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Jonathan Rowson vs Andrew Ledger
Tyneside International (1995), Newcastle ENG, rd 7, May-29
Caro-Kann Defense: Maroczy Variation (B12)  ·  1-0

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Oct-22-12
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  keypusher: I saw Rg6+ but not Rh8+.
Oct-22-12  tivrfoa: Hi folks. I also has the same question: <kstokelyk: Move 24 is interesting. Anyone have the line if black accepts the bishop sac with fxg6?> Thank you.
Oct-22-12  MiCrooks: Then fun one is Qxe6+ Kh8 Qxg6 where White not only has three pawns for the piece but a forced mate as well!

So that means that Black is forced to interpose with the Knight and after Rxf7 Rxf7 Qxg6 even though White is down a full Rook in this position Black has no good defense to White's many threats. Key is e6 opening the diagonal for the Bishop.

One line could go Qe7 Qh7+ Kf8 Nxf7 regaining the Rook...how does Black recapture? Best is actually Qxf7 Rf1 Qxf1 Kxf1 but here the Queen and the advanced e-pawn crush the Rook and Bishop due to the exposed Black King.

If Kxf7 then e6+ is crushing. If you leave it you are in just as much trouble with an extra Knight floating around.

All told however it was actually Black's best hope in the position as after Bxg6 the mating attack rolls in.

Oct-22-12  rotgut: I saw 30. Rh8 Bxh8 31. Qxh8+ Kxh8 32. Nf7+ Kg8 33. Nh6#

Do I get full credit??? :-)

Oct-22-12  MiCrooks: Correction only two pawns as he had sac'd a pawn in the original attack but mate is good enough :)
Oct-22-12  MiCrooks: And I suppose you really need to look at interposing with the Rook too instead of the Knight first. There I think it is probably best to go straight for Qxg6 with e6 coming.
Oct-22-12  MiCrooks: Having looked at it more closely...not sure if gxf6 was any better than Qe7 with Rfd8 instead of Rad8. Both still get crushed but not a forced mate in either case.
Oct-22-12  MiCrooks: Might mention that after Rfd8 instead of Bd3 which is still quite playable, Rdf1 is more to the point since Rfd8 gave Black some luft but sold out the f7 square.
Oct-22-12  QueenMe: Easy enough: White black-square bishop will support both his Rook *and* his Queen - - and Black's bishop can take only one of them. So you throw away the rook - and as soon as Black prepares to take the Rook, he realizes what will come next and instead says, "Oh, @##$"... time to tip the King.
Oct-22-12  zb2cr: Mate in 2. 30. Rh8+, and two possibilities:

a. 30. ... Bxh8: 31. Qxh8#.

b. 30. ... Kg7; 31. Qh7# ( a swallow-tail mate pattern).

Oct-22-12  Abdel Irada: <Once>: <It empathically does not mean that he didn't see it, but shows respect for his opponent for a well-played attack.>

Although empathy may well have been a factor, I think you meant "emphatically."

Oct-22-12  master of defence: What´s wrong with 24...fxg6? If 25.Nxe6 Rxf1+ 26.Rxf1 Qe7, If 25.Qxe6+ Kh8.
Oct-22-12  Abdel Irada: <master of defence>: After 24. ...fxg6?; 25. Qxe6†, Kh8; 26. Qxg6, White threatens mate on h7.

If Black exchanges rooks on f1 and then retreats 27. ...Bf8, White will offer the rook on f7 to interfere with the queen's defense of h7. Unless I'm overlooking something, this should force Black to give up queen for rook, which will not save him in any case thanks to the bishop on c3, which will enter the fray with a timely pawn advance to e6.

I think Black was well advised not to accept the bishop, although as it turned out, he was lost in any case.

May-20-24  mel gibson: Easy Monday. LOL
May-20-24
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  perfidious: One might say that Black came out on the short side of the ledger.
May-20-24  King.Arthur.Brazil: Mondays... 30. Rh8+ Bxh8 31. Qxh8#.
May-20-24  Cecco: Another puzzle with two solutions (of equal speed): 30. Rh8+ and 30. Rg6+. And white also has an extra piece. He might even win because of that.
May-20-24
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  chrisowen: I'm its hq ja its sunk c ve Rh8+ its aoe jet big its huh its a rift nuff Rh8+ its over
May-20-24  TheaN: Hah. Somehow I eyed Rh8+ first but didn't see Qxh8# is checkmate... so <30.Rg6+ with 31.Qh7#> instead and as that is equally fast it's also valid. On that note 30.Rg6+ Qg7 31.Rxg7+? is obviously inferior (if it matters is another).
May-20-24
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  Diocletian: My thought process was: This will not be anyone's immortal game, and 30. BxB will do.
May-20-24  Hercdon: Rg6 looks pretty cool as no pieces leave the board and black looks thoroughly tied up
May-20-24  devere: 31. Qxh8# is certainly good enough, but 31. Qh7+ Qxh7 32. Bxh7# is more artistic.
May-20-24  Diademas: Went 30.Rg6+ followed by 31.Qh7#
May-20-24  jffun1958: Unlike Garfield, the cat, I love Mondays. :-)
There are two solutions, and for either there are 2 variations:

1) 2-mate: 30. Rh8+
a) 30. ... Kg7 31. Qxh7#
b) 30. ... Bxh8 31. Qxh8#

2) 2-mate: 30. Rg6+
a) 30. ... Bg7 31. Qh7#
b) 30. ... Qg7 31. Qh7#

May-20-24
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  takebackok: Spotted both 30 Rg6+ & 30 Rh8+ and its total lights out, take your pick. Miss queen sac Mondays however, puzzles have been super interesting/enjoyable lately.
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