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|Mar-26-14|| ||maxi: <LIFE Master AJ> Well, we guys from that time wished the two things you said, AND that Yoko Ono and John had never met...|
|Mar-26-14|| ||maxi: <Petrosianic> Of course, there are many great Fischer games, filled with particular fascinating details. It's just that I always found the Steinmeyer to be interesting.|
I hesitate to give you a year, not being a psychiatrist, but, from the press releases of the time that I remember, Bobby's mental health must have deteriorated rather fast after 1972.
Yes, possibly Kramink suffers from EDS. Or perhaps from PDS, (Premature Draw Symptom).
|Mar-26-14|| ||diceman: <maxi:
Yes, possibly Kramink suffers from EDS. Or perhaps from
PDS, (Premature Draw Symptom).>
I thought that was Leko?
|Apr-11-14|| ||Rookiepawn: Just my one cent: I wouldn't really call Black's move 17 a sac, since it is in fact a forced path to material gain. After move 25 Black has RBBP for the Q, and a crushing position, and I think it's all forced.|
This doesn't make it less bold and brillant.
|Apr-11-14|| ||Petrosianic: You're right, it should not properly be called a "sacrifice". As you say, it gains material, and even gives Black a forced perpetual check, if he wants it.|
But some people tend to use the word "sacrifice" any time you give up a queen and don't get the other guy's queen. It's not strictly correct, but I understand the usage.
|Apr-12-14|| ||Rookiepawn: <Petrosianic> Very true, and of course it is OK by me to call it a "sac". |
The other sacs, the ones in wich material is not forcedly recovered, we can easily recognize them because someone, after hours of analysis and steaming engines, finds a hidden salvation move for the loser. Then the sac is called "unsound"... and controversy starts!
|Apr-12-14|| ||maxi: What a beautiful thing this game is.|
|Apr-27-14|| ||dunamisvpm: 15.bxf8 bxf8. White has 3 candidate moves for his Q. 16.Qa4, 16.Qb3, 16.Qc1.
If 16.Qa4 white loses a tempo with 16...Nxc3 followed by the threat 17...Re8+ etc|
|Apr-27-14|| ||dunamisvpm: I think, generally, the reply of black whenever white captures the rook by 15.Bxf8 shall be chronologically 15...Bxf8 followed by 16...Nxc3. Well, I really dunno. Unless someone shows another bright way. GOD bless everyone|
|Apr-27-14|| ||dunamisvpm: In this game, you will learn more on tactics but no so much about strategy|
|Apr-27-14|| ||dunamisvpm: Bobby Fischer really lives until now through his games. Imagine, this game, time and again has been of interest to many chess players of all caliber. Try to check the kibitzing dates. Like me, I was thinking of what game to review, I thought of so many great players, but finally I said,I will search a game of Bobby Fischer. His playing style had been and still is the "Gold standard" of chess. GOD bless again and have fun!|
|Sep-09-14|| ||pawnny: hello everybody,
I don't understand why white king had to go 35.Kg1 and expose himself to check? and why did he continue to 36. Kf1 instead of coming back to Kh2?
|Sep-09-14|| ||todicav23: <pawnny: hello everybody,
I don't understand why white king had to go 35.Kg1 and expose himself to check? and why did he continue to 36. Kf1 instead of coming back to Kh2?>
If the king will go back to h2 black will be able to repeat the position achieving a draw.
|Sep-09-14|| ||todicav23: I can't believe Bobby lost the queen in only 18 moves.|
|Sep-09-14|| ||Petrosianic: <todicav23>: <I can't believe Bobby lost the queen in only 18 moves.>|
Why not? Did you think there was some kind of rule saying you couldn't sac your queen before Move 20 or something? Believe it or not, they've come even earlier in a game than that.
|Oct-02-14|| ||GarloPemberton: if 12.Nxa4 Nxe4 13.Qb4 Nxg5 (and black is up a pawn) if white continues with 14.Nxg5 Bxd1 15.Kxd1 Qxd4+ 16.Qxd4 Bxd4 and white must lose further material|
|Oct-02-14|| ||GarloPemberton: Bobby Fischer was a baller.|
|Oct-24-14|| ||OhioChessFan: <todic: I can't believe Bobby lost the queen in only 18 moves.>|
I lost my Queen against Little Chess Partner in 15 moves once. I am proud to be 3 moves faster than Fischer.
|Oct-24-14|| ||RookFile: Queen for a king in only 7 moves:
De Legal vs Saint Brie, 1750
|Nov-17-14|| ||sharpnova: This game is unimpressive.
11. Bg5 is a move that even a club level player would never play.
I guess chess has come a long way. But should we pretend that garbage from the past is a gem just because of its age?
I guarantee you every single game played between super GM's in the last 20 years has far more strength and beauty than this game.
And don't get me started on Anderssen's Immortal or Morphy's Opera House. These games were nothing but blunders by both sides, with the losing side's blunders being more consistent.
|Nov-17-14|| ||jnpope: 2/10 on the trolling (points deducted for needlessly invoking Anderssen and Morphy).|
|Nov-17-14|| ||perfidious: <jnpope> Anderssen and Morphy woulda bin jes 2100 players today anyway--probly not even as good as me, and Ah aint played since Ah throwed out mah back plowing the nawth forty one day.|
|Nov-17-14|| ||maxi: You are funny, <sharpnova>.|
|Nov-17-14|| ||maxi: Yes, <RookFile>, but is it legal to give up your Queen, just like that?|
|Nov-17-14|| ||maxi: And as far as I am concerned it is kind of cheesy to accept all the pieces that are offered to you.|
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