Koblents vs L Steiner, 1937

Alan will be 100% correct with the D.O.B. details etc. but every time he was mentioned regarding chess it was Frazer.

Not a Wall Chart Miss Zcarlett, it is a hand painted and framed document covering 100 years of history.

The trophy presented to him uses a 'Z' (not 's') they would have got that right.

And his bio printed here James Cunningham Fraser where the 1876 Herald refer to him all the way though as 'Frazer.'

Also When he wrote about a case of the 'Anencephalous Fœtus' in the April 26th 1871 for the Edinburgh Obstetrical Society he called himself James C Frazer.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...

After posting the above Ch4 got in touch and they want to film a game of chess between two celebs at the Royal College of Physicians in Queen Street, Edinburgh. I have to supply the board, pieces, clock.

Our Frazer was a member there in 1874...

https://www.chessscotland.com/docum...

Very impressive sideburns! (note spelling on picture - Frazer)

Whilst there I'll see if I get a peak at their records and see what name he used.

The above post and phone call coincidence is obviously the spirit of James Frazer influencing things and events.

'..get my name corrected on my chessgames com page'

I'm trying too Doctor Frazer, the stumbling block appears to be this lot admitting they may be wrong and I fear they are going to change all the Z's in your Herald bio to S's.

https://www.chessscotland.com/docum...

Has <Dundee (1867)> with not just one, but two Frasers.

Because it is 'Z'. I chase down wrong moves in the database and submit corrections. This is the same thing.

I'm doing my sworn duty as a fully subbed up member. I gave a solemn promise to improve the database for future generations.

(I took the oath with one hand resting on a chessboard, the other clutching an MCO.)

It appears he wanted to be known as Frazer, he gave the Edinburgh club the Frazer Medal. (it is engraved 'Frazer')
The least we can do is accommodate him.

Hi Miss Sc.

Oh! The letter <z>.

Sorry can't do without it.

<The Wizard of Oss>. Or if we don't want to make up a new word, <The Wizard of Ass> doesn't really sound much better.

<The Wissard of Oss> I supoze.

Let's z what the contemporaneous literature has to say in the matter...

https://books.google.com/books?id=u...

Loewenthal and Medley's <The Transactions of the British Chess Association for the Years 1868 and 1869> is about as close to a tournament book for <Dundee (1867)> as we have. It lists him as:

<Dr. Fraser>

All that's how this player entered Z-base via <Dundee (1867)>, despite my former fondness for all things (I now make the obvious exception or two).

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Harding's Blackburne book (p55) also uses J.C. Fraser, citing <Transactions> and <Gillam>:

<Black was described as Dr. Fraser with an "s" in the <Transactions>, although the spelling with "Fraser" is sometimes seen later in his life>

I'd like to know how he's listed in the <Dundee Advertiser 1867-09-05>.

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[Event "casual (?)"]
[Site "Glasgow SCO"]
[Date "1874.??.??"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Fraser, James Cunningham"]
[Black "Spens, Walter Cook (Sheriff)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C31"]
[EventDate "1874.??.??"]
[Source "The Chess Journal v7 N53 (Jul 1874) G-356 p494 // Glasgow Weekly Herald (recent)"]
[Source_url "https://books.google.com/books?id=w..."]
[Notes "Source gives 'Dr. Frazer' as White"]

1.e4 e5 2.f4 d5 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.Nc3 Qe6 5.Nf3 exf4+ 6.Kf2 Nf6 7.h3 Bd6 8.Bb5+ Kd8 9.Re1 Qf5 10.d4 Qg6 11.Ne5 Qg3+ 12.Kg1 Rf8 13.Qe2 c6 14. Bc4 Bxh3 15.Qf2 Be6 16.Bxe6 fxe6 17.Bxf4 Qxf2+ 18.Kxf2 Nh5 19.g3 g5 20.Rh1 Nxg3 21.Rxh7 gxf4 22.Rd7+ Nxd7 0-1

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The ending is a bit sad, but there's no other game between these two opponents.

<Dr Fraser>. Why this date in particular?>

Because it's the one cited by Harding in the 1867 game between the two:

Well, I normally would agree with the importance of this, within reason of course.

A case in point is <Vasyl Ivanchuk>... (formerly given as <Vassily Ivanchuk>). An active player, whose desired name change is easily accommodated without really any risk of confusion.

But Fraser apparently altered his name many years after what I would claim was his most important period as concerns chess history - <Dundee (1867)>.

We have many similar parallel cases, e.g. when a women player adopts her husband's name, or even when a player changes both their name and sex.

My view is very pragmatic - I like to use the name in common use at the time of the game. This has the added benefit that once you assemble the PGN for, say, a tournament then you can put it to bed and be done with it once and for all (modulo true corrections).

A good database abstracts the player's name into a numerical id anyways. The PGN really should always contain that pid's (and not just the zipfile PGN's).

I tried to get Daniel to use the pids as much as possible (e.g. you can search on a CG pid, thanks to me).

I like the idea of having a pid map into a list of names, if needed, on a chronological basis. This allows for proper tracking.

The canonical version of the PGN would use this name, but <CG> can be more versatile (once it's "as good") - and allow users the option of using the player's current name in their own version of the PGN.

We can talk about cases like Reshevsky perhaps in the second iteration.

Shouldn't it really be called the <Donalson medal>?

Source "Hazeltine Scrapbook, v91, pdf-p64 (from Glasgow Weekly Herald, 1874.05.23)"