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|Jul-19-11|| ||furrer: <Everett>
And the same is true with Kramniks wins ;)
|Aug-30-11|| ||DrMAL: In this version of the Meran 13.dxe6 or 13.Qe2 is usually played, 13.Nd4 was a new sharper move then, recently played by Magnus Carlsen vs Shirov, 2011 where Shirov played 13...e5 instead. 14.b4 is unique in the CG database, it looked like an interesting way to open the center. |
After 19...Qxf7?! (instead of 19...Kxf7 to "castle by hand") the knight sac with 21...O-O?! was not fully compensated but then with 22...Qh3?! instead of 22...Qe5 it was nearly decisive. Kasparov missed 23.Qe2! to fully defend and hence probably win, instead he played 23.Nf3?! to poorly defend. Then 24.Nc5?! instead of 24.Qe2 or 24.Ra2 to defend the h-pawn gave black some advantage after the exchange sac 24...Rxf3! Here Kasparov played probably losing move by taking back 25.Rxf3?! simply 25.Ra2 would have likely held a draw.
27.Bg5? lost faster Kramnik started playing best moves but after 29.Ra2?? Kramnik missed a mate in 4 (29...Bxd3+ 30.Rxd3 Qh1+ 31.Ke2 Qg2+ 32.Ke3 Rxe4#) but 29...Qh1+ right away was good enough. Terrible game from Kasparov his bungling of simple tactics makes this one of his worst games (particularly as WC!).
|Nov-08-11|| ||refutor: didn't see kasparov get beat like this very often, particularly in 1996!|
|Feb-14-12|| ||ColdSong: Simply horribly outplayed between the opening and the middlegame.Pathetic,especially for the best prepared player ever.|
|May-13-12|| ||screwdriver: Well, at least it's easy to see the game is definately over at the time Kasparov resigned. Is Kasparov considered the best player ever?|
|May-29-12|| ||Suryanshu: at move 25 ... d perfect answer should have been Ra2 and not Rxf3 (Rybka)
i guess Kasparov paid d price for being too hungry ...|
d material at this point was equal and d game would have progressed fr a draw.
|Nov-23-12|| ||Conrad93: Kasparov was winning in the middle game, but blundered. It had nothing to do with Kramnik outplaying him.|
He;s not in the same league.
|Nov-23-12|| ||Conrad93: Kramnik missed a simple mate in four. How lame!|
|Nov-23-12|| ||SimonWebbsTiger: "Having seen a forced win, I did not even bother to look for anything better (especially since I had little time left). Meanwhile it would have been better to conclude the game with...mate in four moves" (Kramnik - My Life and Games.) |
This game won the best game award in Informator 67 with 87/90 points. The second best game (also a Kramnik game) received 55/90 points.
btw, at no point was Kasparov winning. 23. Nf3? instead 23. Ra2 Be4 24. Re1 Bb7! 25. Qd3! ; and 24.Nc5? instead 24. Qe2! holds the balance.
This game was Kasparov's first loss with white since 1986.
|Nov-23-12|| ||Conrad93: 23.Qe2 wins.|
|Mar-25-13|| ||Conrad93: To be fair, Kasparov played terribly right from the opening...|
Not his best chess.
|Mar-25-13|| ||Jim Bartle: <Conrad93: 23.Qe2 wins.
Conrad93: To be fair, Kasparov played terribly right from the opening...>
How did he play terribly right from the opening yet have a winning position after move 22?
|Mar-25-13|| ||Conrad93: <How did he play terribly right from the opening yet have a winning position after move 22?>|
Ah, I see a dreamer...
|Mar-25-13|| ||Jim Bartle: Well, conrad, there's an obvious contradiction between your two posts.|
|Mar-26-13|| ||Conrad93: That tends to happen a lot.|
|Jan-06-14|| ||Dave1: Smashed him|
|Mar-27-14|| ||Check It Out: Kramnik smashed Kasparov, and Jim Bartle smashed Conrad93.|
|Mar-27-14|| ||perfidious: <CIO> As you well know, <Conrad> would smash Kramnik.|
|May-01-17|| ||ZackyMuhammad: Kramnik|
|Jun-25-17|| ||Artemio: Is Kasparov the greatest player ever...see Kramnik's wins against him.|
|Oct-19-17|| ||Damenlaeuferbauer: In my opinion the best game of the decade 1990 - 1999!|
|Nov-07-17|| ||offramp: In order to understand the kibitzing I had to take <fgh> off my ignore list.|
|Nov-08-17|| ||Isilimela: The knight sac with 21 ... O-O is judged objectively unsound (Stockfish) but very good chess psychology from Kramnik - Kasparov could not easily tell whether bluff or brilliancy!|
|Aug-27-18|| ||Caleb554: Chess is complex enough and over the board it is very difficult to find the right moves even in a winning position. |
It does not matter if the engine does not like Kramnik's position at move 22, as over the board it is hard to refute it unless you are skilled defensively.
Kramnik is no less talented than Kasparov positionally and strategically. Kasparov excels in creating and calculating deeply in sharper positions where he has the initiative, much of which is aided by his opening preparation.
Kramnik at his peak can go and hold his own with Kasparov at his peak. I think this is because Kramnik is a much more tough, resilient and defensively resourceful player than Karpov. Kramnik also works on his openings very hard and is also a better end-game player.
|Aug-28-18|| ||WorstPlayerEver: 23. Qe2 Bxg3 24. Nf5 Rxf5 25. Rxf5 Re8 26. Nc5 Qxf5 27. exf5 Rxe2 28. hxg3 Bc8 29. Bf4 Bxf5 30. Rxa6|
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