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Hans-Joachim Federer
Number of games in database: 1
Years covered: 2001
Last FIDE rating: 2004
Highest rating achieved in database: 2043

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(born Oct-13-1950, 65 years old) Germany

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Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. L Krizsany vs H J Federer 1-024 2001 openE73 King's Indian

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  WannaBe: How the heck does <JB> gets away with duplicate posts!??!

Here's my 'gripe', without a playoff, a player can finish in the semi, or finals, or maybe even quarters consistently and not win a major, and still be ranked number one.

Na Li won the Aussie Open, Michael Chang won the French (if I recall) and I do not think they were ever ranked number one.

Whatever that have to do with winning a major and being ranked number one hundred, or not.

Feb-01-16  Jim Bartle: The women's rankings are set up to reward playing lots of tournaments. So players like Wozniacki and Safina can play week after week, winning or reaching the semis, and can be ranked highly even without winning or reaching the final rounds of majors.

For that reason Serena, Henin and others have at times not been ranked at anywhere near the true strength, because at times they didn't play many tournaments.

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  WannaBe: Ah, shoot, you deleted the duplicate post, now everyone'll think I'm crazy.

How do you do that? Is there a time lag and you clicked post twice? How does the software not detect that?!

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  chancho: That <WannaBe> is mucho loco!
Feb-01-16  Jim Bartle: There was no duplicate post.
Feb-01-16  Jim Bartle: There was no duplicate post
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  WannaBe: Bwahahahahah!!!
Feb-01-16  HeMateMe: aren't the mens and womens players ranked using the same system?
Feb-01-16  Jim Bartle: No, I believe they are different. Men's is run by the ATP, women's by the WTA.
Feb-01-16  HeMateMe: I find it hard to believe that organizers would allow a player to end run the system by simply playing more events. That would be like Loek van Wely being rated higher than Carlsen if Loek played in twice as many events?
Feb-01-16  Jim Bartle: It's simple. The WTA wants to encourage players to play more events. That's why Serena entered some majors seeded 8th or 15th or whatever.
Feb-01-16  HeMateMe: doesn't that make the organizers look like fools, letting the best player be rated so lowly?
Feb-02-16  Agent Bouncy: Hi Jim Bartle,
The idea that WTA rankings are designed to reward the most active players is a common misconception. Go to WTA website and look at how the rankings are determined and it's easy to see that in fact the rankings are designed to reward success in the 4 slams and several other big tournaments. The smaller events do not offer many points, and winning 4, 5, or even 6 of them will not get you as much as a single slam 1/4 final! WTA is a marketing organization, and the big money comes in disproportionately from the few big events, so they are the ones that are promoted and (in my opinion) over-emphasized. No player can get to #1 just by winning a lot of small tournaments. It is necessary to perform well in the big ones also. Here is another point to consider. In the open era there have been 21 players who have made it to #1 in the WTA rankings, and there have been 44 different players who have won at least one grand slam. This seems to indicate that it is a significantly more difficult task to get to #1 than to win a slam. Considering Wozniacki, to stay at the top spot for as long as she did is a great accomplishment. She has not won a slam but during her best period she performed strongly and consistently in them. She does not get the credit she deserves.
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  WannaBe: <Agent Bouncy> Is 36-24-36 your career record in tournament play chess?
Feb-02-16  Jim Bartle: The fact remains that several players have reached number one without winning a major tournament. And Serena Williams' ranking has plummeted at times despite still having a good record in the majors, largely because she didn't play many tournaments.

Here's Wozniacki's record in majors in 2009-2010: 3rd round, 3rd round, 4th round, losing finalist (US Open), semifinal, 3rd round, 4th round, semifinal.

Yet that was her record in the majors when she was ranked #1 from the end of 2009 and all of 2010. She was ranked ahead of (for example) Serena Williams, who had WON four of those eight slams.

How did that happen? She won nine lesser tournaments in those two years, while Serena only won four, largely because Serena didn't play much outside the big tournaments.

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  perfidious: <Jim....Wozniacki's record in majors in 2009-2010: 3rd round, 3rd round, 4th round, losing finalist (US Open), semifinal, 3rd round, 4th round, semifinal....>

Taken on its own, that is suggestive of a solid pro, hardly someone laying claim to numero uno.

Feb-02-16  Jim Bartle: In the late 90s Marcelo Rios of Chile was ranked #1 despite a decent/not great record in the previous majors (losing in quarterfinals, reaching one final, getting crushed by Korda). But he rolled through three Masters level tournaments (Indian Wells, Miami, Italian Open) in just three months. I don't think he was number one but it wasn't ridiculous.
Feb-02-16  Keyser Soze: <jim> Rios was great I remember him. He was the first latin american player to reach the plateau.

Flawless technique. But he was the <only> player who managed to reach the n.1 spot (briefly) <without> win a single GS. He`s the exception.

Feb-02-16  Agent Bouncy: Hi Jim Bartle,
I hope you aren't misinterpreting my posts. By no means was I saying or implying that Wozniacki is a better tennis player than S Williams. Not even I am that silly.
Feb-02-16  Jim Bartle: In truth I had forgotten about Wozniacki, who was a factor for several years. I admire her for her return to the top five after she had dropped to ten or fifteen, that must have taken a lot of work.

Still, it just appears to be against her nature to be aggressive and go for winners.

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  valiant: Hans-Joachim Federer (kibitz #1170) <HeMateMe: Somewhere along the line, Ilie Nastase started using the oversized "Spaghetti" racket, which was soon banned.>

Spaghetti strung racquets got banned in 1977 after a Vilas-Nastase match ...

Video-comment: "Tiriac also said the decision to allow this racquet was to be expected because someone worked hard to invent it, but that it changes the game and we’ll have to get used to it because if Vilas plays with that racquet the ball will bounce over the stands. Finally, in his opinion, Borg, Vilas and Solomon would benefit the most from that racquet."

Feb-02-16  HeMateMe: I'm glad that Serena's rating dropped if she only played in a few events. There has to be some sort of minimum, to hold your rating place. This can't be the Topalov technique, where you play a bare minimum of events each year and hold a high ranking. One must fight to defend points.

I would liken Wozniak's high rating to Jimmy Connors staying in the top 20 until he was about 37 years old, always consistently making it to a certain round in most events, playing a lot, and having a competent showing in all of the slams, without ever really having a chance to win, after the age of 33.

Feb-02-16  Jim Bartle: I wonder if her occasional low ranking and seeding bothered the other top players more than it did her. If she was ranked 15th, she could meet one of the top seeds in the fourth round, rather than in the semis or the final. Tough road for the other players.

Serena is still on top at age 34. I strongly suspect this is largely because she has played so few tournaments though her career. She just has not gotten burned out or suffered too many injuries.

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  strifeknot: Knee surgery is going to keep Federer off the court for a month:

I hope he can recover enough to perform well at Roland Garros.

Feb-03-16  Jim Bartle: Is this Federer's first surgery, at age 34?
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