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|Sep-12-17|| ||tuttifrutty: <In fact, the right to wear the same unwashed vlastimils throughout a whole tournament.>|
Wearing the same shorts everyday for a year or decades doesn't mean it wasn't washed since day one....
|Sep-12-17|| ||Arconax: Kovalyov has returned home.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Arconax: He should learn some manners before venturing abroad again.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||SugarDom: He can't afford 10$ trousers?|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: FWIW, both Kovalyov and Zurab look pretty trashy for a high end tournament. Zurab's untucked shirt is especially galling for a tournament administrator. Regardless, it comes down to the rules in force per the dress code.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: Zurab is saying "You can't play Ke4! That is an illegal move!"|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: Kovalyov: "Oh yeah, what about Black playing 1...Ke6?"|
|Sep-13-17|| ||OhioChessFan: After 3 hours of analysis with Stockfish in retrograde mode, I've determined the game went:|
1. d4 Ke6 (Anti-Wannabe Queenside Gambit) 2. Kd2 (Wannabe's Insistent On Continuing Queenside Gambit, Accelerated) Kd6 3. Ke3 Kd5 4. Ke4 clearly an illegal move, and thereupon Zurab got involved.
|Sep-13-17|| ||tuttifrutty: <He can't afford 10$ trousers?>|
He can...but that's besides the point. The point is Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code. Whether it's been washed or not is irrelevant. Whether he can't afford a 10 bucks pants is non of our business. Please take the IQ test one more time so we can determine if your score will improve this time.
|Sep-13-17|| ||wordfunph: It is more like the dress code violated him.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||SugarDom: <He can...but that's besides the point. The point is Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code.>|
Lol. And how do you know this? Did you read the FIDE regulation on the dress code?
|Sep-13-17|| ||JonathanJ: If Kovalyov didn't violate the dress code, there is no reason to kick him out or even make him change.|
Bullying him and using racial slurs to that end is despicable behavior and there should be dire consequences for Azmaiparashvili, although I'm pretty sure there won't be any.
That being said, Kovalyov's outfit is shameful, to say the least. The shorts aren't even the worst about it. The oversized hoodie, the ankle-high socks, the greasy hair... This is really not the proper attire for a world chess elite event.
|Sep-13-17|| ||Petrosianic: <there should be dire consequences for Azmaiparashvili, although I'm pretty sure there won't be any.>|
Partly because Kovalyov has shown absolutely zero inclination to file an Ethics Complaint against him. If even the victim doesn't care enough do do anything, why on earth would FIDE act?
<Bullying him and using racial slurs to that end is despicable behavior>
If it happened. It sounds like the kind of thing Zurab would do, but there's been no mention of any witnesses to the incident so far.
Kovalyov does not seem to have been too bright on this. Even if everything he says is true, he should have laughed in Zurab's face and done nothing. Even if he'd gotten forfeited, how would he be worse off than he is now?
|Sep-14-17|| ||JonathanJ: <If it happened. It sounds like the kind of thing Zurab would do, but there's been no mention of any witnesses to the incident so far.>|
But there are pictures of the dispute. Somebody has to have taken them.
|Sep-14-17|| ||alexmagnus: Funny sidenote: Azmaiparashvili himself violated the dress code for organizers.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||starry2013: Players are wearing all kinds of stuff from what I've seen.|
Petrosianic: <why on earth would FIDE act?>
To enforce their rules?
|Sep-14-17|| ||Petrosianic: Someone has to bring a complaint to their attention first to say that the rules were violated. They're not going to go looking for violations on their own. So far the only one that we know for sure behaved improperly was Kovalyov.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||PhilFeeley: <only one that we know for sure behaved improperly was Kovalyov> No. Azmaiparashvili surely was.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||Petrosianic: <No. Azmaiparashvili surely was.>|
IF there are any witnesses to back up Kovalyev's story, but we haven't heard of any so far.
|Sep-14-17|| ||tamar: <Petrosianic> Azmaiparashvili admitted calling him "gypsy" even in his own justication for his actions (around 5 minute mark). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94y...|
|Sep-14-17|| ||Olavi: It's just that experienced Zurab watchers, from the 80's on, tend always to give his opponent the benefit of the doubt.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||alexmagnus: Also, as I pointed out, Azmai himself was improperly dressed.|
<Dress Code for arbiters, organizers, FIDE official and representatives at FIDE events including Presidential Board meetings, Executive Meetings and Congresses.
Business casual (European standards), which means long trousers or pants, shirt, jacket, with or without tie (no t-shirts, no polo, no jeans, no sports shoes or sneakers or slippers, no hats or caps (except for religious reasons) and the equivalent style of dress for women. >
|Sep-14-17|| ||Amulet: <alexmagnus>
..so Azmaiparashvili is a gypsy too and he should have banished himself too, muttering to himself as he exits the building, " I'm a gypsy, I'm a gypsy".
|Oct-10-17|| ||offramp: I have just realised that Kovalyov's vlastimils are <identical> to Dude's vlastimils in <The Big Lebowski>!|
|Apr-16-18|| ||PhilFeeley: I like this defense of Anton from the CFC:
<Any random check of coverage on sites like Chessbase.com shows that jeans and tee shirts are worn by many of the other Grandmasters. One example of this is Grandmaster Aronianís cat tee shirt, which I will not criticize, but which does seem to me to be no less problematic from a FIDE dress code perspective than Antonís attire. If it tries to reframe this episode as a question of a dress code which is vaguely formulated and sporadically enforced at this tournament FIDE will make itself look ridiculous and hypocritical to all independent observers. If Anton saw Zurabís shorts at that September 7th photo opportunity in the presence of both the current World Champion and Georgia's former Women's World Champion, and remembering that there were no warnings or complaints from Arbiters before or after any of the previous four games when he had worn those pants at this World Cup, Anton could be forgiven for not anticipating that there would be a problem if he wore them again for a fifth game.
The future for chess in Canada appeared quite bright based on the performance of Anton up until the moment when Anton was inhospitably abused over his attire. If the Chess Federation of Canada which has been a good citizen of FIDE since the day of its founding can expect this kind of treatment within FIDE for one of its top players, in his shining moment, the brightest moment of his chess career, with the world spotlight upon him, who is then safe? I am certain I donít need to point out that this has brought a great deal of unfavourable attention to chess and FIDE in the worldwide press coverage. Please do not stoop to explanations which attempt to justify the unjustifiable. We can accept the idea that there can be a dress code for chess competition. Given everything that has gone on before and during this World Cup, we cannot accept that a young Grandmaster deserves to be distracted and insulted moments before a game that is part of the qualification for the World Chess Championship, merely because the organizer doesn't like his pants.
If there is to be a dress policy it needs to be clearly enunciated before the tournament and should be enforced for all participants. If chess is going to make inroads in the demographic groups which advertisers crave we must avoid the appearance of ridiculousness which this situation invokes. It is a pity that instead of focusing on the chess that was played we are focusing on a pair of shorts.
I think that a sincere apology to grandmaster Kovalyov from grandmaster Azmaiparashvili for this incident without qualification or blaming the victim of this outburst would be the first step required to move forward from this unfortunate situation. As Hal Bond said in his letter about this incident ďMr Azmaiparashvili's behaviour in this case clearly violated the rules and norms of FIDE.Ē Please do not send the message to the world at large that this is not the case and this behaviour is within the rules and norms of FIDE.>
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