Since no one has scanned the book and put it online, please give us the entire context where the book mentions Torre. So far, all we have to work with is a quote that the book allegedly has.

More importantly, please explain to us why it is this quote makes the book a genuine work of the late Fischer. Please explain why this evidence is so compelling that it overturns the evidence proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the book was not written by Fischer, but is yet another Trice fraud.

Joshka (I, unlike other posters, assume you are not a Trice sockpuppet, but merely a sucker stupid enough to buy the book and now too prideful to admit you were conned), you are engaging in classic flawed reasoning.

The reasoning you are using is a classic fallacy used by people who believe conspiracy theories and other nonsense: "Since you can't refute this one piece of evidence, all of your other evidence is invalid".

You can not, if you wish to come up with a correct conclusion, look at one piece of evidence and ignore the rest of the evidence. I can, by looking at only one piece of evidence, and ignoring other evidence, argue the Earth is flat:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/liteh...

(Summary: In the 1800s, someone argued the earth was flat because a few lighthouses were supposedly visible further away than they would be on a round Earth)

Joshka chimes in. He says the book talks about Fischer and Torre and that it proves authenticity.

He's asked what it says about Fischer and Torre, since we don't know.

His answer: "... how dare you ask me to reveal content, if you were truly trying to gain truth you would at least have a copy ..."

It's pointed out that the book is not for sale - we can't get a copy.

His answer: "... since neither you nor whomever has put this forum together has a copy, you need to shut up...to investigate an event one must at least HAVE the evidence at hand to make a determination, without it, your opinions fall on deaf ears......wallow in your ignorance, you seem to enjoy ..."

He's asked again how to get a copy so we may avoid ignorance.

His answer: unnamed publishing company in Europe has confiscated remaining copies.

Stories like these are easy to make-up...

Normally, this would be true, but not in this case. Because the book is NOT FOR SALE by any standard means. None of us even have the chance to read it, because it's a bootleg. Any bootleg book is suspicious by definition, and the burden of proof should fall on those who think it's legitimate.

- only two people in the world that believe the book has been written by Bobby Fischer

- and a notorious liar and renowned impostor, who wants to make us believe that it is so.

http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybka...

Some context: Neoliminal questioned whether Ed Trice, whose Gothic Vortex program, could be legally distributed, since its engine was nothing more than a version of Crafty adapted to a 10x8 board, and Ed Trice has not made the source code to Gothic Vortex public.

Trice explained to Neoliminal that he got a special exception from Robert Hyatt allowing him to distribute Gothic Vortex under different terms than its normal license requiring source to be distributed.

However, Trice was not very calm in explaining this. Here is one of his posts:

<Don't worry, I consulted an attorney, who was the author of my original request. Since Hyatt allowed us unlimited, unrestricted use of the code, we can do what we want with it. This includes keeping the source code private and selling the software.>

Here, we see Trice unable to resist making grandiose claims. This is what Trice does when he starts to get upset over something; he isn't able to stay calm and explain he did get this permission.

In the following Usenet posting, someone who has met Trice in real life aptly describes him:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec....

<When I met Ed he came across as a paranoid nerd with an extremely fragile ego>

We see Trice's fragile ego at work above; he feel insecure about his permission for the program and so creates a fantasy in his head (being a person important enough to have an attorney handle something like this) to escape from his feelings of insecurity.

Neoliminal then posted a message which is very typical of open-source fanatics (a small, outspoken minority who can be quote annoying) saying he had the right to look at Gothic Vortex's source code. If Neoliminal were clued about open source licenses, he would have understood, that since the code is Robert Hyatt's, only Robert Hyatt can sue for distributing the code in a form violating its open-source license.

Trice, instead of investigating the situation and letting other posters point out that Neoliminal was wrong (which they started to do), instead starts letting his anger control him:

<So what are you going to do about it??>

Later on in the thread, Neoliminal posts an email he gets from Robert Hyatt where he doesn't even remember giving Trice permission to distribute Crafty under a non-open-source license.

At this point, Trice loses it. He can't control his anger and rage and threatens Neoliminal with a lawsuit.

Neoliminal (John Lewis), a couple of months later, posts a retraction, making it clear he was threatened by Ed Trice.

This is why Ed Trice is evil. He can not control his base instincts. He can not tell fantasy from reality when he gets upset. He can not engage in open discussion without losing his cool, threatening people, and making enemies.

Here it is again:

<From: //////////////////] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:05 PM To: labatechess@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: I did make a mistake.I thought you were trustworthy!!>

<Mar-04-09 Ed Trice: More details of the chronology of my involvement with Ed Labate is shown here:>

<http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_...;

<You can read through it from start to finish. You can see he was pissed off because I did not pay him $5,000 for his book, which I was told by Gardar Sverensson was not authentic.>

<That was a good enough reason for me not to buy it.>

<I told Labate this privately, and he blew a gasket.>

<I didn't put on my website "Look, Labate is selling a book that Fischer claims he never put a date next to his signature.">

<Labate is feeling the heat now. <<<Wait till you see the video>>> I upload next.>

There's also something interesting in the alleged <Joshka> e-mail, namely where he said he did not tell Trice something that Labate confided in him yet somehow Trice knew as seen in this post:

<Ed Trice: My email address is GothicChessInfo@aol.com for anyone who has the guts to come out from behind the shadows and back up what they say on here.>

<Ed Labate never paid me any money for anything.>

<Bobby Fischer died hating Ed Labate for something he had written about Fischer years prior. Labate knows it, I know it. Everything else on his site is a reaction against knowing Bobby Fischer himself closed the door on Ed Labate.>

<Joshka: Ed Trice I of course know it as well, Labate told me. He of course also told me he was very sorry for what he did, but that's besides the point.>

<Joshka> is NOT <ed trice>

I speak with the authority of a trice-accused <trice> sockpuppet.

;-{

Overwhelming evidence shows Bruce <joshka> is his own man.