Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

(If you register a free account you won't see all these ads!)
Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Toppling Topalov" (game of the day Aug-22-2018)
Belgrade Investbank (1995), Belgrade SRB, rd 6, Nov-20
Sicilian Defense: Classical. Anti-Fischer-Sozin Variation (B57)  ·  0-1


Click Here to play Guess-the-Move
Given 30 times; par: 47 [what's this?]

explore this opening
find similar games 102 more Topalov/Kramnik games
sac: 18...Nxg3 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: If you find a mistake in the database, use the correction form. There is a link at the bottom that reads "Spot an error? Please suggest your correction..." Avoid posting corrections in the kibitzing area.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Premium Chessgames Member
  YouRang: <Patriot><This is what my coach calls a "quiescence error" which essentially means stopping your analysis before the position becomes "quiet".>

I am myself an expert on this type of error. (Making them, that is.)

Premium Chessgames Member
  doubledrooks: Black wins material with 38...Bc3+ 39. Qxc3 a5+ (deflecting the king from protecting the queen) 40. Kxb5 Qxc3.
Premium Chessgames Member
  gawain: Oh, a nice deflection. First the White queen will be lured into the vulnerable spot with Bc3+. She must capture. Then a5+ deflects the King away. The queen falls.
Premium Chessgames Member
  playground player: Won't the trap work equally well if Black plays a5 first? Or is that too bloody obvious?
Oct-13-09  Riverbeast: <Won't the trap work equally well if Black plays a5 first?>

If ..a5 first, white plays Kxb5, and the king is dancing, bobbing, and weaving.....

And black would end up in last place

Premium Chessgames Member
  beenthere240: If black plays 38....a5+ first, white's king simply takes the b pawn and the fork evaporates. That's why the move order is critical.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Marmot PFL: A Sicilian classic. Black (Kramnik) rejects the easy draw on move 26 and wins a brilliant game. A shame that he now plays mainly the Petroff.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Check It Out: This one took me awhile. I noticed first the possibility of 38...Bc3+ but the square is double protected. Then I saw 38...a5+ but that seemed to fail to 39.Kxb5. Then I looked at 38...Rxc5 39.Kxc5 but couldn't spot any forcing continuations. Just before I gave up I thought, one more looksy. Then I saw it: Give the 38...Bc3+ then 39.Qxc3 a5+! and the queen is toast.
Oct-13-09  muralman: My son got this one first rather quickly, after I discovered the bishop move. Pawns are powerful agents. I tend to forget that.
Oct-13-09  sataranj: I cant believe topalov actually waited till kramnik made 39.a5+
Premium Chessgames Member
  lost in space: <<YouRang:> I feel a little dumb about taking so long to see it. I mean, the first moves I looked at were the check moves: (1) a5+ and (2) Bc3+. So why did it take me so long to consider using them BOTH?!

You are not alone :-)

Oct-13-09  Riverbeast: <I cant believe topalov actually waited till kramnik made 39.a5+ >

That was move 39, near the time control.....Maybe time was low, and the final moves were blitzed out?

Or maybe Topalov was hoping Kramnik would touch the wrong piece :-)

Oct-13-09  WhiteRook48: 38...Rxc5?!?!
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jimfromprovidence: It would have been good, as kibitzers from earlier days have pointed out, if white had played 38 Bxb5+ instead.

click for larger view

Now after 38...axb5 39 Qxg3 Qc3+ 40 Qxc3 Bxc3+ 41 Kxb5 Bxa1 42 Nxa1 it's more or less an even game.

click for larger view

Oct-13-09  SamAtoms1980: 38 ... Bc3+ 39 Qxc3 a5+ 40 Kxb5 Qxc3.

White now has two bishops for a queen and a pawn ---- a pawn which is ready to run down the board.

"Drawnik" takes the black pieces and gets more than a draw.

Oct-13-09  newzild: This took me longer than it should have for a Tuesday - about three minutes. Like many other posters, I saw the idea 38...a5+ 39.Kxa5 Bc3+ winning the queen, but couldn't find anything decent after 39.Kxb5. Once again, it came down to move order.

By the way, this game is regarded as something of a classic.

Premium Chessgames Member
  Eisenheim: This one came right away to me and I was amused and mused that VT's pre-rybka program must've been very bugged.
Oct-13-09  tivrfoa: <Patriot: For those wondering why you considered 38...Bc3+ and dismissed it quickly because of 39.Qxc3: This is what my coach calls a "quiescence error"...> Nice. Here's a link about this:
Oct-16-09  Formula7: I considered 38...Bc3+ right away but it took me a while to see that after 39...a5+ 40.Kxb5 the queen is hanging.
Feb-20-11  notyetagm: Game Collection: EXCHANGE ON THE LOOSE SQUARE: THEN NA++,ND--

Topalov vs Kramnik, 1995 38 - Bg7-c3+! creates loose c3-queen, 39 - a6-a5+ removes guard

Premium Chessgames Member
  HeMateMe: ok, so why didn't anyone do this to Fischer?
Aug-22-18  Ironmanth: Wow! Really intense firefight. Surely will repay deeper study. Thanks, chessgames!
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: Based on today's GOTD pun, I think we should not be surprised in the future to see a positional squeeze of Kramnik with the title

"Cramping Kramnik"

Now we just need a game befitting of that title!

Premium Chessgames Member

click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4: d 21 done

1. = (0.09): 19...Kd7 20.hxg3 Qxg3+ 21.Kd1 Nf2+ 22.Kc1 Rb8 23.Rf1 Nxd3+ 24.cxd3 b6 25.Be1 Qh3 26.Rf2 h5 27.Qc2 Bb7 28.Kd1 Rhc8 29.Rc1 Qg4+ 30.Re2 Ke7 31.Bf2 h4 32.Be3 h3 33.Kd2 Kf8 34.Rf2 Kg8 35.Nd4 d5 36.e5 Bf8 37.Qa4 Bc5 38.Qd7 a5 39.a3

2. + / = (0.32): 19...Kf8 20.hxg3 Qxg3+ 21.Kd1 Nf2+ 22.Kc1 Nxh1 23.Nxa8 Bh6 24.a3 Bxf4+ 25.Kb1 Qf2 26.Nc1 Kg7 27.Ka2 Bxc1 28.Rxc1 Qxe2 29.Bxe2 Nf2 30.Bf3 e5 31.Nc7 Bg4 32.Bxg4 Nxg4 33.Bb4 h5 34.Bxd6 Rd8 35.c3 Kh6 36.Be7 Rd2 37.Rf1 Rf2 38.Rxf2 Nxf2 39.Bf6 g5

Premium Chessgames Member

click for larger view

Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done

<1. = (0.16): 13...Ne5> 14.Be3 Qd8 15.0-0 Bg7 16.f4 Nxd3 17.cxd3 0-0 18.Rac1 b5 19.h3 Bb7 20.Bd4 Rc8 21.Qe3 Qd7 22.a3 e6 23.Na5 Ba8 24.Ne2 Qe7 25.Bc3 Nd7

2. = (0.18): 13...Bg7 14.f4 Nh5 15.Nd5 Qd8 16.0-0 0-0 17.f5 Nhf6 18.Nxf6+ Nxf6 19.c3 Qc7 20.Nd4 Bd7 21.Be3 d5 22.Bf4 Qc5 23.e5 Ne4 24.Bxe4 dxe4 25.fxg6 fxg6 26.Qxe4 Bc6 27.Qe3 Bd5 28.Rad1 Bc4 29.b4 Qd5 30.Nf5

Jump to page #    (enter # from 1 to 4)
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, totally anonymous, and 100% free--plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, or duplicating posts.
  3. No personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No posting personal information of members.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform an administrator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, you might try the Kibitzer's Café.
Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors.
Spot an error? Please submit a correction slip and help us eliminate database mistakes!
<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>
This game is type: CLASSICAL (Disagree? Please submit a correction slip.)

Featured in the Following Game Collections [what is this?]
musicmanTRIBALx's favorite games
by musicmanTRIBALx
# 38 [10...]
from ZZZ_Shasin's Best Play Examples by whiteshark
38 ... Bg7-c3+! 39 Qe1xBc3 makes loose queen, remove guard
from Loose and -only- piece defenders is NOT(!) SAFE by notyetagm
dance of the knights
from Alexander228's favorite games by Alexander228
38...? (October 13, 2009)
from Tuesday Puzzles, 2004-2010 by Phony Benoni
from Kramnik - My Life and Games by peckinpah
Kramnik boring? I don't think so.
from Topa's famous victories and defeats by Grega
from Notable Chessgames of the 1990's by Jaredfchess
Chess Informant Best Games 4
by koinonia
38 - Bg7-c3+! 39 Qe1xBc3 loose queen drops off to remove guard
from LPDO -> LOOSE PIECES DROP OFF! (GM DR J. NUNN) by notyetagm
Game 164
from My Life and Games (Kramnik/Damsky) by Qindarka
Game 94
from Mammoth Book-Greatest Games (Nunn/Burgess/Emms) by tiber56
from 125 Greatest Chess Games by Retarf
Power Chess - Kramnik
by Anatoly21
#4-Belgrade (Yugoslavia) 1995 (94/526)
from World's Greatest Chess Games by uril
Chess Informant Best Games 4
by Olanovich
"Random" tactics.
from Attack and Defence by hoodrobin
Vladimir, the Conqueror
by Gottschalk
DrChopper's good games 4
by DrChopper
from Kramnik - My Life and Games by JoseTigranTalFischer
plus 74 more collections (not shown)

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2018, Chessgames Services LLC