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|Apr-11-16|| ||harrylime: That bio above is scarily crap ! lol|
|Apr-11-16|| ||HeMateMe: Harry, would you still love Fischer if you were Jewish?|
|Apr-14-16|| ||Nonnus: Turning Down Bobby Fischer---
<One celebrity whose case I turned down was Bobby Fischer, who was training for his world championship chess match at Grossinger's, where my family and I were spending Passover. I received a note from Fischer asking me to meet with him. Since he grew up in Brooklyn and went to high school right next to the yeshiva I attended, I was anxious to meet him. He told me that he had heard that I was a good lawyer, and he wanted to ask my advice about an issue relating to whether he could copyright or trademark his chess moves. It was an intriguing question, and one that I would have been happy to research.
I told him that I would be willing to provide a legal memorandum to him on the subject, and he asked me whether I would be willing to do it without charge to him. I said, "Sure, I will provide you legal advice for free, if you would do me the favour of playing one quick chess match with my son Elon." He looked at me sternly and said, "I'm not a circus performer. I don't perform for children."
I looked him straight in the eye and said, "I'm not a circus performer either. I don't perform free legal services for ingrates who refuse to do a small favour for a young child who is learning how to play chess. Find another lawyer and pay him the going rate." He walked away. I never saw him again.>
"Taking the Stand: My Life in the Law" by Alan Dershowitz
|Apr-14-16|| ||virginmind: Wow!
|Apr-14-16|| ||HeMateMe: I read a book by Dershawitz. He mentions that one of his more famous clients was the 70s porn star Harry Reams. I'm guessing that isn't his real name.|
|Apr-14-16|| ||TheFocus: <HeMateme> <I'm guessing that isn't his real name.>|
Real name was Wilber Reams.
|Apr-14-16|| ||MissScarlett: The best one can say for Dershowitz's story is that it might be true, or, at least, parts of it might be true.|
|Apr-14-16|| ||HeMateMe: This is the age of fast information. Surely there is a chess geek out there that will search the internet for the Grossinger's guest register while Bob was there, to see if Dershawitz was there at the same time.|
It does sound like Fischer, though, to ask for something for free and give nothing in return.
|Apr-14-16|| ||morfishine: <HeMateMe:...It does sound like Fischer, though, to ask for something for free and give nothing in return> And where did you get this gross generalization from dude? Have you ever met Fischer dude? Do you know him or anybody that knew him dude? Look Dude, are you making this pointless and hence, totally irrelevant comment based off the tabloids?|
Maybe try a little research first, toss in some critical analysis and then look up the definition of the word 'objective' before you vomit out anymore hot air
|Apr-14-16|| ||HeMateMe: <And where did you get this gross generalization from dude?>|
I'm able to read, at the adult level.
|Apr-14-16|| ||Shams: <morfishine> You've got to be kidding. You're kidding, right?|
There's as much evidence for Fischer's sense of entitlement as there is for his chess ability.
|Apr-14-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Maybe the son 'Elon' is dining out on tales that Bobby Fischer once ducked out of playing a match with him.|
With the money being generated and world wide interest being shown in the coming match perhaps Bobby had an idea about wanting more control of the actual games that were about to be played.
The games were about to reprinted all over the world I can imagine Bobby thinking about getting copyright for them in his and Spassky's name.
Maybe some entrepreneur had suggested the idea to Bobby, a lot of people are still unaware that chess games are not copyright.
This had been tried in the past. Lasker tried to gain sole copyright of the games for his match v Capablanca.
one clause read:
"The games of the match are the property of Dr Lasker, who is at liberty to charge for the viewing of them and for their publication in any form he may deem to his advantage."
Capa disagreed but one Cuban newspaper did say to their readers they cannot reproduce a game because it was the property of both Lasker & Capablanca.
Personally I've always felt for the players in this matter.
I could download from here all of Kaprov's games. His life's work. Bound them up in a book, sell it and Karpov is not legally due one penny.
It's wrong. But it's how things are.
|Apr-14-16|| ||TheFocus: <Sally Sampson> <I could download from here all of Kaprov's games. His life's work. Bound them up in a book, sell it and Karpov is not legally due one penny.>|
Of course, Karpov could also do the same. He could even annotate a lot of them.
Then he could laugh all the way to the bank.
|Apr-14-16|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi TheFocus,
He should do. Especially his own games.
My point is even a non-player could reprint all his games and sell them.
We get so much pleasure from his and others games. They players spent 4-5 hours creating some wonderful works of art displaying their skills that took years of dedication to master and yet....
|Apr-14-16|| ||TheFocus: <Sally Sampson> It is true what you say. And it is deplorable for the people that played the game, that someone else can profit off of their work while they are alive.|
|Apr-14-16|| ||HeMateMe: There is a book of Karpov annotating his games, a small volume.|
Fischer thinking he could copywright his games is another of his drifts into fantasy world, along with building a giant house in the shape of a Rook, on the upper east side.
|Apr-14-16|| ||TheFocus: I could never live in a Rook-shaped house.
It would drive me crazy when I wanted to pee in the corner.
|Apr-15-16|| ||morfishine: <HeMateMe> Reading at the "adult level" obviously is no prerequisite to posting at the adult level, dude|
<Shams> One must research Fischer's entire life, from cradle to grave, to arrive at an objective opinion
To hell with tabloids or other's opinions
Good day sir
|Apr-15-16|| ||john barleycorn: I am not interested in Fischer's entire life as little as I am interested in the entire life of Gauss et al..|
When there is light, there is shadow. We need light and they have given plenty.
|Apr-16-16|| ||HeMateMe: sometimes I wish I could see internet posters in person, face to face. I'd like to see what makes them tick.|
And then, I start thinking "No, I don't want to see them."
|Apr-16-16|| ||morfishine: <HeMateMe: sometimes I wish I could see internet posters in person, face to face. I'd like to see what makes them tick. And then, I start thinking "No, I don't want to see them."> Same here, the point I try to make is for people to think objectively...it seems simple, but in fact its hard to do in practice|
Thats really all I'm saying
Good Day Sir
|Apr-16-16|| ||morfishine: Come on, on the Fischer Page?|
|Apr-16-16|| ||diceman: <john barleycorn:
I am interested in the entire life of Gauss>
While there were highs and lows,
in the end it was quite Gaussian.
Heck, it would have to be.
|Apr-19-16|| ||Est2002: I just watched a documentary on Bobby Fischer and by the end of his life he was clearly in need of mental help. A shame that one of the greatest ever went out like he did. I would like to think he would have met Kasparov at some point in his career if he hadn't lost his marbles. I think he'd have beaten Karpov in the 70's, mind.|
|Apr-24-16|| ||todicav23: http://en.chessbase.com/post/game-o...|
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