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Apr-24-23
 | | moronovich: Still, after -Nxc4. BxN it looks like Nepo has got more pressure than Ding. The perhaps risk free position that fits the situation in the match. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Sally Simpson: CH24 has frozen so dxc4 played. It the kind of move I was expecting if Nepo was 2-0 up. There must be something at the end of the exchanges to favour him. There is a Rxf2 trick on later. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Sally Simpson: Wow! I'm trying to reload Ch24 and see most of the pieces have come off. |
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Apr-24-23 | | optimal play: So we're down to a rook & pawn ending already
draw? |
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Apr-24-23 | | BxChess: That was a pretty fast transition to the end game. Its as if both players think that they have the advantage. |
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Apr-24-23 | | edbermac: Draw. 🥱 |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Sally Simpson: Not even a Rxf2 and Bxe3 on. I hope this decision does return to haunt Nepo. Cassia tends to punish those who bail out whilst other moves are on the board. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | HeMateMe: Ding has two more whites to get it on. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | moronovich: One of these situations were a draw could suit both players. Nepo coming one game closer to the finish line and Ding having 2/3 white games left. |
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Apr-24-23 | | optimal play: I've just been watching the FIDE channel and Chessgames are putting up the moves before they're being made!? There must be a delay with the FIDE stream. |
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Apr-24-23 | | optimal play: Yep, draw agreed
6:5
Nepo inches closer to 7½ but Ding still has 2/3 whites |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Sally Simpson: Ding now knows if Nepo gets even a slight advantage he will kill the game. He will not be getting a sniff of a chance. Plan A. Do a Kasparov when he needed a last round win Karpov, play a very quiet opening dull opening, wait till Nepo simplifies too quickly and pounce. (anybody Ding's mobile number). |
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Apr-24-23 | | BxChess: Did they agree to a draw? I thought that was not allowed before move 40? |
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Apr-24-23 | | optimal play: The arbiter had to confirm |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Sally Simpson: It's over. 1 hour and 40 minutes. I'll stay in my wee study and pretend it's still being played, if not Mrs Sally will drag me around the shops to carry groceries. |
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Apr-24-23 | | metatron2: This one reminded me the anti-marshals Nepo played against Carlsen without getting anything real. He played it a bit differently here, but the spirit of this game was similar to them, an equally boring. So disappointing game but understandable: Nepo doesn't want to take risks while having +1 with 4 games to go, and Ding prefers being inventive and risky with the white pieces. |
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Apr-24-23 | | metatron2: There was something interesting today though:
In the press conference the players were asked if they would like to suggest changes to the WCC format, so Ding said: Now I think that the match can be even longer :) |
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Apr-24-23 | | goodevans: <BxChess: Did they agree to a draw? I thought that was not allowed before move 40? optimal play: The arbiter had to confirm> Correct me if I'm wrong but the arbiter's only role in a draw by threefold repetition is to confirm that it has indeed happened. |
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Apr-24-23 | | goodevans: Busy today whilst the game was being played and have only just played through it. It seems to me that either Ding was happy to draw with Black today or that or he made a bad error of judgement with <15...c4>. Sure, it looks aggressive and ideas like ...Nb7/...Nc5 and ...Nc6/...Nd4 look tantalising but the reality is somewhat different. Even a patzer like me can see (in hindsight admittedly) that 15...c4 creates weaknesses on both c4 and (via dxc4) d6. That would be okay if Black has a plan that trumps those weaknesses but it appears Ding didn't. 15...c4 effectively says, "here, have the initiative and there's a draw here if you want it". There were plenty of other moves available to him that would have maintained the tension or even led to interesting imbalances, so why play this one? Maybe Ding misjudged the position or maybe he misjudged Nepo's mood, hoping that he would press too hard for a win at all costs like he did earlier in the match. Or, he was simply happy to draw with Black today. |
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Apr-24-23 | | Teyss: <BxChess: Did they agree to a draw? I thought that was not allowed before move 40?> In case of threefold it is, which what happened here. Hence goodevans' valid post which might not be obvious if you didn't see the repetition. |
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Apr-24-23 | | Teyss: <metatron2: In the press conference the players were asked if they would like to suggest changes to the WCC format, so Ding said: Now I think that the match can be even longer :)> Ding is showing more humour than expected from an apparently shy fellow. Didn't see the conference, let's hope this was better appreciated than his crack about being less professional than Carlsen, which I thought was funny and partly true. |
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Apr-24-23 | | metatron2: <Teyss: Ding is showing more humour than expected from an apparently shy fellow. Didn't see the conference, let's hope this was better appreciated> Yes, Ding is surprisingly in good spirit and humorous during this match. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he didn't expect to play in this WC match until Carlsen announced his withdrawal, and so he sees it more like an unplanned opportunity that came along his way, and so its not the end of his world if he won't win it. And yes, his gag was quite appreciated (even Nepo smiled..): https://www.youtube.com/live/voZ-a-... <goodevans: That would be okay if Black has a plan that trumps those weaknesses but it appears Ding didn't. 15...c4 effectively says, "here, have the initiative and there's a draw here if you want it"> Actually that is what Ding had to say about his 15.. c4: https://www.youtube.com/live/voZ-a-... |
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Apr-24-23 | | BxChess: <optimal play, goodevans, Teys> I missed the three-fold repetition as I had dipped out of the game at that stage. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | Korora: So far that's three to Nepo, two to Ding, and six to the cat. |
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Apr-24-23
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: One interesting question for me consisted of this--can Black play a quasi-Marshall Gambit vs. 6.d3? Turns out there does exist a subtle reason why ...d5 does not work vs. the Martinez. After 6.d3,b5; 7.Bb3,0-0; 8.Re1,d5; 9.exd5,Nxd5; 10.Nxe5,Nxe5; 11.Rxe5,c6 White has not played c2-c3 blocking his Nb1 but has played d2-d3 opening the diagonal for the Bc1. Little details, but they reveal why the variation has so few games in the DB, and why White has won most of the games. |
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