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Robert James Fischer vs Tigran Vartanovich Petrosian
"Mad TV" (game of the day Jul-20-15)
Fischer - Petrosian Candidates Final (1971)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Kan. Modern Variation (B42)  ·  1-0
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Jun-10-15
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  lost in space:


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shedder 12, d= 27/70

A: +0.82; 13. Re1 Qxa4 Nxa4 Be6 Bf4 0-0 16. Rac1 Bb4 Red1...


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B: +0,79; 13. Bb5 axb5 14. Qxa8 0-0 15. Qa5 d4 16. Nxb5 Bb7 17. f3 d3...


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C: 13. +0,59; 13. Be3 0-0 14. Rfe1 Bb7 15. Bd4 Rfe8 16. Qc2 Rab8 17. Rac1


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I think a perfect correct decision from Bobby to avoid 13. Bb5.

Jun-18-15
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  RookFile: A hacker like me would have bashed out 12. Bg5 rather than 12. Qa4+. After all, my Fred Reinfeld book says not to bring the queen out too early, and 12. Bg5 does pressure d5. Obviously Fischer had a more profound understanding of the position.
Jul-19-15  newzild: This classic has never been Game of the Day? Fischer's 22. Nxd7!, trading the strong knight for the bad bishop, took all of the watching grandmasters by surprise.
Jul-20-15
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  Phony Benoni: I can only assume that "TV" refers to Petrosian's initials.
Jul-20-15
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  offramp: Yes. The Mad refers to Fischer.
Jul-20-15  drtulio: I can't see the reason for 10. exd5 when he could have played 10. Nxd5 and avoided an isolated pawn. But I'm just a 1500 somebody...
Jul-20-15  thegoodanarchist: In the Fischer - Spassky world championship match one of the games was played in a side room, out of view of any spectators.

It was Fischer's first win against Spassky, and it was recorded on closed circuit TV.

I submitted that game with the pun "Bad TV", which I later withdrew. I can only hope that my pun was inspiration to someone else to come up with this pun.

If not, at least I can say that I tried :)

Jul-20-15
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: And check out this game from 1963. Fischer vs M Green, 1963

Does this mean Petrosian unknowingly walked into a variation Fischer had already demolished?

Jul-20-15  hedgeh0g: <drtulio: I can't see the reason for 10. exd5 when he could have played 10. Nxd5 and avoided an isolated pawn. But I'm just a 1500 somebody...>

10...Nxd5 certainly looks more natural, but you do have to consider what happens after 11.Be4.

This game is probably most famous for Fischer's exchange of "good" knight for "bad" bishop on move 22. When evaluating the exchange of pieces, rather than considering the value of the pieces exchanged, one should focus on the value of the pieces remaining on the board.

Jul-20-15  Travis Bickle: It was just too easy! lol
Jul-20-15
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  SpaceRunner: If Knight takes then

Fischer vs M Green, 1963

As Englishman points out!

Jul-20-15
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  john barleycorn: See also comments in the "Mammoth book of the world's greatest chess games", Stean's "simple chess" or "Karpov on Fischer" DVD's.
Jul-20-15
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  kevin86: Mate comes swiftly by Fischer!
Jul-20-15  newzild: I see that my earlier comment was prescient by one day!
Jul-20-15  Chessman1504: Finally game of the day!
Jul-20-15  Chessman1504: A classic game in which Fischer demolishes perhaps the greatest defender in chess history in seemingly effortless fashion. His sensitive positional judgement allowed for him to understand the value of Petrosian's bishop, and I would say this distinguishes great players. They have the ability to see the whole picture, so to speak. Idiots like me try to fill in details before even knowing what to look for in anxious fashion. Not so with Fischer and the other greats!
Jul-20-15  Olsonist: Kingscrusher does a nice job with this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwN...

Jul-21-15
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  offramp: I read that after Fischer's 22.Nxd7!!!! that Najdorf ran onto the street screaming; Tal tried to set fire to the board with a blowtorch; Bronstein rang the Argentinean High Commission and recited a Kurt Schwitters poem, and Larsen sat in the corner of the room saying Da-da da-da da-da...

This was ALSO the day of Hercules Test 350 in the Nevada desert. This was a neutron bomb, 15 times larger than Tsara Bomba, which was detonated at the exact moment that Fischer played 22...Nxd7!!!!!!!

Jul-21-15
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  diceman: <offramp: I read that after Fischer's 22.Nxd7!!!! that Najdorf ran onto the street screaming; Tal tried to set fire to the board with a blowtorch; Bronstein rang the Argentinean High Commission and recited a Kurt Schwitters poem, and Larsen sat in the corner of the room saying Da-da da-da da-da... This was ALSO the day of Hercules Test 350 in the Nevada desert. This was a neutron bomb, 15 times larger than Tsara Bomba, which was detonated at the exact moment that Fischer played 22...Nxd7!!!!!!!>

After Fischer's Nxd7!

...Morphy never played chess again.

Jul-21-15  Howard: A mystery for me regarding this game is exactly where was the point of no return for Petrosian ? In other words, when was the game lost for good ?

As impressive as 22.Nxd7 !! was, Petrosian reportedly still had small drawing chances even after that.

Jul-21-15
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  keypusher: <Howard: A mystery for me regarding this game is exactly where was the point of no return for Petrosian ? In other words, when was the game lost for good ?>

12....Qd7. Fischer missed the refutation but retained a huge advantage.

I'm teasing, a little, and this game is a strategic masterpiece just like everyone says. But the opening was a disaster for Petrosian. Turning your question around, although many have suggested better moves for Black along the way, it's really hard to think of anything that clearly would have saved the game.

Jul-23-15  Chessman1504: This is a game that highlights Fischer's true strengths. It left an indelible impression on me, simply because it let me see how well-rounded Fischer really was. Petrosian was no slouch, so such a "straightforward" game must be the work of a chess genius.
Jul-23-15
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  RookFile: As I recall, some said that 29.....d4 was a mistake. Not hard to understand why Petrosian played it, he didn't want the king to go to d4. White's bishop became a real menace after 29....d4, though.
Jul-23-15  Chessman1504: Yes, the activity of the bishop proves decisive in short order.
Sep-06-15  rea: I was somewhat dumfounded to learn that the loser of this game is merely the first of 3 grandmasters to be named Tigran Petrosian . . .
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