Jan-09-08 | | DarthStapler: Wow, nice queen sac |
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Jan-09-08 | | Jim Bartle: If white's 29th were a puzzle, I would never solve it. |
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Jun-05-23
 | | FSR: He's dead, Jim. |
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Jun-06-23
 | | saffuna: Thanks for the prompt reply, <fsr>. |
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Jun-06-23
 | | FSR: <saffuna> I'm amazed you noticed. Do you search for both of your handles? |
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Jun-06-23
 | | saffuna: Just saw your post on "recent kibitzing." |
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Aug-24-24 | | Cecco: I guess the puzzle was supposed to be on the 29th move, rather than the 19th. |
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Aug-24-24
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Also thinking CG meant the 29th move, not the 19th. Brilliant game, nonetheless. |
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Aug-24-24 | | mel gibson: <An Englishman: Good Evening: Also thinking CG meant the 29th move, not the 19th. Brilliant game, nonetheless> Yes I checked out the 19th and it's a draw
using Stockfish 16.1.
Testing the 29th move:
29. h5
(29. h5 (1.h5 Rxe3 2.hxg6+ Kh8 3.Rxe3 Qc6 4.Re8 Qxe8 5.fxe8R Rxe8 6.Rf7 Rg8 7.Kh2 b6 8.Rb7 h5 9.Rf7 b5
10.Rb7 h4 11.Rc7 b4 12.axb4 h3 13.gxh3 a3 14.bxa3 Re8 ) +42.74/44 232) score for White +42.74 depth 44. |
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Aug-24-24
 | | scormus: 29 W to play? No, I'll settle for 19 W to play. Ar least I got the first move there! |
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Aug-24-24
 | | chrisowen: Eg up jab Bxd4 accord mack its aoh its jah its a fig pug bah its uh its Bxd4 cad :) |
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Aug-24-24
 | | al wazir: 31. Rxe3, threatening Rh3, also wins. If 31...Qg4, then 32. Bc5. If 31...Qc4, then 32. Re8. (Not 32. Bc3 because of 32...d4.) If 31...Qc6, then 32. Rfe1 Qxg6 (32...Qc4 33. Bc3 d4 34. Re8) 33. Re8 Qd6 34. Rxf8+ Qxf8 35. Re8. |
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Aug-24-24
 | | offramp: I got it. 19. Bxd4! |
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Aug-24-24
 | | al wazir: That should have read
<31. Rxe3, threatening Rh3, also wins. If 31...Qg4, then 32. Bc5. If 31...Qc4, then 32. Bc3. If now 32...d4, then 33. Re4 wins: 33...Qc6 34. Rxd4 Qxg6 35. Rdf4 Kh7 36. Bb4. (Not 32. Re8 because of 32...Qxd4+, with a perpetual.)If 31...Qc6, then 32. Rfe1 Qxg6 (32...Qc4 33. Bc3 d4 34. Re8) 33. Re8 Qd6 34. Rxf8+ Qxf8 35. Re8.> Sorry. |
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Aug-25-24
 | | PawnSac: This certainly is an odd and ambiguous point to start a puzzle.
< Is this a puzzle? or a puzzle within a puzzle?? > The position starts in the middle of an exchange, with white to play
and make an obligatory capture! The immediate choice is Qx or Bx,
so the Solver has a 50-50 chance of guessing the GAME move. If that's the goal, < offramp: I got it. 19. Bxd4! > is completely correct and that's the end of it! Puzzle solved! BUT.. if the goal is to find the BEST move; then for thoroughness sake, Qxd4 must be considered. So, Is 19.Qxd4 is a good positional idea? There are no black knights to harass the Q from oblique light squares,
the Q is strongly centralized, always attacking the isolani while guarding the advanced e pawn, and after Bd2, e3 is cleared for a rook lift to g3 or h3. Bd2 is a very flexible location: The bishop eyes a5 keeping Q or R out, is positioned for a sac on h6 after a rook lift to g3, has in reserve Bb4 to weaken f7, or Bc3 to line up on g7, so there are lots of possible ideas.
The white rooks can also play on the c or e files,or do a rook lift and double, or move right.
So.. Is this a good plan? It might be if handled correctly, as it clearly has merit. While pondering this, I loaded the position in Stockfish. To my entertainment < Stockfish considered 2 moves.. Bx and Qx, and switched back and forth, yet clearly favored 19.Qxd4 in the higher ply with a tiny margin. > If you chose Qxd4, good choice, just click ahead till after 19. Bxd4 Be6 and continue at move 20. |
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Aug-25-24
 | | PawnSac: The drawback with starting with move 19:
If the Solver picks the "best" engine move he will miss the puzzle completely! And I don't mean missing the SOLUTION to the puzzle, I mean missing the whole puzzle itself! Then when he clicks forward and sees Bxd4, may mistakenly assume Qxd4 is a bad choice, when
in fact it's not!
On the other hand, if the goal was to make it more problematic and difficult, well, it worked! lol |
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