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|Nov-11-08|| ||Yodaman: 14... bxf6 would have been better than 14... Nxf6 but I don't think that Kasparov saw that. It cost him the game.|
|Nov-11-08|| ||Yodaman: Also, something as simple as 13...bxc3 could have changed the outcome of the game dramatically.|
|Nov-12-08|| ||kevin86: Is it my imagination,or is Kasparov getting better as these title matches continue-or is Karpov declining?|
|Mar-04-09|| ||ToTheDeath: <Blaise99a> I'll just repeat my reply to Eric Schiller in Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000 |
<Kasparov always talks about the responsibility of the world champion- yet he blamed everyone else for why he didn't play the rightful challenger in 2000. The argument that a match is pointless when one player has a big plus score is equally pathetic- Matches aren't played on paper. Fischer lost 5 games to Spassky over the course of a decade before he could win one. And how long did it take Kasparov to get his first over Karpov?
The Shirov that beat Kramnik against so many predictions showed incredible form- thanks to Garry we'll never know what kind of fight a match with Shirov would have been.>
|Mar-08-09|| ||Poisonpawns: yawn......Its 2009|
|Apr-14-09|| ||dumbgai: Yes it's 2009, but there are certain people (mostly Kramnik haters) who will keep waving the Shirov flag for all eternity.|
|May-08-09|| ||mjmorri: Black had no time for 13...Be7. 13...Bxc3 was his only reasonable chance.|
Wasting time by retreating the Bishop to e7 rarely works well in the Nimzo-Indian.
|Jul-04-09|| ||Bridgeburner: The criticism of Kasparov's <14...Nxf6> is justified IMO only because he made a mistake on the next move.|
After <15.Bxe6 Rc7 16.Bc4 Bxf3 17.gxf3>
click for larger view
Black has enough for the pawn, especially with White's pawn structure in ribbons. Of course not <17...Qxd4?? 18.Nb5>.
<acirce> mentioned earlier that <14.Nxf6> may have been the best move for Black, and he may well be right.
|Aug-17-09|| ||tagbay: WooooooooooW
kremnik is the best active player in my oponion.
but he stoped playing alot in the last 6 months !!
|Aug-17-09|| ||MaxxLange: What a beautiful win
If Kramnik wants a comeback to these glory days, the path is clear: beat Topalov and beat Anand!
|Aug-17-09|| ||WhiteRook48: and get smashed by Kasparov|
|Aug-26-09|| ||Julian713: Seems to me that 23...Rf8 is the mistake that ensures the loss. Playing 23...h6 does 3 things:|
1. Gives the king an escape route from a back-row mate by the queen or rook 2. Swings the battle line to an area where the defending knight actually has some influence (and yet is still defended by the g-pawn) 3. Keeps the rook in a defensive position without offering it up as a free piece. Unless I'm missing an obvious mate somewhere, Rf8 was useless.
24.Nxh6+ wins a pawn, but 24...Kh7 forces White to spend a move by either retreating the knight or defending it.
In the end I think Kramnik wins this regardless, his central position is very strong...but with material even it would not have been impossible to save a draw by shifting the defense to the g and h files, where White's rook would have to spend a turn getting into support position for an attack.
|Sep-13-09|| ||Ulhumbrus: 13...Be7 makes a target of the bishop on the e file. Suppose Black tries 13...Bxc3. On 14 bxc3 Bxf3 breaks uo White's King side pawn structure. On 13...Bxc3 14 Rxc3 Qe8 unpins the N on f6 and gains the post d5 for Black's QB and Knights.|
|Dec-21-09|| ||The Rocket: as far as I am concerned this game was 100% analysis, a line of the nimzo which is yet to equalize for black according to chessmaster programs annonations for famous games.|
perhaps I am wrong here, when they say black has never equalized in the line makes me wonder if kramnik actually played theoretical moves the hole game
|Aug-26-10|| ||Frankenstein17: What a shame for Kasparov! He did not deserve to be 2000 world champion with such a careless playing.|
|Oct-18-10|| ||sevenseaman: IMO Kasparov is the greatest of the modern champions. The elegance with which Kramnik has floored him in this game prevents me from being overly sympathetic.|
|Jun-23-11|| ||DrMAL: I'm quite sure Kasparov prepared this opening with usual meticulous care, but seemingly forgot to play the intermediate move 13...a5. After 13...a5 14.a3 Be7 the exchange sequence starting with 15.Bxf6 is no longer favorable for white. Here, white's best is 15.Nb5 or 15.Be3 with basically equal chances.|
In the game, the exchanges that followed 14.Bxf6 gave white a big advantage. 19...Qxb2 instead of 19...Qd2 was a mistake that turned a solid advantage into a decisive one. Kramnik plays out the rest of the game perfectly, showing his brilliance.
|Jun-23-11|| ||perfidious: <DrMAL> I'm quite sure you're mistaken-other moves have been played there, after all.|
Oh, but you're always right; so much for that.
|Jun-23-11|| ||DrMAL: <perfidious:> Seems you have been losing at poker as well? Either way, your remark is unfounded and, well, perfidious.|
|Jun-23-11|| ||perfidious: <DrMAL> Another categorical statement without all the facts, which we've become accustomed to seeing from you.|
Better find some average or beginning players who are impressed, because I'm not.
|Jun-23-11|| ||DrMAL: <perfidious:> Who cares if you are impressed? Certainly not I LOL. Your inflammatory garbage out of the blue reveals your character. I never argue with idiots people may get confused.|
|Aug-03-11|| ||Piewalker: I briefly reviewed this game on YouTube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hany...|
|Sep-14-11|| ||perfidious: It's curious how seldom Kasparov played the Nimzo as Black, in which respect he was practically unique among the modern world champions.|
<DrMeretricious: .... I never argue with idiots people may get confused.>
What has this to do with anything? It is you who has repeatedly claimed that you're going to have done with this site, yet come back for more.
|Jul-11-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF KRAMNIK.
Your score: 29 (par = 25)
|Aug-29-12|| ||QueentakesKing: Something is wrong here. This is not the Kasparov I followed.|
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