|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 5 OF 5 ·
Later Kibitzing > |
| Aug-20-08 |
| TheTamale: The great thing about Pachman is that he would give you a free piece every 10,000 points. |
 |
| Sep-18-08 |
| you vs yourself: What a cute combination by Petrosian. |
|
Oct-12-08
 |
| sleepyirv: This is what I always enjoyed out of Petrosian: the positional dominance (none of black pieces but a knight are taking part of this defense), a classic sacrifice for mate, and the quirky final tactic. When I was getting into chess, I really missed out on him- a poor move on my part. |
|
Jan-03-09
 |
| al wazir: I'm sure Petrosian didn't analyze all the possible continuations when he played 19. Qxf6+; he was just sure that something would turn up. But this really is a problemistic finish! There are lines ending in mates with  ,  , the lightsquare  , and two  s.How could <CG> pass up a pun on the tournament name, such as "Keep poking it until it bleeds"? |
|
Jan-03-09
|
| sleepyirv: <al wazir> I once spent something like 15 minutes just going through every continuation. I can't think of any other mating nets where the losing side had so many options that failed in so many different manners. |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| KKDEREK: Nc4 is just classy. |
|
Jan-03-09
 |
| cu8sfan: Very nice game. I just played through it with Guess the Move. I can say that I found 19. xf6 but failed to see 20.xg7. My continuation was 20.h3. )-: |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| Samagonka: To sacrifice or not to sacrifice the Queen, that's the question. |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: I don't get Fischer's annotations. Bg7? A problem move? I may be being stupid but how does that win? |
|
Jan-03-09
|
| cu8sfan: <WhiteRook48: I don't get Fischer's annotations. Bg7? A problem move? I may be being stupid but how does that win?> There's a mating idea involving h2-h4 and Bf3 or Bh3, depending on where the black King moves. Bg7 prevents Black from retreating via h6. HIARCS 9.60 calculates a mate in 4: 21... Rxd3 22.cxd3 Kh5 (22...Nf5 23.h4+ Nxh4 24.gxh4+ Kf5 25.Bh3# or 24...Kh5 25.Bf3#) 23.Bf3+ Kg5 24.h4+ Kf5 25.Bg4#. |
|
Jan-03-09
 |
| kevin86: Pachman is gobbled up by Petrosian in this game. No need for Inky,Blinky,Clyde etc... |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| dragomaster: I once saw this game two years ago and spoke about it to all my friend and lately forgot about it. needles to say but this game is a real pearl. |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| xrt999: What if 24.Bf3# wasnt an option for whatever reason?: if 21...Nf5, then 22.f4+ Kg4 23.Ne5+ Kh5 24.g4+ Kh4 25.Bf6+ g5 26.Bxg5# is forced. so is 25...g5 26.fxg5 without check, whatever black moves, there is no way to stop 27.g6#. |
|
| Jan-03-09 |
| xrt999: < WhiteRook48: I don't get Fischer's annotations. Bg7? A problem move? > He might have meant one of 2 things:
1.this is a real [good] problem move [ie CHESS problem or composition] to analyze and find the mate in 4, or any general position to study the various outcomes and learn from: a chess problem, as in the puzzle of the day. or,
2.he could have meant this is a real problem move FOR BLACK to deal with, since there is no way to escape mate in 4, unless white blunders. Not likely, therefore a real problem [difficult] for black. According to Websters, "problem" is defined as 1.a difficult or perplexing matter [as in scenario 2 above] or 2.a proposition to be worked out [as in scenario 1] above. |
|
Jan-03-09
 |
| Jimfromprovidence: I have not seen anything written about 18... Nd5.
click for larger view It looks like it limits the damage to an exchange loss after 19 Bxf8+ Kxf8. |
|
Jan-03-09
 |
| RandomVisitor: 11...b6 might be best for black:
click for larger view [+0.05] d=18 12.d4 cxd4 13.Nbxd4 Ba6 14.c3 e5 15.Nxc6 Nxc6 16.Qa4 Bb7 17.Be3 Ne7 18.Rad1 Bc6 19.Qa6 Nf5 20.Bd2 h6 (0:18.38) 30481kN [+0.00] d=17 12.Bf4 Qd8 13.Qc1 Bb7 14.Bh6 Bxh6 15.Qxh6 Nf5 16.Qf4 Qb8 17.Qc4 Qc7 18.d4 Nd6 19.Qc3 Nb5 20.Qc4 (0:08.23) 10842kN |
|
Jan-04-09
|
| RandomVisitor: Perhaps 11.c3 or 11.Nc4 were better:
[+0.11] d=21 11.c3 e5 12.a3 Rd8 13.Qe2 a5 14.a4 f6 15.Ne4 b6 16.d4 cxd4 17.Qc4 Nd5 18.Nxd4 Nce7 19.Qxc7 Nxc7 20.Nb5 (5:27.36) 577721kN [+0.05] d=21 11.Nc4 f6 12.Nfd2 b6 13.c3 e5 14.a3 Rd8 15.b4 b5 16.Ne3 cxb4 17.Qb3 Kh8 18.axb4 Rxd3 19.Ne4 Rd8 20.Rd1 Bb7 21.Nc5 (4:52.00) 523090kN |
|
| Mar-18-09 |
| Pawnage: I checked some earlier analysis with my computer, and Petrosian could have indeed sacrificed the queen one move earlier. Still, a very impressive combination, Bg7 is killer. It brings to mind Tarrasch's Plachutta (because they are both 'quiet' bishop moves that force mate). |
|
| Apr-01-09 |
| AnalyzeThis: This game is just ridiculously beautiful. |
|
Apr-16-09
 |
| dzechiel: <xrt999: < WhiteRook48: I don't get Fischer's annotations. Bg7? A problem move? > He might have meant one of 2 things:
1.this is a real [good] problem move [ie CHESS problem or composition]...> This is almost certainly what Fischer meant. 21 Bg7! resembles the key move of a chess problem, quiet, unassuming, but also deadly. |
|
| May-27-09 |
| tentsewang: 21. Bg7 Rd5 22. h4+ Kh5 23.Bf3# 1-0
Unique checkmate, I just love it ! |
|
Jun-18-09
 |
| OhioChessFan: <JFP: I have not seen anything written about 18... Nd5. > I thought the same thing when I played through the game. I'm feeling lazy today, so I decided to plug it into Fritz. The first thing I found was White could have played the Queen sac a move earlier. Anyway, Fritz has White play either 19. Nd6 or 19. Ne5 and Black is in trouble with the impending c4. Evals are about 2.30 and falling in both cases. |
|
| Jul-15-09 |
| sightlesswisdom: haha! excellent game... "It is to Petrosian's advantage that his opponents never know when he is suddenly going to play like Mikhail Tal." -Spassky ...Anyone know any other good Petrosian sacs? |
|
Jul-15-09
 |
| parisattack: There is Petrosian-Bronstein Amsterdam 1956...Although that one did not turn out quite as well for Tigran. ;) |
|
Oct-13-09
 |
| k009ris: I can assure you Petrosian did see and calculate it to the very end.His calculating skils were well known to say
Kasparov and Kortschnoi, both wrote about it.As for publishing pieces of computer analysis,why dont you quit that guys?We all have a chess program, none of them makes you any better chess player..I love guess the move database here ... way better than playing blitz or watching fritz calculating the lines.
cheers to all |
|
 |
|
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 5 OF 5 ·
Later Kibitzing > |
Annotations by 