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|Dec-18-13|| ||gars: <AgentRgent> Thank you. Now I know who the "idiot" was. In fact, Saemisch was a very good player in his own right.|
|Dec-18-13|| ||Petrosianic: <He would have been so totally ahhihilated by either of them that it would have stopped him publishing books and may even have led to his retirement from chess.>|
It didn't stop Bogo, and it wouldn't have stopped Nimzo either.
|Dec-18-13|| ||JimNorCal: Was Nimzo as good as Capa or Alekhine?
Did he play entertaining and instructive chess? Yes. Thanks for your contributions, Aron Nimzovich. You are part of what attracts us to, and keeps us playing, chess.
|Dec-18-13|| ||parisattack: < JimNorCal: Was Nimzo as good as Capa or Alekhine?
Did he play entertaining and instructive chess? Yes. Thanks for your contributions, Aron Nimzovich. You are part of what attracts us to, and keeps us playing, chess.>
Hear, hear! Indeed, while we have a lasting treasure of beautiful games from all three gentlemen, Nimzo's legacy extends some deeper, IMHO. He helped breath new life into the game when it was beginning to go a little stale.
And, of course, he was "Blessed with a catchy prefix" - Evans. ;)
|Dec-18-13|| ||Shams: <parisattack> For the thick among us like me, can you explain Evans' comment?|
|Dec-18-13|| ||parisattack: (Larry) Evans edited Modern Chess Openings (MCO) 10 (1965). In the introduction to the chapter on the Nimzo-Indian he led off with that comment about Nimzovitch.|
|Dec-18-13|| ||Shams: Ahh. I see. Yes, the short vowel/long vowel combo is punchy.|
|Dec-19-13|| ||AgentRgent: <offramp: He would have been so totally ahhihilated by either of them> I'm sure many thought the same of Euwe....
<it would have stopped him publishing books> And chess would have been much poorer had that been the case.|
|Dec-19-13|| ||Gypsy: Nimzo, of course, was proud to be more of a thinker than player. But his practical strength should not be totally mocked either: While Nimzo did have relatively big negative scores against <Capa, AAA, Vidmar>, he also posted positive scores against such as <Lasker, Euwe, Reti, Spielmann, Tarrasch, Maroczy, Janowski, Marshall, Mieses, Flohr, ...>|
(And he posted either tied or competitive-though-mildly-deficit record against <Duras, Rubinstein, Schlechter, Bogo, Teichmann, Bernstein, ...>)
All in all, a competitive record to be certainly be proud of.
|Jan-07-14|| ||ForeverYoung: to Gars: have a dictionary at hand to clear up a word once in a while. I mostly play through the games (laying off of the intros) and follow his notes. the games, by the way, are top notch!|
|Jan-21-14|| ||RedShield: Nimzo would understand: http://nypost.com/2014/01/20/furiou...|
|Mar-01-14|| ||john barleycorn: A nice read:
Aron Nimzowitsch. How I became a Grandmaster
|Mar-01-14|| ||john barleycorn: Nimzowitsch on Capablanca:
<The best consolidator of all times is surely Capablanca (he elevated the art of prophylactic maneuvering to unbelievable heights). But Capa is a sportsman, a man without nerves, with completely balanced psychics.>
|Mar-10-14|| ||offramp: I happened to be looking at the Kevin Spraggett page. Spraggett is currently rated 2557. He does not like <My System>.|
At http://canchess.tripod.com/Nonimzo.... he writes:
<[Nimzovich's] works are very famous, but, in my humble opinion, over-rated. I've read everything he has written (and spent a great deal of time thinking about what he said--I now regret having wasted my time), it is all very interesting and entertaining, but I think that, self-promotion apart, he almost never achieved in his tournament practice (i.e. his games) what he makes you believe he did in his books. It is really hard to find a game played from move 1 to the end where he even followed his own 'system' ! On top of this, his books are filled with many tactical oversights, and simply bad judgement. And a lot of the other stuff he wrote about is just pure 'technique'...and he did not 'invent' it, but he did try to make his readers believe he did...
Nimzovich was a great player ! No doubt about this...but his advice given in his books never even worked in his own time...not many players realize that his strength was due primarily due to his ability to play white ! With black he was a pigeon by comparison...and far too much of what he wrote was from the black side (again, he was trying to 'promote' the Nimzo-Indian -type systems). In fact, most of it is pure fantasy..
Had he stuck to the 'Réti' systems (i.e. the white side) in his books, then that might be another story..but then Réti's name didn't sound as satisfying to him as 'Nimzo-'.
There are some famous players who will swear by his books, this I acknowledge, but take my word for it, there are many, many more famous players who believe his stuff is second rate 'Eric Schiller ism'!
His name will always be associated with 'hypermodernism' and deservingly. But even most of the variations of the Nimzo-Indian defence that he played are known (and have been known as such for more than 50 years) to be simply bad. There is a famous game of his where he tried to provoke d5 by playing his rook to e6...just garbage ! The truth is that his position was already desperate, and he was willing to try anything...
This is not to say that he didn't win some nice games in the Nimzo... in fact he did play two or three really nice games (he was definitely a 2600+ player)...but they had very little to do with his 'system'... and most modern masters can do the same if they get the help that he got from his opponents !
I think that you will find it very difficult to find former 'Soviet' GMs to say anything nice about Nimzo's books; I think they mostly didn't like the very 'commercial' aspect of his books. And I think that maybe 'lack' of objectivity on Nimzovich's part played a role also..
Keene's book 'Nimzovich: A Reappraisal' is a very well written book, and amusing also. I recommend it.
But for most players I don't 'push' Nimzovich books...
ps but remember, Nimzovich fans, this is ONLY an opinion
IM Lawrence Day also commented'
<"I don't like Nimzo either.
Many of the ideas are ripped off from Tchigorin.
In those days, when he wrote, the idea was to raise fan money for a world championship purse.
Hence 'his' system, but the Soviets (knowing their Tchigorin) see thru the scam, imo">>
Scathing but reasoned criticism!
|Mar-11-14|| ||whiteshark: <Quote of the Day>
" The old dogmas, such as the ossified teaching on the center, the worship of the open game, and in general the whole formalistic conception of the game, who bothers himself today about any of these? "
|Apr-02-14|| ||Karpova: A nice article by Peter Anderberg of Harmstorf called 'Vor 100 Jahren: München 1906 – Nimzowitschs erster Turniersieg' of December 14, 2006 (100 years ago: Munich 1906 - Nimzowitsch's first tournament success): http://de.chessbase.com/post/vor-10...|
The game between Przepiorka and Nimzowitsch featuring the Riga variation has already been submitted.
Additionally, Rod Edwards' page: http://www.edochess.ca/tournaments/...
|Sep-13-14|| ||ljfyffe: The beauty of a chess move lies not in its appearance, but in the thought behind it --
|Oct-08-14|| ||RookFile: Baloney. Beauty is beauty. Reshevsky was a champ at winning ugly. Nobody tries to be like him.|
|Oct-09-14|| ||ljfyffe: Merely a quote from Nimzo...never said l believed in it!|
|Nov-07-14|| ||newhampshireboy: I love Nimzo's games and he really kept my love for chess alive. Thanks Nimzo!|
|Nov-07-14|| ||RookFile: Well, I like North Conway. Looking forward to another visit there someday.|
|Nov-07-14|| ||parisattack: Tempus fugit, Grandmaster. Your works and your ideas live on! Happy birthday to the stormy petrel of chess.|
|Nov-07-14|| ||TheFocus: Happy Birthday, Aron Nimzowitsch!|
|Jan-05-15|| ||Phony Benoni: Nov-07-13 <gars: My favorite Nimzowitsch quote: "why should I lose to such an idiot??"
I do not know who was the idiot and whteher these were the exact words, but this is the spirit.>|
Nov-07-13. <AgentRgent: The "Idiot" in question was Saemisch vs Nimzowitsch, 1925>
So that game marks the origin of the Nimzo-Idiot Defense?
|Jan-05-15|| ||WannaBe: No, that's the beginning of Nimzo-Now-Which Piece defence =))|
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