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 | | perfidious: <PB>, unless, of course, your answer does not fall victim to a recount and disappear altogether. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | stacase: I sincerely hope that PB's absentee comment doesn't get diverted into a burn bag somewhere along the way by some nasty person. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | nalinw: <PB> Your absentee answer will never be delivered because the postal service can't handle the load .... 36. .... Rxe7 seems forced because
36. .... Kh8, Bf7 lead to mate
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36.... Kg8 37. Nf6+ also forces mate or loss of material 37... Kf8 38 Nxd4+ Qf5 39. Qxf5+ and 40. Rxd7 |
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| Nov-03-20 | | agb2002: White has a knight for a bishop.
The e-pawn protects f6. Therefore, 36.Rxe7+ Rxe7 37.Qf6+: A) 37... Kh7 38.Qxe7+ Kh8 (38... Kg8 39.Nf6+ Kh8 40.Qh7#) 39.Qf8+ Bg8 (39... Kh7 40.Nf6#) 40.Nf6 wins (40... Qd5 41.Nxd5). B) 37... Kg8 38.Qxe7 Kh8 39.Nf6 Qd1+ 40.Kh2 Bg8 41.Qf8 wins. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | saturn2: Acutally it is more than a pawn white gets out of
36. Rxe7+ Rxe7 37. Qf6+
After 38....Kg8 rhere is the forkthreat Nf6
and after 38 ...Kh7 38. Qxe7+ Kh8 the end is also near |
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| Nov-03-20 | | agb2002: In my line A, 41.Qxh6+ Bh7 42.Qxh7# is obviously better. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Walter Glattke: 35.Rxe7+ Rxe7 36.Qf6+ Kg8 37.Qxe7 threatens Nf6+ B) 35.-Kg8 36.Nf6+ Kg8 (Kh8 Rh7#) 37.Nxh5+ Kxe7 38.Qf6+ Ke8 39.Ng7+ wins, B2) 36.Re8+ Kh7 37.Nf6+ and NxQ B3) 36.RxR C) 35.-Kh8 36.Qf6+ Kg8 37.Qg7# |
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| Nov-03-20 | | mel gibson: Easy peasy -
Black must lose the Queen or be check mated. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Brenin: Too much aimless opening horseplay by Black. As others have noted, the obvious 36 Rxe7+ nets the K or Q. Earlier, 31 Rxd5 would have been an interesting strategic sacrifice: after 31 ... cxd5 32 Qxb7 it's hard to see a good defence for Black. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | AlicesKnight: 36.Rxe7+ seems to do the trick; ....Rxe7; 37.Qf6+ Kg8: 38.Qxe7 followed by Nf6. A little curious to see the Black e-pawn unmoved. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | goodevans: <stacase>, <nalinw>, If 36...Kg8 then white's quickest win is 37.Qb8+. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | stacase: <goodevans: <stacase>...If 36...Kg8 then white's quickest win is 37.Qb8+.> True enough, I play these puzzles move by move as if it were a real game. And Black didn't move 36...Kg8 or 36...Kh8 He took the Rook and then resigned when White moved 37.Qf6+ Always accept a resignation (-: Considering what I wrote, it's up for grabs If 36...Kg8 were the actual game if I would have seen the 37.Qb8+ mating attack. But you're right, taking the Rook after 36...Kg8 isn't the the way to go. The actual solution to this puzzle is seeing that 36.Rxe7+ works. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | LewisKing: Even though he lost, I still want to name my kid Mamadzhan. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | TheaN: White wins on account of <36.Rxe7+!> as this rather forced 'simplification' puts the White pieces into striking positions. Black can't decline on account of mate in 2s: 36....Bf7? 37.Qxf7+ Kh8 38.Qg7#; 36....Kh8? 37.Qf6+ Kg8 38.Qg7# and 36....Kg8? 37.Qb8+ Rd8 38.Qxd8#. I'll be honest, yes, I did also go for Nf6+ in the last line. Something something pattern repetition. <36....Rxe7 37.Qf6+ Kg8> in this case, 37....Kh7 loses a tempo Black can't lose: 38.Qxe7+ Kh8 (Kg8 39.Nf6+ Kh8 40.Qh7#; Bf7 39.Qxf7+ Kh8 40.Qf8+ Kh7 41.Nf6#) 39.Nf6. This or Qf8+ first doesn't really make a difference as to defend against mate Black will have to play Bg8 anyway, but it does prevent White to go for simplification with Qxg8 (after 39.Qf8+ Bg8 40.Qxg8+?! Kxg8 41.Nf6+ Kf7 42.Nxh5 gxh5 43.Kf1 +- White's easily winning, but why go here anyway?). After 39....Qd1+ 40.Kh2 Bg8 41.Qf8 Qd6+ 42.Qxd6 +-, it forcefully follows 42...Kg7 43.Nd7 Kf7 44.Ne5+ Kg7 45.Qe7+ Bf7 46.Qxf7+ Kh8 47.Nxg6#. <38.Qxe7 +->
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It's striking that Black has no reasonable defense against just a single threat; Nf6. It's different from the Kh7 line because Black can throw Q:N after 38....Qg5 39.Nf6+ Qxf6 40.Qxf6 +- and at the time control White's in the comfort seat with Q:B. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | zb2cr: After 36. Rxe7+, Rxe7; 37. Qf6+ looks crushing--White not only regains the Rook, but has a good attack. <agb2002> does a good job pointing out alternative lines. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Walter Glattke: Sorry to say 35.Rxe7+ instead 36.-Rxe7+, just to inform, that 35.Qxf4 h6?? is a blunder, black must play 35.-Qf5. |
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Nov-03-20
 | | Gypsy: Black position is totally ruined and different moves easily win here. For instance -- to diverge from the game continuation -- after <36.Qd4+...> Black king does not have a good retreat; e.g; <36...Kg8 37.Rxe7 Rxe7 38.Nf6+...>. Thus, time to resign. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | saturn2: I dont understand 30 Ng4. This knight could not be chased away from e5 and it covered the pawn d7 forever. |
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Nov-03-20
 | | gawain: I found Rxe7+ pretty quickly, because yesterday's puzzle (which I struggled with) prepared me to look for a small (but decisive) advantage. |
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Nov-03-20
| | gawain: But of course the initial win of the pawn is just the overture. Black cannot effectively meet the threat of Nf6. |
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Nov-03-20
 | | AylerKupp: <stacase> Always accept a resignation (-:> This made me think, always a bad thing. Can a player refuse a resignation? No, the FIDE Laws of Chess (https://old.fide.com/fide/handbook....) indicate that the game is over as soon as a player resigns, so his opponent has no opportunity to refuse his resignation. That's a relief. I can sleep better at night now knowing that none of my opponents could have refused my resignations in order to torture me further. :-) |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Walter Glattke: The match will be count as won for a player, who's opposite declares , he/she resign. I learned that in the 60ies, it is one of the 20 articles, they had still at this time. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: I missed some nuances in the game line and went with Qd4+ instead. It works too, albeit not quite as thumpingly. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Brenin: <saturn2>: I can see White's thinking behind 30 Ng4: it attacks the Black Q, threatens a fork on h6 if Black's Q or R occupies f7, and by defending f2 it frees White's Q to take the b-pawn. However, it retreats from a commanding position at e5, it abandons the mighty d pawn, and it could be dislodged by h5. I think 30 f3 or Re2 would have been stronger. |
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| Nov-03-20 | | Nullifidian: This is more like a Monday puzzle than yesterday's puzzle. 36. ♖xe7+ and the rook has to be captured because otherwise it's mate in 2 (36... ♔g8 37. ♕b8+ ♖d8 38. ♕xd8# or ♗f7 37. ♕xf7+ ♔h8 38. ♕h7# or ♔h8 37. ♕f8+ ♗g8 38. ♕g7#). Then after 36... ♖xe7, 37. ♕f6+ and after the king moves 38. ♕xe7, when black will have to give up its queen to stave off the threat of ♘f6 and eventual checkmate. |
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