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Robert James Fischer vs Lhamsuren Myagmarsuren
"A Tangled Web We Weave" (game of the day Sep-29-2018)
Sousse Interzonal (1967), Sousse TUN, rd 3, Oct-15
Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07)  ·  1-0
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Robert James Fischer vs Lhamsuren Myagmarsuren (1967) A Tangled Web We Weave
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Jul-12-18  Ulhumbrus: <Howard: Fischer said (according to Evans' The Chess Opening for You) that he actually had spent more time on 13.a3 than on any other move in the game. He wanted to safeguard his queenside in case his kingside attack failed to go through.> Interesting, and possibly instructive. So Fischer did not want to gamble his queenside on a king side attack which he was not sure would succeed.
Jul-31-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc8....
Jul-31-18  Howard: So, 29.Bg4 would have forced mate-in-12, according to Stockfish ?! Never would have guessed !
Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: Here's Mig from Mongolia:

<https://www.google.com/search?q=LHA...>

lovely attack, finished off with the double check. Mig "got an offer he couldn't refuse."

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: <Howard: So, 29.Bg4 would have forced mate-in-12, according to Stockfish ?! Never would have guessed !>

I am very surprised as well. Here is the line that SF gives. It so similar that at first I could not see what the difference was.

Here iae the moves of the Stockfish mate in 12.
29.Bg4 dxc2 30.Rc1 Be2 31.Qh6 Qf8 32.Qxh7+ Kxh7 33.hxg6+ Kxg6 34.Bxe2 Rc3 35.Bh5+ Kh7 36.Bf3+ Qh6 37.Be4+ Kg8 38.Rxh6 Rxg3+ 39.fxg3 Kf8 40.Rh8#

What I found odd was that part of the sequence was that "defensive" 30.Rc1 move. I don't think many human would foresee that quiet move in the middle of a huge queen-sacrificing mate-in-12.
It is necessary to stop ...c1=♕, of course.

If you use a light-box and overlay the game continuation with the Stockfish variation, you'll see that after
29.Bg2
Black could have played
29...Qf8.


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..leading to the same moves but again slightly changed around a bit: 30.Be4 dxc2 31.hxg6 fxg6 32.Bxg6 hxg6 33.Rh8+ Kf7 34.Rxf8+ Rxf8 35.Qh6... There is no immediate mate, but Black is a long way behind on material.

Sep-29-18  Violin sonata: I remember Chessbase.com has been discussed about this opening, just a few weeks ago. There is a game that was played by Wolfgang Uhlman as black, which is black won. Anyway I'm just new here, so i can't posted a game with you guys, cause i don't know how
Sep-29-18  Ironmanth: Bam! Great little game; thanks chessgames!
Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: This is one reason I stopped reading most posts. You folks can't resist over-using that nauseating word>

Amazing post by my friend <morfishine> ;)

Read the entire amazing thing here:

Fischer vs Myagmarsuren, 1967 (kibitz #291)

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: I dedicate this song to <morf> - enjoy!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84z...

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  harrylime: This game by Bobby was played 51 years ago.

At the time HE WAS THE BEST CHESS PLAYER in the world.

Since then a lot of time has passed ! lol

But we can still take humble homage in the resident Grandmaster Guru's on this site who constantly try to find fault in Bobby's games...

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: Here's the article <Violin sonata> is referring to: https://en.chessbase.com/post/uhlma...

Uhlmann's <..Qe8> move looks like a resourceful defence. Highly recommended to all KIA <forofos>.

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  harrylime: <whiteshark: Here's the article <Violin sonata> is referring to: https://en.chessbase.com/post/uhlma...

Uhlmann's <..Qe8> move looks like a resourceful defence. Highly recommended to all KIA <forofos>.>

That's cool.

This game was played over 50 years ago!!

Are you SERIOUS posting up "improvements" re this game ??? lol lol

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: <Bobby Fischer Tribute T-Shirt> Great idea!
Sep-29-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 22 dpa

1. + / = (0.26): 24...Bb7 25.Nd6 Qf8 26.Bg5 Rcb8 27.Nxb7 Rxb7 28.Bg2 Rb2 29.Bxa8 Qxa8 30.Rac1 Ra2 31.Qg4 Nc6 32.Bh6 g6 33.h5 Rxa3 34.hxg6 hxg6 35.Bg5 Nb4 36.Be7 Qa5 37.Qh3 Nbd5 38.Bd6 Kg7 39.Kh2 Qb4 40.Ra1

2. +- (1.55): 24...Nb3 25.Bxg7 Kxg7 26.Qg5+ Kh8 27.Qf6+ Kg8 28.Nd6 Qf8 29.Nxf7 Qg7 30.Bxe6 Rf8 31.Nd6+ Kh8 32.Qxg7+ Kxg7 33.cxb3 axb3 34.Bxb3 Bxd3 35.a4 Rfb8 36.Bd1 Kf8 37.a5 Ke7 38.Bf3 Ra7 39.Bg4 Ra6 40.Kg2 Bb5 41.Bc8 Raa8 42.Bf5 Ba4 43.Bxh7 Rxa5 44.Bf5 Rba8 45.Kh3 Bd7 46.Rxa5 Rxa5 47.Bxd7 Kxd7 48.Kg4

3. + - (1.84): 24...g6 25.Qg5 Nxe4 26.Rxe4 Bb7 27.Rf4 Rc7 28.h5 Rac8 29.Qh6 Qf8 30.Qxf8+ Kxf8 31.hxg6 hxg6 32.Rh4 Ke8 33.Rb1 Bd5 34.Rb5 Ra7 35.Rh7 Nc6 36.Rb6 Rac7 37.Bf1 Bf3 38.Bg2 Bd5 39.Bxd5 exd5 40.Kg2 c4 41.f3 Kd7 42.Rxf7+ Ke6 43.Rxc7 Rxc7 44.f4 Rc8

4. + - (1.98): 24...Nxe4 25.Rxe4 g6 26.Qg5 Bb7 27.Rf4 Rc7 28.h5 Rac8 29.Qh6 Qf8 30.Qxf8+ Kxf8 31.hxg6 hxg6 32.Rh4 Ke8 33.Rb1 Bd5 34.Rb5 Ra7 35.Rh7 Nc6 36.Rb6 Rac7 37.Bf1 Bf3 38.Bg2 Bd5 39.Bxd5 exd5 40.Kg2 c4 41.f3 Kd7 42.Rxf7+ Ke6 43.Rxc7 Rxc7 44.f4 Rc8

2. +- (1.55): 24...Nb3 25.Bxg7 Kxg7 26.Qg5+ Kh8 27.Qf6+ Kg8 28.Nd6 Qf8 29.Nxf7 Qg7 30.Bxe6 Rf8 31.Nd6+ Kh8 32.Qxg7+ Kxg7 33.cxb3 axb3 34.Bxb3 Bxd3 35.a4 Rfb8 36.Bd1 Kf8 37.a5 Ke7 38.Bf3 Ra7 39.Bg4 Ra6 40.Kg2 Bb5 41.Bc8 Raa8 42.Bf5 Ba4 43.Bxh7 Rxa5 44.Bf5 Rba8 45.Kh3 Bd7 46.Rxa5 Rxa5 47.Bxd7 Kxd7 48.Kg4

Sep-29-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  harrylime: This game was played in 1967 ..

ALL the silicon input from you GM's on here cannot time machine back to 1967 when this game was played !

lol lol lol

Bobby was the best Chess player in the world at that time and there was no INTERNET. And NO COMPUTERS.

lol lol

Sep-30-18  Howard: It's debatable whether Bobby was really #1 as early as 1967, in my view.

If he'd qualified for the 1968 Candidates, Spassky, Larsen, and Korchnoi would have given him a run for his money--no doubt about it.

As for Petrosian, I'm not sure Fischer would have gotten that far.

Nov-03-18  Everett: Spassky was top-notch, hungry for the title and nearly unbeatable from ‘64-‘70. His only blip was the ‘66 match.

If Bobby sat for any particular reason besides mental illness during this period, it may have been due to the prospect of facing the very best version of Boris.

Nov-03-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  diceman: Fischer was smart.

He waited for the weak:

Taimanov
Larsen
Petrosian
Spassky

before he took the title.

Nov-06-18  Howard: The book Kings of Chess (1985) makes the assertion that Fischer may have indirectly paved the way for Karpov, stating that in 1974 Karpov's rivals such as Spassky and Petrosian, were never quite the same after being crushed by Fischer.

The book states that Karpov merely "stepped over the bodies of the wounded".

Questionable logic, on my opinion, but you never know.

Nov-06-18  Petrosianic: <Questionable logic.>

No logic at all, really. Just a wild claim. Both Spassky and Petrosian were playing in the Candidates into the 1980's.

Petrosian hit age 40 in 1969, and Spassky in 1977. It's no surprise that neither was quite as good as in their early 30's.

Even Larsen played in the Candidates in his 40's.

Dec-13-18  nummerzwei: In essence, Fischer's combination was already featured in 'The Art of Attack in Chess':


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Educational Example
Vladimir Vukovic, 1961

Play proceeds 1...b5 2.Qd2 Qe8 3.Re3 Qf8 4.Rh3 a5 5.h5 b4 6.g3 a4 7.a3 bxc3 8.bxc3


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Now going for the a-pawn with 8...Rab8 9.Kg2 Rb3 10.Rah1 Rc7 11.Qg5 Qxa3 fails to 12.Qh6 Qf8


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13.Qxh7+ Kxh7 14.hxg6+ Kxg6 15.Rh5 and mate.

Feb-24-19
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  MissScarlett: < "Lkhamsürengiin Myagmarsüren", he said. Not quite able to understand what he just heard, Bobby looked up and asked once more. "Lkhamsürengiin Myagmarsüren," his opponent repeated. This went on for a third time after which Bobby just shook his head and wrote A. Mongolian on his score sheet.>

http://twchesssafari.blogspot.com/2...

Feb-24-19
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <The unspeakable in pursuit of the unbeatable.>
Sep-19-19  RandomVisitor: After 13.a3 bxa3 14.bxa3 stockfish thinks that White can mount a powerful attack, but that Black - under best play - can improvise a drawing defense, although I don't think Fischer would play 16.c4:


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Stockfish_19091615_x64_modern:

<54/96 2:00:06 0.00 14...Ba6 15.Ne3 Nd4 16.c4> dxc4 17.dxc4 Nb3 18.Rb1 Nb6 19.Qe2 Bb7 20.Red1 Qc8 21.Bg5 Bxg5 22.Nxg5 h6 23.Ne4 Qc7 24.Qh5 Bxe4 25.Bxe4 Rad8 26.Ng4 Rxd1+ 27.Rxd1 Rd8 28.Rxd8+ Qxd8 29.Nxh6+ gxh6 30.Qxh6 Qd2 31.Qh7+ Kf8 32.Qh8+ Ke7 33.Qf6+ Ke8 34.Bc6+ Nd7 35.Bxa4 Qd3 36.Qf4 Nd2 37.h5 Kf8 38.Bxd7 Qxd7 39.h6 Qd3 40.h7 Kg7 41.Qf6+ Kxh7 42.Qxf7+ Kh8 43.Qf8+ Kh7 44.Qe7+ Kg8 45.Qxe6+ Kf8 46.Qf6+ Ke8 47.Qe6+

Sep-19-19  ewan14: Outside of the '' weak '' four Diceman mentioned I think only Korchnoi had a real chance against Fischer
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