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|Jun-29-17|| ||Annie K.: Your wish is our command... ;)|
|Jun-29-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: User: wow|
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|Jul-24-17|| ||OhioChessFan: ** Urgent Announcement **
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|Jul-27-17|| ||moronovich: Hi <Switch> !
Just dropped by to say hello and hope that you are all right !?
All the best - moro - .
|Jul-27-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <moronovich> Thanks for dropping by, and best of luck for your life and the Summer Leg! :)|
I'm my normal self, just not spending much time on Chessgames.
|Jul-27-17|| ||moronovich: Thanks <Switch> !|
Good to hear,and good luck with your endeavors.
|Jul-29-17|| ||WinKing: Hi SwitchingQuylthulg,
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|Aug-30-17|| ||ahmadov: Just recently learned that a Russian wrote an interesting book about his admiration to Finland and about how the Finnish managed to build a great country. That book is titled "The country of white lilies" and was written early 20th century. It is said that Ataturk of Turkey was so impressed about the book that he ordered that the book was taught at schools all over Turkey.
I started reading the book and I found that not much has changed since then - Russians still admire and respect the achievements of some small nations, but never manage to make a change in their own country.|
|Aug-30-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <ahmadov> Hi, nice to see you again! :)|
It's not easy to change things in a country; countries, and the people in them, have a lot of inertia. Just as well - that's why Finland is still Finland, and Azerbaijan is still Azerbaijan, even after long periods of Russian occupation. But it also means Russia has retained its essential Russianness through times of political upheaval. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
|Aug-31-17|| ||ahmadov: Well, the very difficult question to answer is who/what is to blame? Is it the people, the historical background, neighbors...? How come the Finnish manage to astonish the world with their education system, but others cannot copy that? Finally, how long shall we, the people's in Russian neighborhood, will live in this difficult situation?|
|Aug-31-17|| ||ahmadov: Meanwhile, I am also surprised at your conservativeness :-) The world has changed, the Americans elected a president like Mr. Trump, but you are still in this profile picture :-)|
|Aug-31-17|| ||ahmadov: If you are surprised at me remembering you and coming back to this forum after a long while, note that any time when I read about Finland and the Finnish, this associates with you. So you are the first Finnish for me, due to the very interesting time we spent on this web site a few years back, before facebook completely occupied me and my time :-)|
|Aug-31-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <ahmadov: How come the Finnish manage to astonish the world with their education system, but others cannot copy that?>|
No school before the age-7 year, short school days, long recesses - anything to keep the kids from actually spending time in class. Not very much homework. Students who have no respect for their teachers. Teachers who aren't competent enough to deserve the students' respect. Education that's dumbed down enough that retarded ants, and 85% of Finnish schoolchildren, can (eventually) understand what's being said. Remedial education for the other 15%. Such a thing as free lunch. Ice hockey lessons.
Somehow it works for most people, but it does have some deep problems. In any case, it's hardly a mystery if others can't copy it; no one else has the nerve to run their schools that way.
My approach, historically, has been to always blame peoples. Russia has gone through any number of political systems, but it's always had the same people - and the various political systems in Russia, while in some ways wildly unlike each other, have also had many similarities; which is no coincidence. So it's not surprising the same internal problems have persisted in Russia.
The things that give outsiders more immediate reasons to worry, though - like Russia's tendency to meddle in the affairs of other countries and occasionally conquer or occupy them - probably have an even simpler origin than that: Russia does that stuff because it's strong enough to get away with it. Historically, superpowers nearly always meddle in the affairs of other countries and occasionally conquer or occupy them; and the geography is particularly favorable for Russia to do so, since it's surrounded by many weaker, smaller countries and only one big one, China. Unsurprisingly, Russia deals with China in a very different way compared to its other neighbors.
There's also the great Russian myth, which holds the whole place together; the shared, purely memetic components that tell the people what Russia means, and what being Russian means, and thereby make one people of them and shape them. I'm not entirely sure what the great Russian myth actually <is>; you probably know it better than I do. But I think it has features that reinforce Russia's tendency to meddle in external affairs; features that, again, are not unusual in superpowers. Compare the American notion of "manifest destiny" - which lives on today, as Americans barely blink at the idea of their country telling everybody else what they should do. The basic idea is probably "we can do this stuff because it's us."
<Finally, how long shall we, the people's in Russian neighborhood, will live in this difficult situation?>
I'm counting on something wiping out mankind before the Russians come here again :) I think <dakgootje> looked into it and found that it's surprisingly difficult to actually kill all humans; but I'm confident that we can find a way.
<facebook completely occupied me and my time :-)>
Sorry about that; we should have warned you about Facebook before it was too late.
|Sep-06-17|| ||ahmadov: <Switch>, thanks for sharing your thoughts on Russia and its relations with its neighbors. The problem is that Russia simply cannot be a democracy. As soon as it is a democracy, it will fall apart. And many Russians understand this very well, hence so much love and respect for Putin, IMHO.|
Some people find positive consequences of Russian occupation of its neighbors, particularly in the South Caucasus and Central Asia. They say that Russia, particularly, the Soviet Union brought education, cultural development and a lot of knowledge to these regions. But I was surprised at how positively the aforementioned book presents Russia's occupation of Finland in early 19th century. When I read it, I had an impression that in fact, Russia did not occupy Finland, but it liberated this country from the occupation of Sweden. I really find it very interesting. But of course, I am aware that the Finnish are currently very worried about a potential Russian attack on their country and that they even consider joining NATO. At least, this is what I heard from an EU official from Finland, with whom I had a chance to chat about all this a few months ago in Baku.
|Sep-06-17|| ||ahmadov: <Sorry about that; we should have warned you about Facebook before it was too late.>|
Well, but in our context, facebook is also a great platform for sharing your independent views on political, economic and social life of the country, and get others' views on them. Otherwise, there are not a lot of alternative media where you can get independent information and analysis in this country. I hope it will not be closed down in the future for us.
Meanwhile, I still encourage you to register there :)
|Sep-06-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: <ahmadov: Some people find positive consequences of Russian occupation of its neighbors, particularly in the South Caucasus and Central Asia. They say that Russia, particularly, the Soviet Union brought education, cultural development and a lot of knowledge to these regions. But I was surprised at how positively the aforementioned book presents Russia's occupation of Finland in early 19th century. When I read it, I had an impression that in fact, Russia did not occupy Finland, but it liberated this country from the occupation of Sweden. I really find it very interesting.>|
You shouldn't take everything in books like that at face value!
That said, while the early-19th-century Russian conquest of Finland was certainly not a liberation from "Swedish occupation", it was also not - to begin with - brutal or oppressive (nothing like the Russian military occupation of Finland in the 1710s had been). After the war had ended and the smoke had cleared, life in Finland continued more or less as it had under Swedish rule; the same laws applied; the old culture was maintained; and Finland did gain some autonomy. The oppression came later, in the late 19th and early 20th century; and it of course had an effect exactly opposite from the intended Russification of Finland.
But few, if any, Finns of the time viewed Finland as being "occupied by Sweden" in the first place before the Russian conquest of 1809; Finland was simply part of Sweden, and not all of it was even viewed as a unit. Finnish nationalism didn't really become a thing until after the Russian conquest.
(Finland did differ from core Sweden in that most of the population was Finnish-speaking; but Swedish was the language of the upper class, even after the Russian conquest. And the boundaries of Finland don't follow linguistic lines; Finland includes Swedish-speaking areas, even the unilingually Swedish-speaking Ĺland, while some parts of Sweden that were then largely Finnish-speaking remained under Swedish control.)
<<Switch>, thanks for sharing your thoughts on Russia and its relations with its neighbors. The problem is that Russia simply cannot be a democracy. As soon as it is a democracy, it will fall apart. And many Russians understand this very well, hence so much love and respect for Putin, IMHO.>
You are probably right; at the very least, it would take a very long time, and much effort, to make a democracy of Russia.
<But of course, I am aware that the Finnish are currently very worried about a potential Russian attack on their country and that they even consider joining NATO. At least, this is what I heard from an EU official from Finland, with whom I had a chance to chat about all this a few months ago in Baku.>
Our whole history is a history of Russian attacks; but while Russia is Finland's main external threat, most people don't see a Russian attack as imminent. The NATO discussion has been brewing for quite a while, and the argument for joining NATO can be pretty much summed up in the one word "Russia"; but so far it hasn't happened, and a slight majority of Finns oppose it. (That in itself shows that a Russian attack isn't seen as imminent; if we thought Russia was seriously planning to invade Finland we would swallow our misgivings and join NATO before you could say Mack Robinson.)
Note that most countries near Finland, including former Soviet republics Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, have already joined NATO. To some extent that increases pressure on Finland to join NATO as well - if everybody else joins NATO and we do not, we're left as a natural target if Russia starts feeling expansionist. But apart from the NATO discussion, there's also talk of closer military co-operation between EU countries, which has been picking up in the age of Trump.
|Sep-13-17|| ||ahmadov: I am a bit surprised at these different views of relations between Finns-Swedish-Russians in the first half of the 19th century. Indeed, history can be told in different ways, so one needs to read different accounts to make sure that he/she does not fall under the propaganda of any side.
As for the Finland's NATO membership and closer EU military cooperation, unfortunately, this is today's bad reality, when in fact, nations should abandon weapons gradually.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: The situations did have (and still have today!) some large differences (the relationship between Azerbaijan and Iran now is nothing like the relationship between Finland and Sweden now); but there are still many significant similarities between the conquest of Swedish-ruled Finland by Russia in the early 19th century and the conquest of Iranian-ruled Azerbaijan by Russia in the early 19th century. |
Just as the Finns were an ethnically and linguistically distinct population that had been ruled by Sweden for untold years and had a culture and religion similar to core Sweden (with the expected regional differences), so were the Azeris with respect to Iran; and just as the geographical boundary between Finland and Sweden - leaving much of then-Finnish-speaking Torne Valley on the Swedish side - was set by the Russian conquest, so the boundary between Azerbaijan and Iran - leaving today's Iranian Azerbaijan on the Iranian side - was set by the Russian conquest. And as far as I know, Azerbaijani nationalism wasn't really a thing before that, at least not a big thing, the same way Finnish nationalism wasn't.
Azerbaijan, of course, didn't become an autonomous Grand Duchy under Russian rule like Finland did; but what happened then still set the stage for today's independent Azerbaijan with its modern boundaries.
I'm curious to know how the Russian conquest of Azerbaijan from Iran has been treated in later Azeri - and Russian - historiography, and whether it's viewed as a liberation of the country from Iranian occupation :)
|Sep-23-17|| ||Annie K.: <Switch> hi... update on your intentions WRT running the next Bookie leg plz? ;)|
|Oct-08-17|| ||ahmadov: <Switch>, sorry for coming back to your post on comparing Russia-Finland-Sweden with Russia-Azerbaijan-Iran so late. I should say I am astonished by your knowledge and interest in the history of relations between Russia and Azerbaijan/Iran. I should say I have an impression that Russia treated Finland with more respect than Azerbaijan after it occupied them in the start of the 19th century. Even though the book I mentioned above says that alcoholism, depression and poverty were prevailing in Finland those times, it seems that still the country had respected intellegencia with whom Russia counted with. I do not think that Russia showed similar respect to the South Caucasus countries (Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia) at the time. As for turks/Azeris in Iran, in fact, Azeris were the rulers of Iran at a certain period of history. The zenith of Azeri rule was when one of the most popular and powerful shahs of Iran, Shah Ismail Khatai, conquered 14 countries within 14 years, as we always cite Marx writing. Shah Ismail was an Azeri and all his diplomatic communication was in our language. However, within approximately 100 or so years Azeri rulers gradually lost their power to Percians in Iran. Despite all our historical joint background, today only a minority Azeri religious shias would wish to have something common with Persians. The general public opinion in Azerbaijan about the turks/Azeris in Iran is as follows: nationalists in this country wish that the Azeri provinces in northen Iran become independent one day and we have a united Azerbaijan, whereas many of us, including myself, believe that it is just nonsense, and that as long as the Azeris in Iran are happy, we do not care whether they are independent or not. PS: In Iran, there are around 25 million Azeris/turks, in independent Azerbaijan, we are only 9.8 million. I hope this post answered your question.|
|Nov-03-17|| ||brankat: Hi Switch!
How have You been? I see You have become one of CG.com's editors. Congratulations!
Have a question for You. And I hope that, perhaps You can help me with this.
It has to do with the Chessgames Analysis Lab. I tried to use it today to analyse a position. I've never used an engine before.
So, predictably, I got nowhere. Must be doing something wrong.
1. Entered the FEN.
2. Clicked on "Top move only".
3. Left the Fumes at the default #1, 15 seconds eval, I think.
At first it tells me to wait for 15 seconds, then I'm informed that the position can not be analysed.
A minute later the thing seems to be working. It says Evaluation time 15 sec, Elapsed time 00:16:53. Which puzzles me.
Anyhow, it's been sitting at this for last 3 hours.
So, how is it supposed to be done?
Thank You. Take care.
|Nov-03-17|| ||brankat: I just checked the Lab page. Seems to be even worse. Now it states: 02:05:23 !|
Analysis in progress.
Does it take hours. If so, then what does 15 secs eval mean?
|Nov-04-17|| ||SwitchingQuylthulg: Hi <brankat>! :)|
The Lab is fairly new, and I don't have a lot of experience with it yet; the only time I've used it before was when I ran a bunch of 1-hour analyses on E Nikolic vs Fischer, 1968 (kibitz #55) last week. (I experimented with it a bit now, trying to see if I could reproduce your problem.) In any case, a 15-second position analysis should be over in 15 seconds.
It's possible that there are still bugs with the Lab because it's so new; but my first guess would be that you gave it a bad FEN and that threw it off big-time. (I was able to replicate the behavior you described by purposely giving the Lab a bad FEN to analyse.) Note that the Lab is pickier about FEN than the kibitzing area; a "position only" FEN string like rq1r4/pb2bkp1/1p2pn2/nP4N1/3P4/P5P1/1B2QP1P/R4RK1 is enough to produce a diagram, but the Lab needs a full FEN string that also contains information about the side to move, castling rights and move number; e.g. rq1r4/pb2bkp1/1p2pn2/nP4N1/3P4/P5P1/1B2QP1P/R4RK1 b - - 0 22. If you either omitted or accidentally clipped that additional information from the FEN that would probably explain what happened.
If the analysis is still under way, terminate it and try again.
|Nov-04-17|| ||brankat: Thank You my friend.
The engine "accepted" the FEN, produced the diagram and "White to move" bit. Didn't tell me anything about additional
Anyways, the analysis is still in "progress", 19: 07: 31 :-)
So, yes, I'll terminate the thing and try again.
|Nov-04-17|| ||brankat: Hi again!
You were right (as usual) about the full FEN string with more info. It worked like charm, in 15 seconds!
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