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|Feb-08-18|| ||harrylime: <Petrosianic: <harrylime>: <I've played thru the Karpov v Korchnoi 78' World Championship match quite a few times now .. EVERY GAME .. and gotta say it's painful ... lol >
No you haven't, Baldrick. Besides, you admitted to me you'd never played a rated game in your life. How would you know a good game from a bad one lol?>|
I've played thru EVERY game of the Karpov v Korchnoi 78 match and I'd rather be trapped in a lift with MISTER METHANE the human FART MACHINE ...
UGLY CHESS .. PAINT STRIPPING CHESS .. is Karpov v Korchnoi ! lol lol
And why ... WHY are you on this page MISTER Petrosian lover ?
WHY ??! lol lol
|Feb-08-18|| ||harrylime: Karpov is a great chess player . Absolutely. But in 1975 Fischer would have and could have rolled him over quicker than they make a Russian sausage in the Gulags ! lol |
And this is just over the board !
RJF is THE GREATEST CHESS PLAYER because like Ali he transcended his sport like no other.
It get's boring having to repeat all this on here but so be it.
|Feb-08-18|| ||john barleycorn: <Karpov, Kasparov, Korchnoi have absolutely destroyed chess by their immoral, unethical, prearranged games. These guys are really the lowest dogs around.>|
|Feb-08-18|| ||MissScarlett: Bobby would've crushed Anatoly in the handshakes.|
|Feb-08-18|| ||harrylime: Fischer was so far ahead of chess in the 1970's it does seem social media in 2018 is still coming to terms with this lol lol lol|
|Feb-09-18|| ||Petrosianic: <harrylol> We'll have to agree to disagree about whether you lied lol. There's no way that a guy who admits he's never played a rated game would know if those games were good or not. You're just repeating someone else's opinion and pretending it's yours. BUSTED! lololol roflamo|
|Feb-09-18|| ||Petrosianic: Here's the quote about Fischer claiming to have equalized against the Ruy Lopez.|
<"It was not the "old" Bobby who would have written about his favorite Ruy Lopez (in a recent issue of the American Chess Quarterly): "I have a line (and this is no joke) that absolutely equalizes against the Ruy Lopez . . . and in the name of progress I feel honor-bound to play it even though it will force a complete reorganization of my opening strategy." Incidentally, we wonder if Bobby is referring to the immediate 4...P-QN4 and 5...N-R4 that he played against Addison in the Championship. This is a pet line of the Russian grandmaster Taimanov. It may be significant that Bobby's first querey for a Manhattan Chess Club visotor, who entered the club with some very recent Russian Championship games, was "Have you got any of Taimanov's games there?">
So, if it was the b5, Na5 line he was talking about, he must have changed his mind and decided it didn't equalize after all. If he was talking about another line, he must have decided the same thing, since he never played it.
But the b5, Na5 line is actually worth looking at, since a) White probably won't have studied it much. And b) in my experience, at the club level White is often goaded into going for the unsound sacrifice 6. Bxf7? Black has to be ready for that, but if he is, he'll enjoy the game.
|Feb-09-18|| ||ughaibu: 6.Bf7 has been played by Spassky and Karpov: Games Like E G Reicher vs K Makarczyk, 1951|
|Feb-10-18|| ||morfishine: Hey <Petrosianic> you and <RcfM> have the same avatar|
|Feb-10-18|| ||RookFile: I always thought that the equalizing line Fischer was talking about was the 3...Bc5 lines that he played a few times. Don't remember where I got this impression from.|
This is one example:
Tal vs Fischer, 1962
|Feb-14-18|| ||MissScarlett: FIDE just got the Bobby Fischer treatment from UBS. Although it's not clear if they're intending to return the money.|
|Feb-14-18|| ||zanzibar: <Missy> points out a major development that could short-circuit the upcoming Candidates.|
FIDE's Ilyumzhinov is being accused of rendering aid to ISIS (or IS or ISIL or Daesh) by buying their oil in Syria (or more accurately, acting as middleman).
<Lausanne-based Fide's treasurer, Adrian Siegel, acknowledged the issue was "a serious problem" that had "severely damaged" the organisation's business dealings.
"After more than two years of Kirsan Ilyumzhinow's [sic] presence on the sanction list... UBS has announced that they will immediately close our accounts," he said in a statement.
"It was only a question of time until we face this serious problem," Mr Siegel said, adding that the anticipated "some problems" while they looked for a "new bank connection".>
FIDE saw this coming for a good while...
|Feb-14-18|| ||Petrosianic: Why would that affect the Candidates Tournament? The organizers are paying the bills, not FIDE.|
|Feb-14-18|| ||zanzibar: <<Petrosianic> Why would that affect the Candidates Tournament? The organizers are paying the bills, not FIDE.>|
How do you know this? Or rather - are you implying FIDE isn't involved in cutting the checks?
I admit I might be over-stating the case for effect (and conciseness) via the "short-circuit" phraseology.
But the referenced article mentions the upcoming Candidates also (though, admittedly, not as dramatically as me).
Still, it seems very natural to assume FIDE is administering the financials, even if the sponsors have already ponied up.
I think I can put to evidence of this, I think, but let me challenge you to provide evidence that FIDE doesn't need a bank account to run the Candidates.
|Feb-14-18|| ||Petrosianic: Generally the way things work is the organizers pay for the tournament and FIDE gets a cut of the action. Although it might be different if the organizers don't put up enough and FIDE has to kick in. I'd hope that's not the case for a Candidates tournament. Or it might be different if the organizers pay FIDE up front, FIDE keeps their cut and pays out for the rest. But nothing here says that the Candidates Tournament is in danger.|
|Feb-14-18|| ||zanzibar: <<Petrosianic> Generally the way things work is the organizers pay for the tournament and FIDE gets a cut of the action.>|
<Although it might be different if the organizers don't put up enough and FIDE has to kick in. I'd hope that's not the case for a Candidates tournament. >
No, we agree that sponsors are usually pretty trust-worthy, besides...
< Or it might be different if the organizers pay FIDE up front, FIDE keeps their cut and pays out for the rest. >
Isn't it a pretty safe assumption that this is how it works? Why wouldn't you think that?
(I need a link or some reference to understand why you wouldn't make this natural assumption)
<But nothing here says that the Candidates Tournament is in danger.>
But, obviously, if FIDE is acting as a trustee it receives the money from the sponsor up-front - then distributes the money to the players after.
So, if FIDE finds itself frozen out from its bank account, and without other banks willing to work with them - the Candidates could easily be affected.
It's unlikely to be the case - as I suspect Ilyumzhinov is likely to resign now that the full-court press is on.
|Feb-14-18|| ||zanzibar: OK, here's a good indication...
3. 8. 2 If a player withdraws after he has signed his contract or after the start of the tournament, he shall receive no prize money and
this money will be retained by FIDE.
It's from the FIDE Candidate Regulations, and seems fairly indicative that FIDE is handling the money matters.
|Feb-17-18|| ||Dr Winston OBoogie: You ever wondered what John Gotti thought about Chess and Bobby Fischer? Me neither but I was reading this book and I realized.. <That's> why I love chess... |
<Chess became a big craze in 1972 because Bobby Fischer and Boris Spassky were getting set to play for the world championship that summer in Iceland. The cold war was still raging and the match was getting big play in all the papers and on television as a face-off between the Russian grand master Spassky and the great American hope Fischer. Wiseguys got into it like everybody else. We all liked Bobby Fischer. Gotti called him the Al Capone of chess. Big Al was barely thirty when he took over as top guy in the Chicago Mob. Bobby Fischer was still in his twenties and he’d already worked over most of his competition like Capone with a Louisville Slugger. He’d won more tournaments faster than anybody else alive. Gotti used to quote him all the time: “The thing I like most about the game is crushing the other guy’s ego.” John knew a lot about the history of the game. Experts are always saying that chess is like war, but Gotti compared it to crime. He said gangsters who want to get ahead should play chess because it makes you think like a boss. It was a good way to develop your powers of concentration and learn how to see the big picture and think things through. He said chess gave players a way to learn the kind of mental discipline you need when you go out on a score. “You got to always use presence of mind when you rob,” was one of Gotti’s favorite sayings. He meant keep your focus, don’t let the adrenaline control you, don’t let fear mess you up.>
|Feb-17-18|| ||HeMateMe: the book by the hit man used by the Gottis (and also Jr. Gotti's wingman/bodyguard) is the best thing I've read about the Gotti family. This is the guy who might have been in on as many as 20 killings and countless beatings. He ended up fleeing to Brazil, forget his name.|
He made it clear that there is zero loyalty in the Gotti family for those who bring in money for them through robbery, hits, or drug sales. You get pinched, your on your own. Jr. Gotti was a complete clown who would have been killed early on if he hadn't been protected by his father's organization. He never took any blame for things that went wrong, other people always took the blame and went to jail.
|Feb-17-18|| ||RFW3: His name is Salvatore (Sammy the Bull) Gravano, and he was an avid chess player.|
|Feb-17-18|| ||HeMateMe: no, this isn't Sammy the Bull. This fellow, who I think was part Italian, part Portuguese, was more low key, not wired in so tight to the gottis. He was a free lance guy who did hits on the competition (rub out a drug dealer on a corner used by the Gottis) got to know them because he became Jr. Gotti's accomplice on jobs, to keep the dummy from getting killed or nabbed by the police.|
Gravano never got out of the country. He ratted out john Gotti and went into Witness Protection.
|Feb-17-18|| ||Dr Winston OBoogie: Mimi's right. It's not from Sammy the Bull's book it's from a book called "The Sinatra club" by a Gambino family associate called Sal Polisi. Gotti elaborates on his love for chess but I obviously can't post what he says here..|
< HeMateMe: the book by the hit man used by the Gottis (and also Jr. Gotti's wingman/bodyguard) is the best thing I've read about the Gotti family. This is the guy who might have been in on as many as 20 killings and countless beatings. He ended up fleeing to Brazil, forget his name.>
John Alite! I've spoken to him on the phone, he's a crazy <lying> POS although I do believe half of his story. You don't get photographed coming out of the house of the biggest mafia boss in the last 35 years unless you know him, no one got that close to Gotti.
But yeah I've interviewed John Alite for one of my YouTube channels. He's a real bad bad man!
|Feb-17-18|| ||HeMateMe: yes, Alite is the name, thanks Mark. He has his own book out. I liked his book because he doesn't sugar coat anything, admits he's a complete POS, but no worse than the Gottis.|
|Feb-19-18|| ||zanzibar: Chris Chase, author of Boston Globe's chess column, notes the UBS/FIDE difficulties, and asks:|
<Now, how does FIDE not only pay its bills but also pay the prize fund for the tournament next month?>
|Feb-19-18|| ||The Boomerang: 'Fischer was so far ahead of chess in the 1970's it does seem social media in 2018 is still coming to terms with this lol lol lol'|
Yep so far ahead he didnt even need to defend his title to be considered the greatest! Magical indeed!
All future GM's take note!
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