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Magnus Carlsen vs Alexander Grischuk
Linares (2009)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen. Classical Variation (B85)  ·  1-0
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Mar-05-09  Atking: Good and honest job <Albertan>. Still I'm not convinced (as suggest too by GM Anish Giri Chess News Base) that 19...Bg4 was stronger and equalizing. Bb6 controling d8 means White have the d file I think A Karpov's move like 20.Rd2 keeps a kind of small edge which the older champion could torture his opponent for a long.
Mar-06-09  eightsquare: Brilliant!! Just too strong for Grischuk. He (carl) definitely has a hand on linares. <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>
Mar-06-09  dejavu: .44 Magnum special & Alexander the grishucked
Mar-06-09
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  Eyal: In a short post-game interview to Europe Echecs, Carlsen mentions 20.Nd5 as a point at which the game already becomes very difficult for Black, even if he can defend better in some later moves.

Besides 19...Bg4, an earlier point where Black might improve is <16...Be6> instead of Nb4 - clearing the c8 square for the queen in case of Bb6, which makes for a better setup of the Black pieces. A line like 17.Bb6 Qc8 18.Nd5 Bxd5 19.exd5 Nb4 20.c3 e4 21.cxb4 exf3 22.Qxf3 Qd7 (given by Giri) seems to lead to equality.

Another interesting possibility is <16...b6> - a critical line in such a case would be 17.Nd5 Nxd5 18.exd5 Nb4 (18...Na5? 19.Nxa5 bxa5 20.c4! Qxc4 21.Bh5) 19.c3 Nd3 20.Qd2 and now either 20...Qc4 or Nf4.

Mar-06-09  samikd: Beautiful game ! Reminds me another game in the same line Anand vs Kasparov, 1995
Mar-06-09  shintaro go: Schveningen is sometimes too passive
Mar-06-09
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  parisattack: <shintaro go: Schveningen is sometimes too passive>

I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen. Better ...Bd7, allow e5, use e8 for a the knight retreat. I believe Smyslov was the first to essay the ...Re8 idea.

Mar-06-09
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  Eyal: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen [...] I believe Smyslov was the first to essay the ...Re8 idea.>

Apparently it was introduced by players like Ribli and Ulf Andersson in the mid-70s (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...). At any rate, it was a favorite of Kasparov, who knew a thing or two about this opening... (http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...)

Mar-06-09
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  parisattack: I most happily defer to Kasparov :) - But I would still play ...Bd7.
Mar-06-09
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  chancho: Man oh man. Brilliant!
Mar-06-09
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  parisattack: And, in any event my memory has failed me (again). The closest I find is Tal-Smyslov Bled 1959 with a ...Re8, ...Bf8 in a Scheveningen (of sorts).
Mar-06-09  blacksburg: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen.>

i've seen a few video commentaries on ICC that say that ...Re8 is a common idea in the scheveningen. but who knows why? can anyone explain this? i've never been able to figure it out, and that famous K-K match game in this line is way over my head. :(

this is why i play 1...e5.

Mar-06-09
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  parisattack: <blacksburg: <I don't think the plan with ...Re8 is in the spirit of the Scheveningen.> i've seen a few video commentaries on ICC that say that ...Re8 is a common idea in the scheveningen. but who knows why? can anyone explain this? i've never been able to figure it out, and that famous K-K match game in this line is way over my head. :( this is why i play 1...e5.>

Per<eyal> it is a fairly new idea - although see also the mentioned Tal-Smyslov game. I think Kotov played it once or twice, also. I studied the Scheveningen heavily in the 70s and per my old and weak chess thinking it is not in the spirit of the variation. Euwe mentions it in a footnote in the 10-Part series he did for Chess Review in 1949. I assume its in Kasparov's Scheveningen book, but I don't have that handy for reference. Either way, not very impressive play by Grischuk.

You are right - 1. ...e5 easier to figure. :)

Mar-06-09  kamalakanta: <samikd: Beautiful game ! Reminds me another game in the same line Anand vs Kasparov, 1995>

This other game by Anand is not iin the same line, but it is a game in which ...Re8 also does not fit in...

Anand vs I Sokolov, 1992

Mar-06-09  kamalakanta: Another nice game by Anand against Topalov in this variation (started out as a Taimanov, but transposed to Schveningen)

Anand vs Topalov, 1996

Mar-07-09  AuN1: way too passive from grischuk; he just basically showed his belly on this one.
Mar-07-09
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  outplayer: I'd like Mihai Suba to annotate this game.
Mar-07-09
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  parisattack: <kamalakanta:> Thank you for the two games! I love the Scheveningen but you have to have a very delicate touch to play it...The transpositions are enormous and mixing plans is something even GMs do a lot.
May-01-09
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  notyetagm: Chess Today CT-3098:

<Today we will look at the game, which shared second place (with the
encounter Sjugirov vs Cheparinov) in
the ChessPro.ru monthly contest for
the best game of March 2009. The
winner, the game Vocaturo vs Hillarp-
Persson as well as many other
encounters from Maxim Notkin's
collection were already annotated in
CT earlier.

<<<Carlsen vs Grischuk from Linares is in the 4th place.>>>>

Dec-25-09  magnuschess: sacrificial masterpiece...
Jul-29-10  Everett: <magnuschess> there is not a single true sacrifice in this game. Even the "exchange sac" Rxf6 is followed up by a knight fork the immediate grabs or threatens an unavoidable recovery of the exchange.

This game is amazing for the amount of pressure created without a single sacrifice. It makes the Najdorf look positionally unsound.

Jul-08-11
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