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| rchczrms: <...his positional understanding was not as good as Smyslov's.> I can respect Kramnik's opinion but I certainly disagree. His might in positional play clearly was evident in the 1963 title match. If it were to compare Petrosian's and Smyslov's feel of the nuances of chess positions, Petrosian has an edge over the latter. |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| ewan14: Smyslov has the better individual game score against Petrosian |
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| Jun-24-09 |
| Petrosianic: <Smyslov has the better individual game score against Petrosian> ...And therefore this indicates <positional> superiority specifically, rather than some other kind of superiority? Ehhh, you lost me there. As with most conversations like this, they forget that players understanding of chess was not a constant throughout their entire career. Smyslov was older, so there was certainly a time when his positional superiority was greater. Here's a seminal game, played when Petrosian was 20 and Smyslov was 28. Petrosian vs Smyslov, 1949
Petrosian sometimes suffered from over-dogmatism in his early years. In this game, he tries to lay siege to Smyslov's backwards Queen Pawn, according to Nimzovich's principles. Suddenly, the weak pawn advanced, with 23... d5!. It was a very strong move that he wasn't ready to meet, and went down to defeat. Afterwards, he realized that "the book" had covered the situation, and he hadn't properly appreciated it. "In the event of an <INCORRECT> positional siege, the defender will break the siege at the strongest point of attack." So, Smyslov's positional understanding was certainly better in 1949, and probably for much of the 1950's also. |
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| Jul-02-09 |
| Everett: I've read in places that Petrosian himself considered his best chess to reside within the years 1958-1963. It would be easy to argue that Smyslov was at his best from 1952-1957. How does chessmetrics see things here? |
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Jul-02-09
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| parisattack: <Everett:> Chessmetrics seems to agree with you - but sees Petrosian's top years more as 1960-1965. Smyslov was deathly strong in the mid-1950s. I would have liked to seen a match between he and Reshevesky circa 1952 or so... |
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| Jul-02-09 |
| theagenbiteofinwit: Unzicker vs Petrosian, 1962 An interesting opening. |
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Jul-03-09
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| arsen387: A very interesting material posted by <myschkin> on Kasparov page <Garry Kasparov: Lessons Given by Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian
http://www.armeniadiaspora.com/js04... > |
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| Aug-13-09 |
| Lt.Surena: 25th anniversary of his passing.
We'd like to see another Petrosian Memorial Tournament to honor his memory.RIP Champ. |
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| Aug-22-09 |
| laskereshevsky: Petrosian: <In my younghood I was usual to sleep with the Nimtzovitch'es book "my system" under the pillow> ALMOST LIKE ME!....
I said ALMOST cause, having 2 pillows, i was usual to sleep with the My System under one and with another pubblication under the other... |
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| Oct-04-09 |
| The Rocket: Its interessting to note that when asked after the spassky match in 1972 how Fischer compared spassky to his candidates opponents Larsen, taimanov and petrosian, he said Spassky was the best.... I have always seen Petrosian as a stronger and more brilliant player than Spassky ever was. |
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Oct-17-09
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| Sem: I like to compare Petrosian with Tolstoy's General Kutusov in 'War and Peace'. Against Napoleon, the man of extreme will power (Michael Tal?), Kutusov does mostly nothing; he keeps evading his opponent, luring him more and more into the endless Russian steppes. Until it's time for a few swift winter attacks which break the by then demoralized French troops. |
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| Oct-18-09 |
| walker: <Sem> Very well said! |
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| Oct-19-09 |
| 13stitches: I think chessgames.com should upload a new photo for Mr. Petrosian. |
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| Oct-19-09 |
| ewan14: Do the statistics not say Spassky is better than Petrosian ? |
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Oct-19-09
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| Nezhmetdinov: <13stitches> No! That photo with its hep 70's vibe and look of utter misery (familiar to all chess players) on the face of the chap at panel bottom left is my favourite of all the CG photos. Plus Tigran (so I understand, I'd be very happy to be proved wrong as it is always pleasant when one's heroes turn out to be decent people) was quite the party loyalist/admirer of the soviet status quo/apparatchik/defecting Korchnoi-hater and the sight of him wowing/destroying the hapless jive turkeys/running dogs of boho New York always brings a smile.
NO I say! |
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Oct-19-09
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| Nezhmetdinov: <arsen387> that link is 404 now - can you help? |
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Oct-20-09
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| arsen387: <Nezh: ...I'd be very happy to be proved wrong as it is always pleasant when one's heroes turn out to be decent people> maybe Natalia Pogonina's words during one of the recent live commentaries can make you happy ;) <Natalia Pogomnina: ...Well, Petrosian, for instance, was very good-natured and kind. But, generally speaking, all this Soviet ideology & mentality prevented them from being the typical western "million dollar smile" celebrities. :-)>
Carlsen vs D Jakovenko, 2009 And about the link, it doesn't work for me either, but searching google for an article with the same caption, I guess this is the same article http://www.en.cigarclan.com/events/... |
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Oct-22-09
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| Nezhmetdinov: Thanks, chap. |
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| Oct-23-09 |
| Petrosianic: <ALMOST LIKE ME!....
I said ALMOST cause, having 2 pillows, i was usual to sleep with the My System under one and with another pubblication under the other...> I'm sure Hef would be proud (nudge, nudge). |
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| Nov-11-09 |
| Lt.Surena: ewan14 wrote: Do the statistics not say Spassky is better than Petrosian ? Petrosian won as many world championships as Bobby and Boris COMBINED and he did it back-to-back. What statistics don't you understand? |
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Nov-11-09
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| talisman: Petrosian displays his famous dry sense of humor when he says,
"okayee...the horsey moves this way..."
The response from the spectators was varied. |
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| Nov-19-09 |
| muwatalli: does anyone have a collection of petrosian exchange sacrifices? i've heard so much about them but haven't looked at any of them yet! |
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Nov-19-09
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| parisattack: Have you trolled the CG Sacrifice Explorer for Petrosian? Besides Petro - who are the most prolific exchange sac masters? Topalov would be one of them... |
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Nov-19-09
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| Eyal: <muwatalli> Check out Game Collection: Petrosian sacs the exchange. |
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Nov-19-09
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| Eyal: Btw, I've recently been involved in an attempt to collcet all of Fischer's exchange sacs at Fischer vs Larsen, 1971, following somebody's comment that "It's uncanny how many late middlegames / endgames Fischer goes into the exchange down only to end up winning". |
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