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| Nov-18-04 | | Swapmeet: Anyone play or have an opinion on the 3. ... g6 line? According to the explorer its the second most played response to Nc3. I always play this line but lately I seem to be having trouble with it, because when white eventually plays Bg5 it seems very strong. |
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| Apr-16-05 | | chessnewbie: What do you guys think of the Halloween Attack? |
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| Oct-31-05 | | visceral infestation: Halloween attack is solving many problems for me. I use Nc3 to start and come across a similar position often. I'm not sure how sound the attack is, but at least it has some flare. |
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| May-19-06 | | Kwesi: Apparently, a refutation of the Halloween attack is (from above position) 3...Nf6 4.Nxe5 Nxe5 5.d4 Nc6 6.d5 Bb4! 7.dxc6 Nxe4 8.Qd4 Qe7 |
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| May-19-06 | | borisbadenoff: <Kwesi> You're pretty quick a saying that. Where is the refutation here?
I just play on with 9. Be3 |
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| May-19-06 | | ganstaman: I don't know, I've played the Halloween Gambit for a while. To me, it seems that black wins as long as he doesn't blunder away his extra piece. Otherwise, I think he can hold on to it and win an easy game once white's attack dies down. As white, the variation I hate the most is 4. Nxe5 Nxe5 5. d4 Ng6 6. e5 Ng8 etc. White then plays Qf3 and Bc4, but nothing really comes of it. Black just plays ...d5 and ...Be6, if memory serves me correctly. There's really no reason not to fully accept the gambit unless you are that unsure of your defensive play (but then you probably never stood much chance to begin with -- believe in yourself!). |
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May-21-06
 | | WTHarvey: Here are 10 puzzles from Three Knights Game miniatures: http://www.wtharvey.com/c46.html What's the best move? |
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| Sep-04-06 | | Robin01: After the following line, 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Bc5, white played g3. Does anyone know whether this is good for white? What is black's best continuation now? Thanks. |
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| Sep-04-06 | | NateDawg: <Robin01> It is unusual for White to fianchetto in the classical openings such as the King's Pawn Game. However, Black's best continuation after 1. e4 e5 2. ♘f3 ♘c6 3. ♘c3 ♗c5 4. g3 is probably simply 4...♘f6. Then after 5. ♗g2 d6 6. d3 0-0 7. 0-0, Fritz 9 evaluates the position as = (-0.17). |
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| Sep-05-06 | | Robin01: I appreciate the answer. Thanks. |
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| Oct-31-06 | | Castle In The Sky: The Halloween Attack is one of my favorite blitz game openings. You sac a knight for a lot of initiative. I have won a large number of games in under 20 moves using the Attack. White's ideas are to try to get your pawn to d6, prevent black from castling and develop a blistering center attack. In longer games, many times, my opponent has returned the piece plus to try to develop. |
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| Oct-31-06 | | WarmasterKron: I like the Halloween Attack, even though I've never won a game with it! It's about the only interesting thing that can come out of a Four Knights, really. |
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| Feb-23-09 | | WhiteRook48: actually the best way to avoid the 4 knights opening is to play the Sicilian Defense! |
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| Apr-30-09 | | WhiteRook48: are there any games from this opening continuing 3...Nf6 4 Bc4 Nxe4! ? |
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| Nov-23-10 | | Monoceros: I recently stumbled into a Three Knights Opening in a casual game, tried the 3...g6 line, and after 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Nge7 6. Bg5 I got torn open on the Kingside, although my opponent mishandled the attack and permitted me to survive. I've never had much luck as Black with Kingside fianchettos in open games, e.g. Larsen's line in the Philidor; one or two reasonable-looking but weak moves and I get ripped to shreds. |
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| Nov-23-10 | | parisattack: <Monoceros: I recently stumbled into a Three Knights Opening in a casual game, tried the 3...g6 line, and after 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Nge7 6. Bg5 I got torn open on the Kingside, although my opponent mishandled the attack and permitted me to survive. I've never had much luck as Black with Kingside fianchettos in open games, e.g. Larsen's line in the Philidor; one or two reasonable-looking but weak moves and I get ripped to shreds.> Interesting. I had the same unpleasant experiences with the 3Kn fianchetto and also Larsen's Philidor. Black's positions seem really very loose to me... I gave up the Open Game defences early on, went to Sicilian (Kan and Pelikan) and Robatsch (because I still liked the fianchetto in-and-of itself). |
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| Nov-23-10 | | Monoceros: <parisattack: Black's positions seem really very loose to me... I gave up the Open Game defences early on, went to Sicilian (Kan and Pelikan) and Robatsch (because I still liked the fianchetto in-and-of itself).> I normally play semi-open defenses, although I favor the Caro-Kann and (I'm a little afraid to admit) the Scandinavian. But if I've played several games with the same opponent I find myself thinking that maybe he's sick of seeing the same things from me, so I'll venture something that I'm not used to just for variety. I groaned inwardly a little when I saw 3. Nc3 though. |
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Mar-14-11
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Steinitz Variation
1.e4 e5 2.♘f3 ♘c6 3.♘c3 g6 |
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| Apr-14-11 | | Cruezchess15: Well when l played this line 1e4 e5 2Nf3 Nc6 3Nc3 Bc5 for the first time, l was beaten badly but then l realise why not play 4.d3 a6 5.Be3 Ba7 |
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| Oct-14-11 | | meppi: Against Halloween i have been playing an exchange sacrifice counterattack line as black. It is like this;
1.e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Nc3 Nf6
4. Nxe5 Nxe5
5. d4 Nc6 (haloween players as white usually like this line)
6. d5 Ne5
7. f4 Ng6
8. e5 Ng8
9. d6 (thematic white move establishing strong Halloween d-pawn) cxd6
10. exd6 - Qf6 (the beginning of the sacrifice variation)
11. Nb5 Nxf4 (lol)
Now most common is Bxf4 or Nc7+ both lead to the same position usually 12. Nc7+ Kd8
13. Nxa8 (white thinks they won) Bxd6 (grabbing white d pawn) Now if you see this position who do you like? It is true white is up the exchange but only as long as that horse on a8 can escape, if it cant and black can get the horse with b6 and Bb7 then black has 2 horse for 1 rook and 1 (or 2) pawns. Also i have been noticing that if white tries too hard to extract the horse from a8, black can get some nice attacks down the e -file and also lateral attacks with the queen and dark bishop along the lines of Qh4+, Qe4 and/or Qb4+ (if white plays Bxf4 which they often do) Kizbaters what do you think of this opening variation?! |
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Feb-03-12
| | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Three Knights
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3
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Mar-31-12
| | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Steinitz Variation
1.e4 e5 2.♘f3 ♘c6 3.♘c3 g6
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| Oct-19-13 | | Kikoman: <Opening of the Day> Steinitz Variation
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 g6
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Oct-31-13
 | | gezafan: I once played the Chicago Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nxe5) against a player rated 1750 in a tournament and won. It was a last round meaningless game and I did it for fun. The gambits where white gets a strong pawn center aren't as easy to play against as one might think. Here's another one. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nxf7. |
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| Jan-12-18 | | Petrosianic: <gezafan>: <I once played the Chicago Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nxe5) against a player rated 1750 in a tournament and won. It was a last round meaningless game and I did it for fun.> Never heard it called that. I always heard that that line was called the Irish Gambit. I've been looking at the various piece sac gambits on Facebook, trying to figure out which ones are remotely playable. The Rice Gambit is no good but got exposure because a rich guy's name was on it. The Opening Explorer is no use because all those lines except the Rice show a heavy plus for White. Mainly because they're rarely played and usually against much weaker players. I think Fischer claimed that the Muzio Gambit had been analyzed to a draw, but I don't remember the analysis. I feel like Black should win them all, but as you say, they're not as easy to play against as you'd think, especially if you're not ready. |
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