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|May-15-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: I am interested in certain aspects of history. Mostly war, but unfortunately that is the most prominent aspect of the history of our species.|
|May-19-16|| ||morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> Here's what bugs me: I see your very valid point (some days ago) about the undeclared war betweent he US and Germany, and that certain individuals downplay what you are saying or don't even acknowledge what you are saying. |
I back you up, but the naysayers “hem and haw”, never even conceding that you have a point.
Finally, I produce the reference for the actual orders: Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #214915)
...and Whats their response?
NOTHING!!! just silence
You'd think there would be a 'concession' or a 'thank you' or an “admission” that you (and I) were right all along, but instead, all we get is just silence
Thats the problem here at <CG>: Nobody really knows how to debate, except for <PawnSac>, (he really knows how to debate)
Most of the people here at <CG> are just stubborn, obnoxious narcissists who profess their own viewpoint blah,blah,blah,blah,blah,blah yakkityyakyakkityyak yakkityyak…, but never even read or acknowledge other's viewpoints, which is the very basis of debating in the first place.
Whats the point in even responding? All this pointless typing is giving me tendinitis and no more
|May-20-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: <<<<<morfishine: <Adbel Irada> While you make so many good points, why don't you ever admit when you are wrong, or at the very least admit you are ignorant or off-base?>>>>|
The World Wonders >
That was funny.
Anyway, when <Colonel Mortimer> asked for orders, it implied that he thought they didn't exist and also implied that their existence would actually win the argument for you.
Then after you did produce them, he shut up <about the topic> and started claiming "Danth's Law". It is fairly obvious he knew he lost, which is why he was trying to use some stupid "Law" to claim you lost.
You'll never get a concession from him - he is too arrogant to admit he was wrong. I've seen it before.
<Abdel Irada>, ironically, made the exact same error about orders, claiming the Greer was acting in ad hoc self defense.
Then he took my statement that he wasn't qualified to discuss WWII and said "back atcha", an old <OCF> tactic which is an adaptation of elementary school word wars.
I just find the whole thing to be too funny!
|May-20-16|| ||morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> I tossed in "The World Wonders" as a side joke. Remember the Nimitz - Halsey incident during the Battle of Leyte Gulf? Now that was funny, almost hilarious when Nimitz sent a coded message to Halsey asking "Where is, repeat, where is Task Force Thirty Four? The world wonders". The term 'The World Wonders' was crypto-padding designed to confuse Japanese code-breakers. This should've been omitted when decoded and presented to Halsey. Instead it was left on the message and Halsey went ballistic after seeing the message. Thats just too funny|
|May-21-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: Yeah, I read all about that incident in Morrison's history of the US Navy in WWII, which I no longer own unfortunately. My copy was a gift and was in poor condition, so I donated it to a library some time ago.|
Samuel Elliot Morrison actually served in the US Navy and was in some of the battles he wrote of. I think he was present on the bridge of one of the carriers that fought in the Battle of Midway.
|May-22-16|| ||morfishine: Kenneth Rogoff (kibitz #214915)|
|May-23-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: <morfishine: ...
A pity about <Keypusher>; I've had him on ignore for awhile>
Yeah, me too, but our resident ambulatory jihadist copied and pasted one of his posts and I accidentally saw it.
|May-23-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: One more thing, though. <kepusher> made some snide remark about me "rambling on about the Kennedy assasination," which I never did.|
Maybe he was thinking of you or <OCF> instead. What I wrote on the topic was rather terse and in any event I only posted here, IIRC, and not on the Rogoff page.
|May-23-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: <PawnSac: ...
Thus, from a firearms/ballistics point of view, the event seems to be a multiple shooter (probably 3 or more) with MULTIPLE CALIBERS.>
Just now saw <PawnSac>'s post and really enjoyed reading his perspective.
<At each end of the front bumper were large red lights that alternated on/off in perfect synchronization: when one was off, the other was on.>
I had not heard of this before. Thanks, <morfishine>. It certainly looks like there was a coverup of evidence.
|May-23-16|| ||Boomie: <morfishine: However, after the limo turned onto Elm, the lights went skewy: sometimes both off at the same time, sometimes both on at the same time. The editors of the film had removed critical frames (overlooking that this was throwing off the synchronization of the lights).>|
My dyslexia might be showing, but it seems to me the only way to get both lights on or off in a single frame is to superimpose one frame over another. I can't see anyway to achieve that by just removing frames.
Here I am assuming that the analysis is performed frame by frame. Seeing the running film may give hints that something is awry, but the proof would require a frame by frame analysis.
The timing of the lights should tip off missing frames, so this analysis could be important. The lights should change after a certain number of frames.
|May-24-16|| ||morfishine: <thegoodanarchist> & <Boomie> My interest in the JFK assassination was pretty much waning around 2000 when I noticed 'Assassination Science' by James Fetzer (1998). I picked it up and enjoyed the scientific approach to what is and what isn't possible or real. Its in this volume where the "blinker discrepancy" is discussed. Its very well documented and calculated that when the left light is on for so long, the right light is off, and vice versa. Its just blink, counter-blink, and so on; but in the Z-film, there are frames where both lights are on or off at the same time, and for extended times, which shouldn't happen; and the "ons and offs" of the lights are uncoordinated or 'out of sync' at times.|
Great follow up books also by Fetzer are 'Murder in Dealey Plaza' (2000) & 'The Great Zapruder Film Hoax' (2003). Both are scientific in their nature focusing on physics and photographic analysis.
I try to be objective and not weighted one way or the other. For example, I'm reading two books now, one about the Dallas in the 1963 titled 'Dallas 1963' by Bill Minutaglio and Steven L. Davis. This is an excellent book that gives a vivid picture of Dallas from January 1960 til November 1963. Each chapter is one month in time as it marches to the catastrophe. But there's little reference to the assassination; its just a great and comprehensive accounting of all the characters and personalities and politics going on at the time in Dallas at all levels. Very fascinating.
The other book is the old but popular 'Conversations with Kennedy' by journalist Benjamin C. Bradlee. This is a must read if one wants to get the feel of Kennedy and the real person.
I like this speech by Kennedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeY...
Thats just 5 minutes of the total 19 minute speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdM...
|May-28-16|| ||morfishine: <OhioChessfan> What about the mysterious deaths related to the JFK assassination? Now, I admit, a lot of the deaths noted over the years are "stretches" submitted by quacks trying to write a good book. I get that. But, there are at a minimum 26 unexplained deaths of people who were either in Dealey Plaza when JFK died, or who were connected to people directly associated with either Oswald or Ruby. |
The key point about these 26 deaths is that they occurred within 3 years of the assassination and the people dying were in a "healthy age group", that is between 20-50 years old. In other words, these people shouldn't have died suddenly, yet they did, and they all have connections to the JFK assassination.
The only exception with regards to age is Earlene Roberts, the Landlord of Oswald, who passed away in 1966
|May-28-16|| ||Party Animal: I have read some interesting theories as to who carried out The Kennedy Assassination. George Bush Sr. was a CIA agent at that time and was involved along with Frank Sturgess & E. Howard Hunt. All were involved in the Bay of Pigs fiasco & it has been said they wanted retribution on John Kennedy for that alone. |
Also John Kennedy wanted to splinter The CIA & rid the U.S. of secret societies like The Skull & Bones organization.
Also John Kennedy wanted to get rid of centralized banks & have the government take 'true' control of printing money. A CIA agent I heard from has said the only 2 Presidents that wanted to do just that were Abraham Lincoln & John F. Kennedy, & he went on to say both were assassinated.
Also The Chicago outfit was reportedly involved as Jack Ruby who gunned down Lee Harvey Oswald, it has been said got the hit order from Sam Giancana who ran the Chicago mob at that time.
It also has been said that vice President LBJ was involved in the assassination of Kennedy.
|May-28-16|| ||Party Animal: Here's an article about George W Bush's involvement.|
|May-28-16|| ||Party Animal: Here's a short clip where Jack Ruby talks to the press & while in the courthose hallway elaborates LBJ was indeed involved.|
|May-28-16|| ||perfidious: <morf: What about the mysterious deaths related to the JFK assassination? Now, I admit, a lot of the deaths noted over the years are "stretches" submitted by quacks trying to write a good book. I get that....>|
All taken, an inexplicable, strange business.
<....But, there are at a minimum 26 unexplained deaths of people who were either in Dealey Plaza when JFK died, or who were connected to people directly associated with either Oswald or Ruby.>
Whatever one makes of what may be regarded as, in some instances tenuous links, that is a whale of a lot of people dying in statistically implausible fashion, to put it mildly.
|May-29-16|| ||morfishine: <perfidious> Writers have tried to connect hundreds of strange deaths to the assassination, which I think is a bit much; but there are particular deaths that occurred soon after the assassination that have never been properly explained. For example, Hank Killam. Hank's wife Wanda worked for Ruby as an exotic dancer. Hank supposedly knew of an Oswald-Ruby connection. After the assassination, Hank found himself harassed and threatened and so moved from town to town then from state to state in an effort to avoid the continual questioning of "Federal agents." According to Hank's wife... Hank was "hounded from job to job" by these Federal agents. Before his death in Florida, Hank told his brother, Earl Killam: "I am a dead man, but I have run as far as I am going to run." |
On March 17, 1964, a few short months after the assassination, Killam was found bleeding to death on the sidewalk outside the Thiesen Building in downtown Pensacola. According to official reports, police discovered him outside the window display of a department store, his throat severed and shattered glass surrounding his body. Killam died before he reached the hospital and police were quick to rule his death a suicide, (apparently having thrown himself through the window from the inside landing on the pavement LOL).
What really happened is either (1) two men rammed Hank head first through the window, then raised his head up and slammed his neck down on the jagged broken glass on the bottom edge, almost decapitating him, then flung the body through the window onto the pavement, or (2) two men, described as the attackers, cut Hank's throat first, (since blood was found inside the store), then flung him Hank the window. The police ruled this a suicide, concluding Hank threw himself through a ground floor window, cutting his throat in the process. Really pathetic besides being unbelievable
|May-29-16|| ||morfishine: <Party Animal> Thanks for dropping by. While I've run into all those theories over time, the one I've read the least about is Bush Sr. Recently, I found a photograph showing both Bush and a certain Malcolm Wallace. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxJ...|
Remember Wallace? He was closely connected to LBJ. Wallace was having an affair with LBJ's sister, Josefa, who was also seeing a golf pro John Kinser. Apparently, Josefa had told John of some of LBJ's corrupt political moves, so John, who was in financial difficulty, used this information and attempted to blackmail LBJ. Well, LBJ would have none of this, so he sent Wallce out to Kinser's golf course where he murdered Kisner inside the pro shop. At the 1952 trial, 11 of 12 jurors wanted the death penalty but the judge gave a sentence of 5-years, which was suspended, as a result of some slick political grease applied by you-know-who. I'm not making this up.
In any case, a fingerprint matched to Wallace has been shown to be the one unidentified fingerprint found in the “sniper's nest” on Nov 22, 1963. An Expert fingerprint analyst certifies the print: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdF...
Wallace has also been linked to the murder of Henry Marshall: http://spartacus-educational.com/JF...
Of course, the authorities deny, debunk, feign ignorance, call everybody a liar and otherwise, do not agree with any of this. Its all just a bunch of unexplained coincidences
|May-29-16|| ||Party Animal: Morphy, I once seen a JFK Assasination expert lecturer & 1 of the first things he said was, "Everyone asks who killed Kennedy, & I say who didn't"! lol|
|May-29-16|| ||Party Animal: The Pentagon hated him, The Russians & Cubans hated him & LBJ hated him, because John talked exclusively with his brother Bobby about the hot button issues. They excluded Johnson from the office! Also people forget that when John F Kennedy ran for the Presidential Nomination he was bitter rivals with Lyndon Johnson before they became running mates.|
Kennedy planned on ending Vietnam & there were a lot of businessmen & politicians who had money in the markets for the war machine including LBJ.
The mafia hated Kennedy because his brother Bobby reneged on a Castro hit agreed to with the mob. Chicago newsman & journalist Bill Curtis on an investigative journalist program had an undercover FBI agent taped with a Mafia kingpin hiding out in the swamps of Louisiana & the Mob boss said "as far as I am concerned, after calling off the Castro hit the whole Kennedy family should be hit".
P.S. I believe many were involved but in my estimation it was The CIA, The Mafia & LBJ that were the major players in JFK's assassination.
|May-30-16|| ||morfishine: <Party Animal: Morphy, I once seen a JFK Assasination expert lecturer & 1 of the first things he said was, "Everyone asks who killed Kennedy, & I say who didn't"! lol> I hear you, I remember pondering the assassination while in the middle of some book and thinking "They all did it"|
Oh, you forgot to mention the Oil men and their precious 27% oil depletion allowance that JFK threatened to pull
|May-30-16|| ||perfidious: <morf> Have you ever read Caro's four-volume biography on LBJ? Whatever one makes of various theories surrounding Dallas, he could be one ruthless SOB in private and political life.|
|May-30-16|| ||morfishine: <perfidious> No, I have not read Caro's bio on LBJ. |
Regarding LBJ, I've read 'The Texas Connection' by Craig Zirbel, 'Betrayal in Dallas' by Mark North & 'Blood, Money, and Power' by Barr McClellan. All point the finger at LBJ
These are powerful books, but in a way, my favorite is 'A Texan Looks at Lyndon, A Study in Illegitimate Power' by J. Evetts Haley. Haley was a well respected Texan and his book was copyright 1964, so the timing is perfect for the content, and it took some guts for Haley to publish this book at that time.
I love these old books produced by obscure publishing companies. This was published by Palo Dura Press and this old style came with a simple order form in the back if you wanted to order additional copies for a nominal charge.
One did not want to be the target of the LBJ "treatment" but in this case, Haley wasn't intimidated or worried about the repurcussions
|May-30-16|| ||morfishine: Unexplained Deaths: Roger Craig
Here's an interview with former Dallas Detective Roger Craig approximately 1-year before he was murdered/silenced. At the end, he mentions three Dallas deputies who died strangely prior to 1974: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPF...
|May-30-16|| ||Party Animal: Here's The CIA orchestrator of JFK's assassination, speaking at Gerald Ford's funeral.|
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