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|Mar-26-14|| ||achieve: Federer does it again, playing quite brilliantly, moving like the wind, up a set and a break, and then something breaks down, for no apparent reason.|
Talking about the QF vs Nishikori. One set each.
|Mar-27-14|| ||KKDEREK: Unbelievable..Dang....|
|Mar-27-14|| ||achieve: Yep - RF lost the third as well.|
|Mar-27-14|| ||KKDEREK: I didn't saw that one coming. I hope that doesn't affect his confidence (was high) for the rest of the season. So he will stay on 5th spot rating? or go up? Wawkinka and Ferrer went down before and Murray got busted as well..|
|Mar-27-14|| ||achieve: Well, last year Nadal owned Raonic, but Raonic is full in development and is improving each month, which does not mean he will beat Nadal, but at least a few closer sets should be on the cards.|
A Nadal-Djoko final is very likely, but they have to play first, with a slight chance of another upset? Dolgo vs Berdych? Then another shot at Nadal, whom he bested in Indian Wells less than 2 weeks ago??!!
|Mar-27-14|| ||KKDEREK: Berdich is not playing so good this year so far. I would pick Dolgo!|
But anyway I will root for Djoko over Nadal..
|Mar-27-14|| ||achieve: Are you sure about Berdych?
He won Rotterdam 2014, less than 6 weeks ago probably, which is no mean feat, and one of the few Tournament 500 victories for Berdych, but i would have to check - Czech - on that.
|Mar-27-14|| ||KKDEREK: I might be wrong as well but I never saw him playing so bad, as when he loose Bautista-Agut. Against Wawrinka (ok, Wawr is hot) I didn't saw his real play as well. We shall see. I don't mind him winning the tourney ;o)|
|Mar-29-14|| ||achieve: <KKD> What a freak double walk-over in Miami! :(|
But we do have another one and two slugging it out in the final tomorrow...
|Mar-29-14|| ||HeMateMe: Serena beat Maria again, must be 15 in a row. The Williams sisters are grunt immune. I guess when you've grown up hearing gun fire at night in Compton, grunts on Hilton Head Island are just a walk in the park.|
|Mar-29-14|| ||perfidious: <HMM> As we say in poker, it depends-in this case, who is grunting and when at Hilton Head.|
'Course, if Serena ever got hold of any of us, she would likely break us in two.
|Mar-29-14|| ||KKDEREK: <achieve> Indeed. Berdich vs Nadal would be a good game.|
|Mar-29-14|| ||HeMateMe: It's just a good think Serena never really got a hold of that tiny Asian referee, in the "YOU DON'T KNOW ME!" outburst. We might have had a case of chicken lo mein on the court, and a new girl at the Rikers Iland female wing.|
|Mar-29-14|| ||perfidious: <HMM> Serena would have been sent to some country club or other--it beggars belief that she would have been housed in the GP.|
|Mar-30-14|| ||KKDEREK: Nadal utterly crushed..This is the one McEnroe made a case to be the best ever?|
He's just a baseline player. Yeah, dominant, monster defender, but best ever? I never felt Sampras was close to as well, just dominant serve and volley. Federer and Djoko have way more technique IMHO..Problem for Nadal, unlike Federer slices, Djoko have an aggressive backhand and Nadal topspin don't touch him at all. Djoko crushed Nadal just with his backhand, as Nadal insisted to put the ball up....Very easy game..Federer should tape this game and work..
Well done Djoko.
|Mar-30-14|| ||Jim Bartle: The question has to be based on results, not style. As much as I wish it were Federer, Nadal has by far the best record in matches among the top four. In fact he's the only one with a winning record, and he's around 65%.|
That's not definitive but it's some evidence.
|Mar-30-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Only saw the last two games today, but what a brilliant match point.|
|Mar-30-14|| ||KKDEREK: <Nadal has by far the best record in matches among the top four>
Problem is that nobody can touch him on clay..If you check hard courts and grass results is different..For example, Djoko leads 14-7 in last 21 games at hard court against Nadal. Even Fed and Nadal have a much more balanced score. Also shows how Federer are a complete player, also great at clay, but of course couldn't match the best eve player on clay.|
Results? So why the question should not be based on "results"? Fed have more GS so far..
|Mar-30-14|| ||Xenon Oxide: <Jim Bartle: The question has to be based on results, not style. As much as I wish it were Federer, Nadal has by far the best record in matches among the top four. In fact he's the only one with a winning record, and he's around 65%.
That's not definitive but it's some evidence.>|
Timing matters, though. I find Federer's score against the top 4 very impressive because a large part of the peak of the 3 others coincides with Federer's declining age, yet he still maintains a very respectable score.
|Mar-30-14|| ||Jim Bartle: Yes, I thought about mentioning that. The results are distorted a bit because so many of the matches were on clay. |
<Results? So why the question should not be based on "results"? Fed have more GS so far..>
Thebiggest <result> of all, I agree.
My point was that results are what matter, not what a player's game looks like.
|Mar-30-14|| ||Olavi: One could also argue that the reason why Federer-Nadal is so lopsided is that Fed is(was) better on clay than Nad is(was) on hard court... perhaps not entirely unbiased!|
|Mar-30-14|| ||Jim Bartle: 10 of their first 17 matches, through the 2008 French were on clay, and Nadal won nine of the ten. The reason so many were on clay, as <olavi> suggested, is that Federer kept winning until he met Nadal, while in those years Nadal was often knocked out on other surfaces before he could play Federer.|
Federer's years of real hard/grass dominance were 2004-2007 (right?), when he only lost a handful of matches a year, yet Nadal only played him 7 times in four years.
|Mar-30-14|| ||KKDEREK: Good point <jb>.
Also Fed <still> Fed have a minimum edge against Djoko, I find that impressive as he's already 32.
Anyway, Djoko starting to play like 2011. Thats looks bleak for everyone. And Nadal so far didn't show his best..
Luckily for him, the clay season will starts now . He better take over, because the way Fed and Djoko are playing he will have problems in the summer ..
|Mar-31-14|| ||achieve: Nadal's game is based on a few pillars, none of which are among the technically refined or creative/artistic ones. Oddly enough his finishing at the net is a pure pleasure for the eye, esp. that BH high or low volley, but with his FH's violent follow through around and to the back he mostly is forced to stay back, laws of Physics.
No classical approach opportunity of any kind.
But numbers? What seems to be conveniently forgotten is the slowing down of courts, plus homogenization, allowing Nadal to employ the violent topspin with unprecedented advantage and success, just taylor made for his qualities, but players are beginning to adjust for that, and organizers and also ITF officials are allowing for faster surfaces, lower bounces and the re-emergence of some faster balls reduces Nadal chances to dominate there.
Things to be taken into consideration.
|Apr-05-14|| ||Jim Bartle: A general question: Can a non-power player be a consistent top-ten player today? I mean somebody like McEnroe, Chang, Wilander, Mecir, Monfils, Coria, maybe Hewitt or even Rafter.|
I think the player would really have to be exceptional if he didn't have powerful ground strokes.
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