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Viewer Deluxe
Member since Dec-03-07 · Last seen Oct-08-08
On this forum you can share your experience using <Chess Viewer Deluxe> (CVD) and also provide feedback and/or suggestions for new features. You are welcome to ask general Java installation and troubleshooting questions but those that are platform specific remain JVM vendor’s responsibility. Some common Java installation problems and good suggestions have been already posted here and if you’re lucky enough they may apply to your situation.
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   Viewer Deluxe has kibitzed 102 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Oct-04-08 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: <MostlyAverageJoe>, I like your guide to “permanent links”. I agree that it would be great if we had a simpler way of getting those but until then we have your guide. I remember a question raised by <hms123> recently about some form of “History of your own visits” ...
 
   Sep-30-08 Popert vs Staunton, 1840 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: I’m not surprised but my chess engine is telling me that White is winning after: 33. b6 Qd6 (33... h4 34. bxc7 hxg3+ 35. Kxg3 Rxf1 36. Rxf1 Rxf1 37. Nxf1) 34. Nf5 Nxf5 35. Qxf4 The line is convincing enough for me but I can’t be sure based on my chess skills alone.
 
   Sep-21-08 Kaidanov vs L Kritz, 2008 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: I can’t see any point in 38.Bc2 but I refuse to call it a blunder when a GM plays it. It seems that GM Kaidanov might have missed a win in this line: 27. Bxh6 gxh6 (27... Na5 Better defense. 28. Bc2) 28. Qxh6 Ne5 ...
 
   Aug-28-08 E Lowe vs Staunton, 1847 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: It seems like Staunton missed a win after: 48... Re5+ 49. Kg4 (49. Kh6 Qf8+ Mates in four 50. g7 Qf6+ 51. Qg6 Qf4+) 49... Rg5+ 50. Kh3 Rxg3+
 
   Aug-24-08 Lutikov vs Tal, 1964
 
Viewer Deluxe: Thanks for your kind words, <johnlspouge>. I couldn’t put this summary any better than you. <zooter>, underpromotion has always been there from day one (v 3.0). How would I dare call a chess viewer “Deluxe” without underpromotion? Look on the chessboard context ...
 
   Aug-10-08 Viewer Deluxe chessforum
 
Viewer Deluxe: That’s a very interesting idea, <GeauxCool> A simple FEN search like that will give us more power. The problem is that searching and other DB functions go far beyond the functionality of CVD. Such software was developed by CG.com and they are in charge of enhancing it. I
 
   Jul-24-08 Carlsen vs Y Pelletier, 2008 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: Very deep and detailed analyses of this game by GM Cebalo can be found at the tournament site or here http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpB... .
 
   Jun-20-08 B Ivanovic vs Velimirovic, 1981 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: <latebishop> I was working on the exact same line. It fails to 25...Rd4 26. Rd3 Rxd3 27. cxd3 Bxf6 28. Qxf6 Qxc3+ etc.
 
   Jun-10-08 Open Defence chessforum (replies)
 
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   May-08-08 Aronian vs Topalov, 2008 (replies)
 
Viewer Deluxe: In his on-line commentaries about the game on chesspro.ru http://www.chesspro.ru/chessonline/... russian GM Sergej Zagrebelniy calls Topalov "Made out of steel Terminator from Bulgaria"
 
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Jun-04-08
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  Viewer Deluxe: Advanced Java troubleshooting isn't a rocket science but some preparations are always a good idea. The first step is the java console which covers most common problems. Here is a short description of "Java Console": http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs...

Next step will be turning tracing and logging features. The results will be stored onto your local disk and the exact location depends on your platform. Here is a short description of "Tracing and Logging" http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs...

Next step will be to try setting the trace level to higher number (1-5). That way you might catch even deeper troubles but it gets less suitable for the faint of heart.

For Mac users I found this link "Overview of Java for Mac OS X" http://developer.apple.com/document...

Jun-05-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: A very <important warning> for those who're brave enough to play with trace levels (see above). When you're done with your tests double check that you turned off both logging and tracing. Otherwise you will experience fast degrading performance while potentially big amounts of trace/log data is being written to your local disk in the background. Once you change the settings you can make sure they will be in effect by closing all active browser windows.
Jun-09-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: I put together a simple test for some quick troubleshooting. Please, try it if you have problems loading games in CVD or just want to make sure that your Java installation is working fine.

"Platform compatibility quick test (for CVD)"
http://www.chessdiscussion.com/phpB...

Jun-10-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Red October: I was able to play through each and every one of those games, annotations, variations etc, no problems whatsoever
Jun-10-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Well done, <Red October>. This is good news and means that Mac OS, Safari and CVD can live together peacefully. Of course, such a quick test isn’t the ultimate proof and particular issues (like your own case) might still exist.

I do have some more ideas to share that might affect your configuration. First of all. Do you use any firewall or antivirus software? Not always, but some of those can affect your Web experience, so try turning them off. Same applies to any type of proxy that might eventually cache the Web pages. I’m not sure if similar effect can be caused by router software (if you have one) but you may want to eliminate that possibility to be certain for sure.

Jun-10-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Open Defence: <Nikolai> thanks, I just use a DSL modem so no other proxy configuration, I run Net Barrier but I dont see an option to turn it off
Jun-22-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hesam7: Apparently my problem is a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+...

Jun-22-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: Excellent resource, <Hesam7>. There is more bad news because people are reporting both OpenJDK <and> Sun’s Java 6 JRE problems. It doesn’t seem that FF3 is going to make our life easier. The good news is that some good suggestions are already available. As usual one should take extra care when setting things on Linux but eventually, I’m sure, everything should be back to normal. Please, share your experience and help others who will face the same issue.
Jun-23-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hesam7: <VD> for the time being I am using the old viewer. The other good news is that in the next couple of months Sun will make Java completely open source so in the worst case scenario by the next Ubuntu release (Intrepid Ibex, 30th October) everything will be fine.

Here is where I got the news for Java: http://developers.slashdot.org/deve...

Jun-24-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <Hesam7>, if a savvy user like you is giving up on the plug-in issues I wonder what the majority of ubuntu fans will do. The real good news would be if we had a solution in the present. I agree that OpenJDK should have a huge potential of changing the Java world. I’m still curious why the plug-in worked fine with FF2 and stopped working with FF3.
Jun-26-08
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  Hesam7: <VD> I do not count myself as a savvy user (my image of a savvy user is someone who runs Gentoo or Slackware and hacks into the kernel!). And as you mentioned the problem does not go away when one installs the Sun version I also recreated the symbolic links but it did not work.

I think the reason not that many people are complaining is that OpenJDK works for most of the purposes, I can still use the MyChess player for example.

Now that I am at it what do you think is the best Chess GUI for Linux? On the engine side Fruit 2.3.1 (UCI) has a Linux edition and is really strong but I have problems with GUIs.

Jul-13-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <Hesam7>, No matter what user classification we use a solution for such a problem should be available very soon. I expect JVM gurus to come up with at least a workaround sooner or later. Hopefully the plug-in troubles will not involve kernel changes.

I don’t recommend relying on a non-compliant partial implementation, for example, where MyChess (only) seems to work. For the record, CVD is not even using latest and greatest JVM features so I suspect many other applets will fail as well. Moreover, unstable environment like that can easily and unexpectedly break in more critical situations. Meeting the full specifications is not only possible but was already done more than once on different platforms.

I’m only a sporadic Linux user and I'd better not give you advice on any chess GUIs.

Jul-25-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <Hesam7>, It’s been a while since you first reported about your OpenJDK troubles on Linux. Is there any good news?
You are not talking about 64-bit Linux, are you? It seems (to me, at least) that 64-bit Java for Linux is not available yet and most people use hybrid 64/32 bit installations. Anyway, keep us posted if you get any working solutions.
Jul-28-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Hesam7: <VD> I have not done anything since the last time we spoke. I am using a 64-bit version of Ubuntu right now and yes there are always more problems with this version (for example couple of years ago the Flash players did not work on the 64-bit version).
Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: Im getting URL Exception on my site, need urgent help!
Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: my website is caribchess.net, anyway the thing is down for now, i get it up and running normally, but when i stick in to a cms it gives me the URL exception error message
Jul-29-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <Hesam7>, Even the original Sun’s 64-bit JVM doesn’t quite work inside browsers on 64-bit Linux. For example, on this page http://www.java.com/en/download/man... there is a note about 64-bit Linux (and Solaris) that says:

<“Please use the 32-bit version for Java applet and Java Web Start support.”>

On the other hand, I’m often getting feedback from Linux (Ubuntu, Suse) users using FF 3.0 and all’s well for most of them. I can’t be sure if they use 32-bit or 64-bit OS though.

<Z.Ramsay>, What does the URL Exception say? If the path to PGN file is invalid you need to fix it first. When you have your site up send us a link where we can see the problem.

Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: Arite im going to put the site up for a few hours so you can see....

here is the link: http://caribchess.net/index.php?opt...,

<applet codebase="." archive="Viewer-Deluxe.jar" code="ChessBoard.class" width="631" height="560"> <span name="LightSquares" value="F3DCC2"></span> <span name="DarkSquares" value="DDA37B"></span> <span name="Background" value="CCCCCC"></span> <span name="ImagesFolder" value="images"></span> <span name="PuzzleMode" value="off"></span> <span name="MayScript" value="on"></span> Your browser is completely ignoring the <APPLET> tag! </applet>

Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: thats how the html looks
thanks for the quick reply, i really need a quick solution
Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: heres the link again, http://caribchess.net/index.php?opt...
Jul-29-08   Z.Ramsay: sorry i let out the important line from the html:
<applet codebase="." archive="Viewer-Deluxe.jar" code="ChessBoard.class" width="631" height="560"> <span name="PgnGameFile" value="JAMCH2008.pgn"></span> <span name="LightSquares" value="F3DCC2"></span> <span name="DarkSquares" value="DDA37B"></span> <span name="Background" value="CCCCCC"></span> <span name="ImagesFolder" value="images"></span> <span name="PuzzleMode" value="off"></span> <span name="MayScript" value="on"></span> Your browser is completely ignoring the <APPLET> tag! </applet>
Jul-29-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: <Z.Ramsay>, You need a quick solution, you say! I’m yet to meet somebody that doesn’t :-)

You are in luck and I do have some good news for you. Try using PARAM instead of SPAN and you will be back in business. Note: PARAM doesn’t use a closing tag.

How did you end up using SPAN in first place?
If in doubt take a look at the documentation page for the correct format.

Jul-30-08   Z.Ramsay: Thanks it works great now...apparently Joomla! was automatically changing the PARAM to span, anyway got a different editor component and it worked out. Thanks much! I'm still not sure whether to use MyChess or Chess Viewer Deluxe though...
Aug-10-08   GeauxCool: I'd like to use middlegame positions to search the chessgames database.

Would it be possible for the Chessviewer to represent moves of a pgn file textually, with fen lines? Such lines could be stored in the database and would allow fen position searches.

Maybe you know of an easier way to search using positions?

Aug-10-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  Viewer Deluxe: That’s a very interesting idea, <GeauxCool>

A simple FEN search like that will give us more power. The problem is that searching and other DB functions go far beyond the functionality of CVD. Such software was developed by CG.com and they are in charge of enhancing it. I agree that it will be great if we had a way of searching for a particular position. On the other side I don’t know how feasible it is to implement the feature in a Web environment.

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