| Nov-12-04 | | Knight13: Never knew Bird played this well against Lasker. And I am little surprised that Bird played the English Opening this well. Good Game. |
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Oct-27-05
 | | offramp: Lasker must have miscalculated somewhere. The position seems about level at move 47 or so, but black is lost at move 57. |
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| Apr-26-09 | | YoungEd: <Knight13>: For me, it's interesting to see how White uses 1. c4 as a means to get to a Bird's Opening-type structure by move 6. I think that part of the reason he does well in this game is that he finds a way to make his Queen's knight useful--that's usually the hardest part of the Bird. |
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| Apr-28-14 | | dernier thylacine: Yes, OFFRAMP, Lasker indeed miscalutated, at the 54th move: he should have going on protecting his a6 pawn, by 54...Nc1 for example. Letting Bird take it and following the h6 pawn too was suicidal because the black c pawn must lose the race for queening against the white h5. |
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| Apr-28-14 | | dernier thylacine: To addition: 64.Nf5+ would have been a nice little combo to win the black rook at d2 by force with the queen!
But of course the move of Bird wins easily too, even it's a little less crushing and flashy... |
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Apr-28-14
| | offramp: Lasker was only ~22 at the time of this game. In those days that was young for a chess player! |
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| Apr-28-14 | | RookFile: Really? Morphy was declared champ in England when he was 21. |
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Apr-28-14
 | | keypusher: <RookFile: Really?> Yes, really. Perhaps an example will help you wrap your head around this astonishing concept. Eddie Mathews was considered young when he hit 47 homers at age 21 in 1953 even though Mel Ott had hit 42 at age 20 just 24 years before. If you still don't get it, try making a list of all the top-five masters aged 22 or less between 1858 and 1890. |
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| Apr-28-14 | | RookFile: Admittedly, this conversation could use further clarification as to what we're talking about. My only point is that there were numerous players playing strong and competitive chess at a relatively young age. Paul Morphy is the outstanding example, but others would include Ignatiz Kolisch, Jacques Mieses, Henry Bird, Joseph Blackburne, Amos Burn, Curt von Bardeleben, Gyorgy Szabo, Louis van Vliet, Albert Heyde, Albert Hodges, and Siegbert Tarrasch. The original comment related to chess <players>, and the above list does indeed include competitive chess players. You're right in the sense in that we usually see players from this time period hitting their prime years at perhaps age 30 or later. I think that throughout chess history, that is usually the case, but Magnus Carlsen, Tal, Kasparov, and others, are exceptions. |
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| Apr-02-23 | | bcokugras: For black, is 59. c2 better than 59. Kd7? |
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Apr-02-23
 | | Breunor: Computer says losing moves are:
48 ..Ne7
Kf7 scores even, after text Ra1 score about -1
49 Nd5
Nc6 scores -0.73, after text 50 Nxd4, score is -1.4 for black 51 Nd3
Rd6 scores -0.74, after text 52 Kg3 score is -1.6 for black As stated above, the most fatal error was:
54 Rb2
Nc1 scores 0.66, after text 55 Rxa6 score is -2.92 for black, at that point there is no recovery. |
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