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| Aug-19-14 | | BOSTER: <What would be wrong>
if we had the Rule : NO three time Repetition.
Sally Simpson-patzer2-and other. |
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| Aug-19-14 | | Olavi: <best is 37. Qd2! The computers indicate Black with strong play eventually wins, but it's difficult to execute even with the best line 37...Rxe2! 38. Qxe2 b5!>
Botvinnik gives 37...Rd8 38.Qe3 Qf5 39.Kg1 b5. And it is very natural to keep the rooks. |
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| Aug-19-14 | | Olavi: Botvinnik also points out Guimard vs Kotov, 1946 |
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Aug-20-14
 | | Sally Simpson: HI beenthere240:
"chrisowen is starting to become understandable..."
I'm finding that too, however he could have used a diagram after: "prise to black chubb free each in away ever tickle ground." 
click for larger view |
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| Aug-22-14 | | smitten: Was White's decisive mistake 34.♔h1? With this move he pins himself, which led to a defeat. How about simple 34.g3, and if 34..h4 White can maybe play 35.♗f2 to guard the pawn? |
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| May-26-17 | | Saniyat24: amazing tussle...and a great move 37...Qg2+ by Botvinnik...Black's pseudo-threat 33...Ra3 brought about Kotov's mistaken move 34.Kh1? |
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| May-26-17 | | paavoh: @beenthere240 & Sally Simpson: <chrisowen is starting to become understandable...> He has started to include move numbers! They are like beacons in the stormy seas. |
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Mar-09-20
 | | Knighthawkmiller: 37. Qd2 avoids the immediate loss of the exchange. |
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Dec-26-22
| | Knighthawkmiller: 36...Qd3 threatens the B an h pawn. |
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Dec-02-24
 | | Korora: Easy. 37...♕xg2+ forces 38.♕xg2, pinning the ♕ to the ♗, so it's bye-bye birdie. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Mondays: easy ♕ sac: 37...Qxg2+ 38. Qxg2 Rxe2... |
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Dec-02-24
 | | takebackok: Half a think Monday, 37...Qxg2+ and a forced material win. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | mel gibson: Easy Monday.
White should have played better to not be in that situation. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | saturn2: 37....Qg2 38.Qxg2 Rxe2 wins an exchange after
39.Qxc6 bxc6 |
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Dec-02-24
 | | perfidious: <mel gibson: Easy Monday.
White should have played better to not be in that situation.> One could say thus of a great many games, but few would have everything on the line as this did. Who among us here would have done better than Kotov had they been in this spot? |
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| Dec-02-24 | | mel gibson: <Who among us here would have done better than Kotov had they been in this spot> Me - never permit a Bishop to bear down on your King.
You have to: swap the Bishop off,
move the King or obstruct the Bishop with a pawn or piece.
A pin from a Bishop is deadly. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | TheaN: <37....Qxg2+> wins Black the exchange due to the somewhat rare pin magnet and Bc6 defended: <38.Qxg2 Rxe2 39.Qxc6 bxc6 -+> and the ending is trivial with an exchange and two pawns of which one is passed. <mel gibson: <Who among us here would have done better than Kotov had they been in this spot> Me (...)>
Bold statement... I don't know what your actual strength or OTB experience is, but I sincerely doubt you'd fair better against Botvinnik with all due respect. Few aspects here: pressure on Kotov was immense considering it was for the championship with White against Botvinnik, there was probably time trouble because we're on moves ~30-37 when the combination occurred and lastly Black is significantly better through most of the played moves regardless... even 37.Qd2 Rxe2 38.Qxe2 Qf5 39.Kg1 b5 ∓ is a very unpleasant endgame to defend. |
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Dec-02-24
 | | chrisowen: Laments her bow v it is Qxg2+ AEG og doh axiom juggle dud o Qxg2+ off :) |
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Dec-02-24
| | perfidious: <mel>, only with <fishie> at your side; your 'this was easy; hahahahaha' and 'I got this in five seconds! Hahahahaha!' would have a tough time at the board. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | eblunt: < TheaN:> to be fair 37 Qf2 is a blunder, could have fought on a bit better, though the position is bleak |
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| Dec-02-24 | | TheaN: <eblunt: < TheaN:> to be fair 37 Qf2 is a blunder, could have fought on a bit better, though the position is bleak> I don't say anything else, I just find it bit disrespectful to Kotov to state 'White should have done better' or people here claiming they would not have made the same mistake in this situation. It was a tense game with a lot on the line and he messed up. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | mel gibson: < perfidious: <mel>, only with <fishie> at your side; your 'this was easy; hahahahaha' and 'I got this in five seconds! Hahahahaha!' would have a tough time at the board.> That Black Bishop had been aiming at g2 since move 22.
White had time to do something about it -
at least 10 moves. |
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| Dec-02-24 | | Lloyd Gross: mel gibson: <That Black Bishop had been aiming at g2 since move 22. White had time to do something about it -
at least 10 moves.>
That’s what I thought. But this game is from 1939, so those players didn’t learn that lesson yet. |
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| Dec-03-24 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Some friends commented about 37. Qf2 ?? being an error, but let's see that being near to the 40th move, Kotov could had being in a time trouble. The alternative 37. Qf1?? Qd3! will be enough, while 37. Qd1 Qg3 which threats 38... Qxh3+ 39. Kg1 Qg4. So, W best reply seems to be: 37.Qd2, however, Rd8 followed by Qf5 seems also to give B best chances to win. |
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Dec-03-24
| | perfidious: The 40 moves in 2.5 hours was not yet standardised as the time check, but maybe it played a role; the tournament page offers no information on that. It is interesting tho that Kotov won a game using the same motif, seven years on. |
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