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|Apr-23-10|| ||Julian713: <Amarande> Great analysis, much appreciated! I would rather read a lengthy explanation like that than pore over the endless move sheets that analysts seem so fond of posting these days. I always felt funny having those particular doubled pawns as White, now I know why :D|
|Jun-03-10|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: <paul1959> is correct; in fact, by deferring 0-0 Black sometimes gains the chance to play ...0-0-0, ...Kb8 and ...Bc8, when White cannot bring enough pressure to bear on the b-file, and Black gets to hurl everything at the White King. This was Hubner's great discovery ca. 1970.|
|Jun-03-10|| ||al wazir: It doesn't seem right to see a Nimzowitsch victory without The Great One's usual self-congratulatory annotations. I'd love to read his explanation of why the maneuver Bc8-Ba6-Bc8 was necessary, rather than an immediate 29...Nh4.|
|Jun-03-10|| ||th3jamez: If you want to see some notations from Nimzowitsch you can find this game in his book 'MY SYSTEM'|
|Jun-03-10|| ||kevin86: Nimzo's play is so sharp that he can tie a contortionist in knots.|
|Jun-03-10|| ||al wazir: <th3jamez: If you want to see some notations from Nimzowitsch you can find this game in his book 'MY SYSTEM'>|
Thanks for that. I have the book (in the English translation by Philip Hereford, edited by Fred Reinfeld, with all moves in descriptive notation), so I looked up the game and found that Nimzowitsch says . . . NOTHING WHATEVER about the ♗ maneuver!
After 31. Re2 he does say of his next move, 31...Nh4, "Seizes his chance. Black's KP now needs to be defended. If he [i.e., Johner] had limited himself to purely defensive measures, as, say, B-Q2 [i.e., Bd2], a pretty combination would have resulted; namely 31. B-Q2, R-Kt3! 32. B-K1 Kt-Kt5 ch, etc."
So Nimzo analyzed something that never happened, which in fact depends on white's choice of the peculiar 31. Bd2, but saw no need to justify his apparent waste of three tempi.
|Jun-03-10|| ||chrisowen: It was a great fish trawl, white swallowed whole the patient build up. I naturally digest positional moves think harbour Qh7. Oh my days 3..Bb4 beds down for a slow struggle and Nimzo doesnt dissapoint. The nidocolous tendencies nesting whilst he brew a good spring in reguards to gum up white's water did not work. The black blow holes are open h and e mouth spat up victory. If only my prayers were answered instead of wailing against pawn walls.|
|Jun-03-10|| ||Marmot PFL: Nimzovich was genius, but also had some crazy ideas, for instance that it would have been better to learn chess later in life than he did (age 8). He thought that would have made him less of a one sided tactician and a better positional player. Frankly that makes about as much sense as saying to learn arithmetic later will improve your skill at geometry. In any case more games are decided by tactics than by positional play.|
|Jun-04-10|| ||TheFocus: Most kids nowadays are ready to RETIRE at eight years old.|
|Jan-11-11|| ||meppi: the really impressive maneuver in this game has to be 14. h5 - 15. Qf5 - 16. Qh7|
What a good way to set up an attack, using the h pawn of the castled king and bringing the queen behind it.
This plan pays off with 33. Bxh3, half opening the h file. Very good!!
|Jul-05-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I thought I had made a web page on this game ... but I could not find it when I went looking for it ... maybe it was one of those that were on the <<EXCITE>> network.|
|Sep-14-11|| ||perfidious: <Amarande: <Fulkrum: I wonder, is 9.Nd2 a questionable move? Shouldn't white push e4 and lock up the center>
To broadly state 'NO. NEVER.' is general reasoning in situations which require a concrete approach.
<....Nor is there really any room for White to obtain any new advantages - in a d5/e4 vs. d6/e5 pawn skeleton, f4 is virtually never good for White....>
There are exceptions to this generality as well, eg, when White obtains piece play to compensate for the weakness; when he can recapture with pawn, thus keeping Black's pieces from using e5, also keeping the possibility of a breakthrough with e4-e5; when Black is in no position to exploit the weakness of e5, and when tactical considerations enable White to play f4 to his advantage.
<...In short, the strategic idea of sealing the center in this position is, to put it mildly, an extremely faulty one for White, if not outright fatal.>
White will often be forced to close the centre in the short term so as to open the game later in these typical Nimzo-Indian middlegames, as Black will have enough counterplay to thwart any attempts to overrun his position early on.
|Jan-17-12|| ||Interbond: In the book "Neue Schach-Teste" -Euwe/Muhring from 1960 move 31 for white is Re1 not Re2. I guess Re2 is correct, but I'am not sure.|
|Aug-25-12|| ||backrank: <Interbond: In the book "Neue Schach-Teste" -Euwe/Muhring from 1960 move 31 for white is Re1 not Re2. I guess Re2 is correct, but I'am not sure.>|
31 Re1 is not a legal move, so I'm rather sure 31 Re2 is correct :)
|Mar-02-14|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I just took about five minutes ... and replayed over this game. (For the whatever time.) |
Gee whiz. I have seen it before, but you know what? It's freaking brilliant!!! (What else can you say? I ran out of adjectives.)
|Mar-02-14|| ||LIFE Master AJ: I should make a web page for this game.|
|Jun-24-14|| ||paramount: Nice game from Nimzo.
But 25...Rg7 is much inferior compared to 25...h4!!
With h4, black sacrificing a pawn but opening the g-file for the rook(s).
Best play for white is 26.fxg5 Rxg5 27.gxh4 Rg7...now the white position is HOPELESS, crammed, dormant, really have no counter attack. after Rg8 (doubling the rook), and Nf5, win would be easy for black.
Other responses 26.gxh4/g4/Qe2/Ra2/etc etc are really no help for white. S
Conclusion is with 25...h4!!, white should be lose in no time.
26.gxh4 gxf4 27.exf4 Nf5 28.Qf2 Nxh4 29.Ng3 Ng4+!! 30.hxg4 Nf3#
26.Ra2 hxg3+ 27.Nxg3 gxf4 28.exf4 Nhg4+ 29.Kh1 e3 (with threat of Nf2+) 30.f5 Bxa4! 31.Nf1 Bb3 32.Rb2 Nf2+ 33.Rxf2 exf2 34.Qxf2 Bxc4 (0-1 with black up 1 pawn and rook for a bishop, with f more active position).
I have to mention that the position after 25.Nf1 is very interesting, very good to practice your calculations, just what you have seen, i just gave the 3 lines of those combination and its really really challenging.
But dont rely much to my lines, there are inordinate lines that good to see with the fact that black is much more superior in that position, almost every moves would lead to the black;s win just dont make a very severe mistake, you'll be fine.
Last note, Nimzo's move 25...Rg7 is a BAD move compared to h4. But it is really ambiguous in terms of "bad move".
Rg7 is "decent" move if you are NOT CAOMPARING with h4. You can win with Rg7 (like Nimzo) but you have to sweat much more and take a long detour compared with the real deal h4!!.
|Mar-24-15|| ||offramp: I have annotated this game in great detail on the back of a Dutch tram ticket. |
If you want I'll post it to you.
But I have to have it back as I need to use the ticket next Thursday.
|Aug-20-15|| ||Honza Cervenka: 30...e3! seems to be an interesting alternative to Nimzo's chosen move. If white takes the Pawn, then black Queen invades his position with decisive effect, for example 31.Nxe3 Nxe3 32.Bxe3 Qf5 33.g4 (33.Bg2 Rxg3 ) 33...hxg4 etc., or 31.Bxe3 Nxe3 32.Nxe3 Qd3 33.Nf1 Bxh3! 34.Kxh3 h4 . After 31.Qxb6 black gives a beautiful mate: 31...Ng4+! 32.Kg2 (32.hxg4 hxg4+ 33.Kg2 Qh3#) 32...Nh4+! 33.gxh4 Qe4+ 34.Kg3 Nf2+ 35.Kh2 Qxh1+! 36.Rxh1 Rg2#. But other moves are hardly better, for example 31.Qc2 Ng4+ 32.Kg2 Nh4+ 33.gxh4 Bf5 , or 31.Bf3 Nh4! 32.Bd1 Qf5 33.Kh1 Qxh3+ (or simply 33...Qe4+ 34.Kh2 Nf3+ ) 34.Rh2 Rxg3! (the Queen cannot be taken for mate) 35.Nxg3 Rxg3 36.Rg2 Rxg2! 37.Rxh3 Bxh3 and against threats Nf6-e4-g3#/f2# or Nh4-f5-g3# there is no satisfactory defense. And 31.Rgg2 (freeing g1 for the King) allows 31...Ne4 with fall of Pg3 and decisive attack of black.|
|Oct-12-15|| ||Helios727: How would black proceed after 31. Qxb6 Bxc4 32. Rb2 ?|
|Oct-12-15|| ||keypusher: <Helios727: How would black proceed after 31. Qxb6 Bxc4 32. Rb2 ?>|
32....Bxf1 33.Rxf1 Rxg3 threatens the neat 34....Ng4+ 35.hxg4 hxg4#!
|Oct-12-15|| ||Nerwal: <How would black proceed after 31. Qxb6 Bxc4 32. Rb2 ?>|
White loses immediately there since g3 falls after a trade on f1.
|Oct-18-15|| ||Helios727: <keypusher> and <Nerwal> After 31. Qxb6 Bxc4 32. Rb2 Bxf1 33.Rxf1 Rxg3, does not 34. Bg2 hold? For instance 34... Ng4+ 35. hxg4 hxg4+ 36. Kg1|
|Sep-10-16|| ||Howard: In the book How to Open a Chess Game, Portisch states that this particular game had a great influence on him during the early part of his career.|
But, then, in Chernev's book The Golden Dozen he states that the game had a major effect on LARSEN during his early years.
Granted, the game may have influenced both players.
|Sep-20-16|| ||Howard: Somehow, it seems that once Nimzo posted his queen on h7, there wasn't much White could have done from that point. His game wasn't necessarily lost, but he was certainly cramped.|
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