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Hans-Joachim Federer
  
Number of games in database: 1
Years covered: 2001
Last FIDE rating: 2004
Highest rating achieved in database: 2043


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HANS-JOACHIM FEDERER
(born Oct-13-1950, 66 years old) Germany

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. L Krizsany vs H J Federer 1-0242001Bad WoerishofenE73 King's Indian

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Sep-12-17
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  HeMateMe: Hey, Martina is still in there pitching!

<Swiss star Martina Hingis captured her second US Open doubles title in as many days, partnering with Taiwan's Chan Yung-Jan to win the women's doubles crown. Hingis, who shared the mixed doubles title Saturday with Britain's Jamie Murray, won her 13th Grand Slam women's doubles title and Chan took her first as they defeated Czechs Lucie Hradecka and Katerina Siniakova 6-3, 6-2. "It's like a real dream come true, like living my dream." Chan said. The champions, who shared a $675,000 top prize, made only two unforced errors in the match while the Czech duo made 18. For Hingis, it was a 25th career Grand Slam title overall and her third of the year.>

pretty good money, for a side event that TV people claim no one watches. I would guess people watch Hingis, though. She kind of has an attitude and touch game talent that reminds people of McEnroe and Monica Seles, technique over ball striking power.

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: If you want an idea of the difference between today's racket/strings vs. wood and gut strings, compare this video of Laver vs. Ashe from Wimbledon 1969 to today's play.

The skill of Laver and Ashe is essentially the same, or in the same ballpark, as today's top players. But note how much tougher shots are in 1969. In particular watch how the players have trouble keeping their passing shots in (either in net or long) compared to the whipped passing shot winners hit consistently today.

I'm not certain, but I believe at that time the server could not leave his feet before hitting the ball, severely limiting the power of the serve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWc...

Sep-12-17  SugarDom: You're saying the athletic skills of 47 years ago are the same now or essentially the same.

Yeah right.

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: Yes, I'm saying Laver's and Ashe's tennis abilities were at the same general level as Federer and Nadal.

Pancho Gonzalez and others as well.

Sep-12-17
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  keypusher: This sounds dreadful to me, but maybe some of you will be interested...

http://www.roundabouttheatre.org/Sh...

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: Sounds like a rehash of the movie "Wimbledon" with Kirsten Dunst and Paul Bettany.
Sep-12-17
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  chancho: Nadal vs a prime Sampras.

Who'd win?

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: On clay Nadal would win easily. On a fast grass court Sampas would wn easily. On today's grass it would be a battle but I would go with Sampras.

On hard courts and indoor it would be very close.

Sampras' advantage is the strength of his serve. Not just the power but the accuracy. And his second serve was as strong as many other players' first serves.

Nadal's advantage is that he just doesn't miss unless forced to. And he's so fast he attacks balls he should be shoveling back defensively.

Sep-12-17
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  keypusher: < saffuna: On clay Nadal would win easily. On a fast grass court Sampas would wn easily. On today's grass it would be a battle but I would go with Sampras. On hard courts and indoor it would be very close.

Sampras' advantage is the strength of his serve. Not just the power but the accuracy. And his second serve was as strong as many other players' first serves.

Nadal's advantage is that he just doesn't miss unless forced to. And he's so fast he attacks balls he should be shoveling back defensively.>

Nadal sounds kind of like prime Andre Agassi. Is that right, or am I completely off base (or over the service line, as the case may be)?

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: I was thinking that, but Nadal is consistently better. And is almost unbeatable on clay courts: 10 French champioships.
Sep-12-17
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  chancho: Rafael Nadal is like an Andre Agassi, but on steroids.

Relentless pursuit of the ball, and his phenomenal fitness is way superior over what Agassi did at his best.

Plus he's a freaking lefty.

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: And puts topspn on a ball like nobody ever.
Sep-12-17
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  keypusher: <chancho> <jim> Thanks!
Sep-12-17
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  HeMateMe: well, here's the trailer for "Borg vs McEnroe":

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf...>

I don't think it will be as good as the movie coming out about King vs Riggs. The guy playing Riggs is great, really inhabits the part:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3N...>

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: <keypusher> <chancho><hmm> If you want to see some really entertaining, high quality tennis between players with contrasting styles, watch any of the three Rafter-Agassi Wimbledon semis from 1999-2001. Just great play.
Sep-12-17
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  chancho: I went and checked Rafter vs Federer and the Aussie had a 3-0 match record.

Roger wasn't <THE FED> yet.

Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: Henman had a good career record vs. Federer, once leading him 6-1. Asked about it later Henman said, "It helps when you start playing him when he's 12."
Sep-12-17
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  HeMateMe: Graf turned pro at age 13 and that's when most female pros beat her. By age 17 she was invincible.
Sep-12-17
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  Keyser Soze: Wow, interesting movie..About Wimbledon 80 finals? Those were the times..A very young Lendl playing..Connors and McEnroe at one semis .And an Epic final.
Sep-12-17  savagerules: I was at a tennis tournament it must have been 1980 or 1981 and there was a 14 or 15 year old girl named Andrea Jaeger with a long blonde pigtail like Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm who demolished all the veterans with a mix of moon balls and short sliced shots and people ended up booing her even though she kept winning because she made the other players look like fools with her tactics. Apparently she had daddy issues and retired a few years later and became a nun later.
Sep-12-17
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  HeMateMe: Andrea the future nun, Jaeger. She left tennis quite early to do charity work and is now a nun.
Sep-12-17
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  saffuna: "Daddy issues."

Riiight.

Sep-13-17
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  HeMateMe: She had a chronic bad shoulder, had a couple of surgeries, but it was hopeless, in her words. Same thing happened to Brian Bosworth, highly touted linebacker from Oklahoma, an AJ Watts/Rob Gronkowski type guy, outspoken, bigger than life.

You may be thinking of Mary Pearce, who's foul mouthed father was banned from women's tennis events because he physically threatened people in the stands, was loud and abusive.

Sep-13-17
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  keypusher: <Borg v McEnroe> Might be interesting, has some good people in it. Nice to see that Shia Laboeuf was able to get a movie made, though checking wiki he still seems to have a lot of problems.

Can't believe Andrea Jaeger became a nun...she seems to have left her order, though. Does that mean she divorced Jesus Christ?

Sep-13-17
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  saffuna: Jaeger's older sister Suzy played on the Stanford tennis team, and Andrea visited a couple of times. Seemed like a nice kid, a little shy, only 17-18 years old. Backcourt player, long rallies, didn't miss.
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