| Jan-09-05 |
| Steppenwolf: Le Lionnais's "Les prix de beauté aux échecs" considers 18 Nh1 as the deepest ATTACKING move ever played! Keene, who annotates this game gives it a double exclamation mark (!!). I wonder if computer programs could find this move, as it seems so different from the usual algorithms (what programs should be looking for at this stage of the game). Anybody want to try feeding the position in a strong program? |
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| Jan-09-05 |
| samvega: Great game!! Good annotations by Keene, as usual. Thanks for drawing this to our attention. |
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| Jan-09-05 |
| samvega: There is a treasure trove on cg of annotated-but-as-yet-unkibbitzed Nimzowitsch games, some by Keene, some by Nimzo himself. Like tons. |
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| Feb-06-05 |
| aw1988: <ray keene> How strange! When I first saw Nh1!! I tried to replicate it in every game I played since then, as well. It seems Nimzowitsch has a mystical effect. |
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| Mar-21-05 |
| Ernesto7: <chessgames> Is it possible for you to post a link with Nimzowitsch's games that have been annotated? |
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| Mar-21-05 |
| marekg248: <Ernesto7> Maybe I'm mistaken, but did you mean this list? http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... All you have to do is search for all player's games with "with annotation" box ticked on home page. Hope it helps:) |
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| Mar-25-05 |
| Ernesto7: <marekg248> thanks a lot , it did :) |
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| Apr-07-05 |
| THE pawn: OH MY GOD! I'm just speechless, this game is absolutely astonishing! Nimzo is absolutely fabulous, his Nh1 move is nothing less than pure gold...I would have never, ever found this move...This is...wow! Say, could someone post additionnal information on Nimzo? I fell in love with his overprotection style, it's so nice to see his games. I've never seen anything like this...wow... |
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Apr-18-05
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| nasmichael: Thanks, <Ray Keene> for your comments--it is good to have another fan of the game (with better eyes than mine) with whom I may share these beauties of history. |
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Apr-18-05
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| nasmichael: <Steppenwolf's comments on Jan 09-05: 'Le Lionnais's "Les prix de beauté aux échecs" considers 18 Nh1 as the deepest ATTACKING move ever played!'> Attacking Backwards, says Steinitz, according to Chernev. (Correct me if I am wrong--I read a lot today). ;-) |
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| Jul-31-05 |
| fgh: As for 18. Nh1!!, Shredder 8 doesn't find it as the best move, not even after 10 minutes of thinking, but as the 11th best move, with a evaluation of +0.15 :-) |
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Aug-29-06
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| Resignation Trap: Nimzo was highly satisfied with his 34.b5! which wins elegantly, but the crude and obvious 34.Nf7+ wins just as easily: 34.Nf7+ Kg7 35.Nd8+ and now if 35...Kh8 36.Nxc6 bxc6 37.Qe5+ Qg7 38.Qb8+ Qg8 39.Qxb6 and Black can resign. Or if 35...Kh6 36.Ne6! and Black must shed major material to avoid getting mated in a few moves. |
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| Aug-09-07 |
| sanyas: 21...b5 would have obtained the advantage. 28... d7 holds. Also if 28...h6 29.g4 then 29...d6 should hold. |
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| Aug-09-07 |
| sanyas: 27.e1 wins outright. |
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Aug-09-07
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| Pawn and Two: At move 29, Nimzowitsch states: <If 29...Rxe5 30.fxe5 Qxf7 31.Ng5 Qg8 32.e6 Bd5 33.Qf4 with an easy win.> However, if in this line, Black should play 29...Rxe5 30.fxe5 Qxf7 31.Ng5 Qg8 32.e6 Bd8!, how easy is it then for White to win? White would have an advantage in Nimzowitsch's line, if he would have found the move 32.Ne4!. However, as this move leads to an ending with Bishops of opposite colors, with White having a pawn advantage, I am not sure if a win can be found for White. On the other hand, if Nimzowitsch had played the line he indicated he would have played, 29...Rxe5 30.fxe5 Qxf7 31.Ng5 Qg8 32.e6, then black could have played 32...Bd8!, with an equal game. |
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| Aug-10-07 |
| sanyas: <Pawn and Two> You are right, Nimzowitsch's analysis is very inaccurate. After 29...Rxe5 30.fxe5 Qxf7 31.Ng5 Qg8 32.e6 Bd8, there is little hope for a win. But after 32.Ne4! Qf7 33.Bh6+ Kg8 34.Nf6+ Kh8 35.Bf4 Bd8 (35...h5 36.Qg5 Qg7 37.e6 Bd8 38.Be5) 36.Bg5 f4 (36...Bxf6 37.Bxf6+ Kg8 38.Qxd4 Qd5 39.Qxd5 Bxd5 40.a4 and with so many pawns on the board White should win) 37.e6 Qe7 38.h3! wins. Alternatively after 32.Ne4 Black might play 32...Kh8. In that case White continues 33.Bg5 Qxa2 34.Qh6 Qb1+ 35.Kf2 Kg8 36.Nf6+ Kf7 37.Qxh7+ Ke6 38.Ne4 Qxd3 39.Qg8+ Kxe5 40.Bf6+ Kxe4 41.Qe6+ Kf4 42.Be5+ Kg5 43.Qf6+ Kh5 44.Qh8+ Kg4 45.h3+ Kg5
46.Bf6+ Kf4 47.Qh4#
But there is a much simpler win which everybody seems to have overlooked. In the event of 29...Rxe5, White simply responds 30.Ng5. Then 30...Re2 leads to 31.Qxh7+ Kf6 32.Qxg6 Ke7 33.Qg7 etc; while after 30...h6 there is 31.fxe5 hxg5 (31...Qxe5 32.Bb3 hxg5 33.Bxg5 with a winning attack) 32.Bxg5 Kxf7 33.Qh7+ Ke6 34.Qxg6+ Kd5 35.Qg8+ Kxe5 36.Bf4+ with an easy win. |
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May-13-08
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| Knight13: You don't see the great strategic master Rubinstein get beat like this everyday. |
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Oct-02-08
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| aragorn69: A. Nimzowitsch said to Marshall his favourite game was: <‘The one I played in the Dresden Tournament in 1926 against Rubinstein, who is, as you know, an extremely dangerous antagonist. I do not know any other of my important games which so well illustrates the <<principle of effective hindrance of the adversary’s forces, while at the same time securing the mobility of one’s own forces>>.’> Source: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Aug-26-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Nimzowitsch's revenge |
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| Oct-03-09 |
| WhiteRook48: Nimzo is a strategic master in his own right |
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| Oct-03-09 |
| psmith: 27. Qe1 appears to win much more quickly and certainly. In the game continuation, either 28...Qd7 or 28...h6 29. g4 Qd7 seem better, even equalizing. (Suggestions from Fritz 5.32 -- analysis by Rybka or other more advanced programs?) |
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Oct-03-09
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| ray keene: it is inevitable that modern computer anlysis will find corrections to classic games and variations such as this one-here 27 Qe1 seems to be a genuine improvement , but apart from that nimzo did ok in the game -some of his comments can be bettered but he seems to be winning anyway in those cases. indeed, nimzo found the winning idea based on Qe1 six moves later. as i have pointed out in my comments to tal v keller zurich 1959, we are bound to have to revise our opinions of virtually every classic game from the pre computer age which has not been checked by the modern engines-but of course such a resource was unthinkable when the old masterpieces were played. |
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