||Olavi: It's just that experienced Zurab watchers, from the 80's on, tend always to give his opponent the benefit of the doubt.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||alexmagnus: Also, as I pointed out, Azmai himself was improperly dressed.|
<Dress Code for arbiters, organizers, FIDE official and representatives at FIDE events including Presidential Board meetings, Executive Meetings and Congresses.
Business casual (European standards), which means long trousers or pants, shirt, jacket, with or without tie (no t-shirts, no polo, no jeans, no sports shoes or sneakers or slippers, no hats or caps (except for religious reasons) and the equivalent style of dress for women. >
|Sep-14-17|| ||Amulet: <alexmagnus>
..so Azmaiparashvili is a gypsy too and he should have banished himself too, muttering to himself as he exits the building, " I'm a gypsy, I'm a gypsy".
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