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Dec-09-23
 | | saffuna: I think Connors vs. Navratilova qualified as an exhibition. Players often play less than their best, even throw sets, in exhibitions. McEnroe admits to losing games (but not matches) intentionally. Anybody who bets on exhibitions needs his head examined. |
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Dec-09-23
 | | HeMateMe: Connors admitted to a $1M bet during the match. |
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Dec-16-23
 | | HeMateMe: I was watching this 'Strange Deaths' show on the history channel, narrated by dan Akyroyd, of all people. They spoke of a tennis match years ago, the boys Junior championship at Forest hills, Stefan edberg against a fellow from Australia. The linesmen then stood right near the white lines. Edberg was a hard server. He hit a serve in which the ball made a funny jump as it hit the surface. The ball corkscrewed and hit the linesman in the nutts, knocking him over. Guy landed hard on his back and had a hematoma. He died that day in the hospital. FWIW, edberg won the match. |
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Dec-16-23
 | | saffuna: Well, let's see. You've got some of it right... It was a first-round match in 1983 in the regular US Open (not juniors, and not Forest Hills) against American Aaron Krickstein. People can be excused for thinking it was the juniors, as Edberg was 17 and Krickstein 16. An Edberg serve hit the center-service-line linesman, who was seated, in the genitals. He fell backward and hit his head against the cement and lost consciousnes. The blow eventually led to the linesman's death, and after that year linesmen stood rather than sat. Krickstein won the match in a fifth-set tiebreak, and went on to defeat Vitas Gerulaitis before losing to Yannick Noah in the fourth round. |
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Dec-16-23
 | | HeMateMe: Nope, I watched the show two hours ago. They said it was the juniors and that edberg beat a guy from Australia. Maybe history channels crack research team got it wrong? Writers make mistakes covering chess, why not tennis. |
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Dec-16-23
 | | HeMateMe: In the singles final edberg beat Australian Youl 6-4, 6-4. |
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Dec-16-23
 | | saffuna: Yep, looks like I messed this one up.
Edberg played in the regular US Open but then played in the concurrent junior Open after he had been eliminated. It was at Flushing Meadows, not Forest Hills. The linesman was judging the center service line, and seated, not standing, judging which was presumably the reason he couldn't get out of the way. He hit his head and died five days later. Hitting the center linesman is not unusual, especially on outside courts which may have less space around the court. Apparently Edberg's serve was long, and as he normally hit with a lot of spin (not flat), an unusual bounce may have caught the linesman offguard. |
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Dec-17-23
 | | HeMateMe: I had no idea that was allowed--a tennis player can play a junior event and then play the masters side, if he has the talent? Why wouldn't a talented youth just play in the main draw, try and max his rating then and there? |
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Dec-17-23 | | areknames: Speaking of Edberg, I remember being on the same Milano-Stockholm flight in late 1988. No first class for him, he just travelled (solo) coach like the rest of us plebeians, no one bothered him and upon arrival I saw him go to a payphone to make a call. Now this guy is number 2 or 3 in the world and earlier in the year has spanked Becker thanks to his murderous serve to win Wimbledon for the first time, he's already got more money than he will ever need yet he travels coach? I wonder how many elite players would do that today? Yeah, my thoughts too... |
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Dec-18-23
 | | HeMateMe: Didn't Sweden have a murderous tax rate back then, sort of like Norway's? Something like 60%? I hope he saved his money, didn't screw it up like Borg did. I liked watching Edberg play. The new racquets/string technology shortened his career. If wooden racquets with nylon cat-gut stringing had stayed the norm, the game would be better today. People like Edberg and Martina Hingis could have had longer careers. They were 'served off the court' as the saying goes. McEnroe too, and the girl that got stabbed by a Steffi Graf fan. Doesn't bother me at all that a Jimmy Connors would have won fewer events without steel racquets. Wood racquets worked just fine for Rod Laver and Navratilova. I've always enjoyed the players with great shot placement and fitness. Titanium racquets with high tension stringing took that away. |
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Dec-18-23
 | | saffuna: Edberg was always pretty modest. He was Federer's coach for several years, you'd hardly know it. <thanks to his murderous serve> Edberg had a very strong serve, but it wss never one of the fastest. He was always hit his first serve with spin so it would bounce higher and he'd have half a second more to get closer to the net, where he was best volleyed in history. |
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Mar-03-24
 | | HeMateMe: in this month's SI L. John Wertheim has a story on Djokovic, claiming the Serb "is once and for all, the GOAT!" He's basing that on most majors won, the longevity factor. I'd have to say it's still a three way tie, Fed, Rafa and the Joker. I think his record is about .500 against the other two? Federer and Rafa have had more injuries than ND, RF was forced to retire because of a balky knee. |
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Jul-08-24
 | | jinkinson: Why is there so much kibitzing here? Is it all Roger Federer-related? |
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Jul-08-24
 | | perfidious: <saffuna: Match fixing is a big problem in lower-level tennis tournaments. But typically the players, not the umpires.> The most recent example being Jasmina Tinjic, a player of whom I had never heard before reading accounts of her suspension this past weekend: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/te... |
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Jul-19-24
 | | perfidious: A list bound to stir up a hornet's nest--ESPN's Top 100 Athletes of the 21st Century, with Serena Williams ranked second, Federer sixth and Djokovic 11th, with Nadal 12th: <....Djokovic being ranked outside the top 10 seems a bit harsh on the Serbian. The 37-year-old is still competing at the top level and has a chance to further improve his record. Djokovic has already moved past Federer in terms of a majority of tennis achievements, including the number of Grand Slams won by an individual.With Djokovic ranked five places below Federer in the ESPN list, one wonders if the ranking is fair to Novak Djokovic....> https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/te... |
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Oct-10-24
 | | perfidious: Nadal says sayonara following a brilliant career: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/te... |
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Jan-20-25
 | | perfidious: An attempt at humour by an Australian journalist with Djokovic falls flat: <Novak Djokovic declined a post-match TV interview after winning in the fourth round of the Australian Open after an on-air personality from the local Australian broadcaster of the tournament made negative comments about him in front of Serbian fans.On Friday, Channel 9's Tony Jones did a segment with Djokovic fans standing behind him at Melbourne Park. Jones proceeded to do his own chant and called the 24-time Grand Slam champion "overrated" and a "has-been" on air. He also said "kick him out," which was a reference to Djokovic's deportation from Australia in 2022. Following his win against Jiri Lehecka, Djokovic briefly grabbed the mic and thanked those in attendance with a quick statement, then walked away from the post-match interview. He did stay to sign autographs, but got some boos from the crowd. Djokovic later shared a video explaining why he didn't want to speak more. "A few days ago, a famous sports journalist here from Australia who works for a main broadcaster of the Australian Open, Channel 9, decided to mock Serbian fans and he made insulting and offensive comments towards me," Djokovic said. Djokovic apologized to the reporter who was going to interview him post-match, Jim Courier, and to others who were not involved in the situation. However, he felt strongly about his decision because neither Jones nor Channel 9 had offered an apology. "I have to stand by my decision and hold this stance until something is done," he said. "I leave it to Channel 9 and hopefully that situation will change for the next match." Djokovic is the most successful player in Australian Open history with 10 titles, the most recent happening just two years ago. The incident with Channel 9 blew up and even Australian prime minister Anthony Albanese was asked about it in a radio interview. He described Djokovic as a "fine tennis player" and said there was "place for more respect." It appears the message was received by the broadcaster. "I considered it to be humor, which is consistent with most things I do..." Jones said on Sunday. "Having said that, I was made aware on Saturday morning from Tennis Australia via the Djokovic camp that the Djokovic camp was not happy at all with those comments. I immediately contacted the Djokovic camp and issued an apology to them for any disrespect that Novak felt that I caused. As I stand here now, I stand by that apology to Novak if he felt any disrespect, which quite clearly he does." Jones also addressed the Serbian fans.
"I do feel as though I've let down the Serbian fans," he said. "I'm not just saying this to try and wriggle out of trouble or anything. I genuinely feel for those fans. So, I can only again tell Novak what I told him 48 hours ago. And that is I do apologize if he felt that I disrespected him."....> https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/ne... |
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Jan-20-25 | | areknames: <perf> the sizeable Serbian-Australian community here, not just the tennis fans, are quite upset with Jones' stupid attempts at 'humour'. The Serbian ambassador has actually demanded his resignation from Channel 9. |
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Jan-21-25 | | areknames: Djokovic has just defeated Alcaraz 3-1 to reach the semifinal. My TV screen informed me that the age gap of almost 16 years between the players was the biggest in a Grand Slam qf since Connors vs. Agassi in the 1989 US open. Some of those exchanges from the baseline were epic, Novak is just incredible. |
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Jan-21-25
 | | saffuna: Hard to watch the Australian Open while in the West Coast of the US, as matches start in the middle of the night. I did see a little. Both Djokovic and Alcaraz were playing great, with Alcaraz missing a little more often. Djokovic just puts constant pressure on opponents, taking the ball early and hitting it flat and deep or with at sharp angles. |
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Jan-21-25
 | | saffuna: <My TV screen informed me that the age gap of almost 16 years between the players was the biggest in a Grand Slam qf since Connors vs. Agassi in the 1989 US open.> In a quarterfinal yes. But 42-year-old Connors played 20-year-old Jim Courier in the 1991 US Open semis. The gap between Rosewall and Connors in the 1974 US and Wimbledon finals was 19 years. (And it showed.) |
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Jan-21-25
 | | HeMateMe: The women's game seems strange, a new leader every three months. People taking mental health breaks. I'd love to have that pressure, where winning a tennis final gets you $1M and losing gets you only $400k. I think I could handle it. I need that sort of pressure. |
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Jan-21-25
 | | saffuna: <The women's game seems strange, a new leader every three months. People taking mental health breaks.> In tennis? The emotions of the women players are closer to the surface. They do go up and down a bit, but it's emphasized because of the emphasis on the emotional aspect. Coco Gauff was defeated yesterday by solid young Emma Navarro. Rybakina is out. I think Sabalenka and Swiatek are both still in the running, along with delightful Paula Badosa, returning from a trip to the bottom. |
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Jan-24-25
 | | HeMateMe: geez, I keep thinking the USA could break out. Did we get a man (a MAN!) in the Aussie semis? |
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Mar-12-25
 | | perfidious: <Finally the Serena clown show comes to a close. And how fitting that it was an Australian that finished the old hippo's career. Despite repeated attempts, Serena was never able to equal the career grand slams of Margaret Smith-Court, who remains the greatest women's tennis player of all time with 24 major singles titles including a calendar year grand slam.> Yeah, Court is the GOAT, <suboptimal maggot>. |
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