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|Jul-02-16|| ||YouRang: <playground player: Something about this position just cried out, "Q x f3!" It doesn't pay to ignore that when you hear it.>|
Mixing the 3rd rank with the 6th is a dead give-away that you grew up with the old descriptive chess notation. :-)
|Jul-02-16|| ||YouRang: <An Englishman: Good Evening: What astounds me is this--Black's first 6 moves are all perfectly safe and sound, and yet after 7.Re1, he's in danger! He must play either 7...d6 or 7...e5 instead of ...0-0. Even 7..d5 has done well in the database.>|
Good evening. Hmm, I'm trying in vain to see the danger of 7...O-O?
|Jul-02-16|| ||The Kings Domain: One of those cases where I got the text move right at the first time but decided to change it in the last minute for I couldn't see the sense in the initial choice. My final choice was 19) Rf4. I missed 21) Bg7!. Brilliant closing touch by Petrosian.|
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|Jul-02-16|| ||morfishine: Too famous of a game to be a puzzle. It might work if you go with just the position and leave out the players names; but probably not since the move is so obvious anyways|
Long Live Petrosian!
Even though he's dead
|Jul-02-16|| ||Joseph Blackcape: Even if you don't know the game, 19. ♕xf6+ looks too tempting to pass with White's dominant black-squared Bishop and centre control and once you start analysing it, it soon turns out that once you play it, mate is just around the corner.|
|Sep-08-16|| ||PJs Studio: But his games live on morphshine! Although he did die young, he was past his prime|
|Sep-08-16|| ||perfidious: <YouRang....Mixing the 3rd rank with the 6th is a dead give-away that you grew up with the old descriptive chess notation....>|
As we English and Spanish-speaking players all did, well into the seventies.
|Sep-09-16|| ||Howard: Several of my (old) chess books are in descriptive, in fact.|
Remember the ongoing debate in Evans' column back in the mid-70's, as far as which notation was superior ?
CL&R was entirely descriptive through 1977, and then in 1978, it was a mixed bag---some of it was in descriptive, and some was algebraic. In the early part of 1979, probably the only part of it that was descriptive were the last 15, or so, games of Karpov-Korchnoi, 1978. Once that match was fully covered, it was entirely descriptive after that.
|Sep-09-16|| ||Petrosianic: The whole debate about which was "better" was silly, since International Notation was, by those standards, better than either Descriptive or Algebraic, but nobody was advocating it.|
|Sep-10-16|| ||Howard: Reminds me of a letter someone wrote to Evans during that aforementioned debate in which the reader pointed out that both systems were easy to learn, and then he added, "Learn both systems and shut up."|
Evans replied, "Tradition dies hard."
|Jan-07-17|| ||Sularus: nice sac.|
|Jan-07-17|| ||AlicesKnight: Familiar, but pleasurable to see again, as gems often are.....|
|Jan-07-17|| ||Abdel Irada: ∞
<perfidious: <YouRang....Mixing the 3rd rank with the 6th is a dead give-away that you grew up with the old descriptive chess notation....>
As we English and Spanish-speaking players all did, well into the seventies.>
In the mid- to late 80s, I played at Mechanics' Institute in San Francisco, a club with many colorful "characters."
Among them was a retired firefighter, Paul Vayssie (who, in fairness, was in his seventies). When he wasn't busy complaining about positional "chicken chess," he kvetched about algebraic notation and "alphabet soup."
|Jan-07-17|| ||ColeTrane: A rock hound like me loves this pun....|
|Jan-07-17|| ||RandomVisitor: Black is ok up to 11.Nb3
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<0.00/33 11...b6> 12.d4 Ba6 13.Bf4 Qc8 14.Ne5 cxd4 15.Nxd4 Nxd4 16.Qxd4 Bb7 17.Bxb7 Qxb7 18.Rad1 Rac8 19.Qd7 Rc7 20.Qd2 Nd5 21.c3 Rd8 22.Bh6 Bxe5 23.Rxe5 Rcd7 24.Rde1 f6 25.Rxe6 Nc7 26.Qe2 Nxe6 27.Qxe6+ Rf7 28.Qe8+ Rf8 29.Qe6+ Rf7
|Jan-07-17|| ||morfishine: Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place|
|Jan-07-17|| ||RandomVisitor: As mentioned earlier, 18.Qxf6+ works, as in 18...Kxf6 19.Be5+ Kg5 20.Bg7|
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+M7/46 20. ... Qc6 21.Ne5 Kh5 22.g4+ Kg5 23.f4+ Kxf4 24.Bxc6 Kg5 25.Re4 Kh4 26.Kg2 bxc6 27.Nf3+
+M5/46 20. ... Qxc4 21.bxc4 Nf5 22.Re5 f6 23.h4+ Kg4 24.Re4+ Kh5 25.Bf3+
+M4/46 20. ... e5 21.h4+ Kg4 22.Nxe5+ Kh5 23.Bf3+ Bg4 24.Bxg4+
+M3/46 20. ... Nf5 21.f4+ Kg4 22.Ne5+ Kh5 23.Bf3+
+M3/46 20. ... Nc6 21.h4+ Kg4 22.Ne3+ Kh5 23.Bf3+
|Jan-08-17|| ||offramp: When it comes to descriptive or algebraic <[the correct name is <standard>]> notation, it helps to be fluent in both. |
Here's an example where descriptive is better:
<A fianchetto is when you play P-N3 followed by B-N2.>
In algebraic that is
<A fianchetto is when one plays b2-b3 or g2-g3 followed by Bb2 or Bg3 as White, or ...b7-b6 or ...g7-g6 followed by ...Bb7 or ...Bg7 as Black.>
|Jan-08-17|| ||ughaibu: <Here's an example where descriptive is better: <A fianchetto is when you play P-N3 followed by B-N2.> In algebraic that is <A fianchetto is when one plays b2-b3 or g2-g3 followed by Bb2 or Bg3 as White, or ...b7-b6 or ...g7-g6 followed by ...Bb7 or ...Bg7 as Black.>>|
So, descriptive is better because one avoids mistakes such as "Bg3"? Or algebraic is better because you write "one" instead of "you"?
|Jan-08-17|| ||offramp: <So, descriptive is better because one avoids mistakes such as "Bg3"? Or algebraic is better because you write "one" instead of "you"?>|
LOL superb! That is why I don't use - in fact that that is why no one uses - descriptive! I have read magazines read by experts and there are ALWAYS error in descriptive. I am not joking, it is like one error for every three games.
|Jan-16-17|| ||Howard: Regarding offramp's point, it just goes to show that Chernev could be very superficial in his commentary. I'm surprised he didn't point that out in his TMICOCEP.|
|Mar-09-17|| ||Dirkster: Games like this remind me why chess can be so damn BEAUTIFUL!!!|
|Dec-14-17|| ||Penguincw: Looking in the archives, I see this game could be the first ever GOTD on <cg> (Jan/26/2002). Well, there could be others (and there probably are), but can't find evidence of so.|
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