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|May-01-21|| ||perfidious: <chancho>, the way that sentence is quoted sounds analogous to one of Le Not So Grand Orange's free-associative rants, a propos de rien.|
|May-02-21|| ||perfidious: Once more, in case the <master of mendacity> goes into 'This will not do' land:|
<<tower of babble....Piff piff, puff puff....>
Displaying his trademark serious, substantive and insightful commentary--must have learnt that on the short bus while getting lessons in his other calling card, that of depravity.
<<perfy boy> showed zero outrage over the following:
<al wazir: Pedophilia doesn't always harm the child.>>
First you arrogate the right, worthless douchebag that you personify, to disqualify my opinion on that--then say it never happened.
You are a mendacious ****ing <point of sale> and the greatest liar CG has ever seen.>
|May-04-21|| ||chancho: The greatest president of our lifetimes.
First 100 days of Donald Trump:
Apr 2017 Approval rate 41%
Romney: Aren't you embarrassed??
|May-04-21|| ||perfidious: The GOAT!!!
Spare me. (laughs)
|May-04-21|| ||chancho: <Liz Cheney: We have to be the party of ideas and substance and policy. We need to defeat the threat internationally and from the left here at home.
We can’t rebuild the party or the conservative movement on a foundation of lies. We can’t embrace the notion the election is stolen.|
It’s a poison in the bloodstream of our democracy.
The way we win back suburban voters and keep all who voted for us in 2020 is with ideas and policy.
We can’t be a cult of personality…
We can’t whitewash what happened on January 6th or perpetuate Trump’s big lie.
It is a threat to democracy. What he did on January 6 is a line that cannot be crossed.>
When you look at Cheney and Trump, you know one is a conservative, the other a stone-cold grifting charlatan.
At least she is being truthful and defending the constitution.
Kudos for that...
|May-04-21|| ||perfidious: While her views overall run counter to mine, I have great respect for Cheney's stance and wish her success.|
On the matter above, we are in complete agreement.
|May-06-21|| ||chancho: There once was this thing called Reaganomics...|
Thanks to the Orange Vomitus, today's "substantive" discussions of conservatives consist of: victimhood, imagined conspiracies of stolen elections, Mister Potato Head, being woke, and cancel culture.
The trainwreck party formerly called the GOP.
Trump's tiny hands are all over this mess.
|May-06-21|| ||perfidious: Gym Jordan at it again on Faux News Wednesday night:|
<GOP Rep. Jim Jordan (Ohio) on Wednesday said that Republican lawmakers have the votes to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) from GOP House leadership.
Jordan, in an appearance on Fox News, said that Cheney, the House Republican Conference chairwoman, "definitely needs to go," citing her longtime criticism of former President Trump.
"You can't have a Republican conference chair reciting Democrat talking points," Jordan told Fox News. "You can't have a Republican conference chair taking a position that 90 percent of the party disagrees with, and you can't have a Republican party chair consistently speaking out against the individual who 74 million Americans voted for."
Jordan added that he was in favor of ousting Cheney "three months ago," claiming that "you can't be the conference chair when you consistently speak out against the leader of our party and you consistently speak out against the positions that the vast, vast, vast majority of our party and our country, I think, holds."
House Republicans are charging ahead in their ouster of Cheney as head of the party conference. The move has been endorsed by top Republicans, including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) and Minority Whip Steve Scalise (La.), who say Cheney cannot remain in her top role if she will not embrace Trump's message or limit her vocal criticism.
Jordan on Wednesday said he believes "for sure the votes are there" to remove Cheney, predicting that the move will happen next week.
The Ohio lawmaker also targeted Cheney for attacking Trump on his decision to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, his strategy in Afghanistan and more.
Cheney, who was one of 10 GOP members of the House who voted to impeach Trump earlier this year, on Wednesday called on Republicans to move away from what she called a "Trump cult of personality" and vowed to continue speaking out.
"History is watching. Our children are watching," she wrote in an op-ed in the Washington Post. "We must be brave enough to defend the basic principles that underpin and protect our freedom and our democratic process. I am committed to doing that, no matter what the short-term political consequences might be.">
|May-06-21|| ||chancho: <After weeks of coronavirus patients flooding emergency rooms in Michigan, the worst Covid-19 hot spot in the nation, hospitalizations are finally falling.|
On some recent days, entire states, including Wisconsin and West Virginia, have reported zero new coronavirus deaths — a brief but promising respite from the onslaught of the past year.
And in New York and Chicago, officials encouraged by the recent progress have confidently vowed to <<<fully reopen in the coming weeks,>>> conjuring images of a vibrant summer of concerts, sporting events, and packed restaurants revving cities back to life.
Americans have entered a new, hopeful phase of the pandemic. Buoyed by a sense that the coronavirus is waning, in part because of vaccinations, more people are shrugging off masks, venturing into restaurants, and returning to their pre-pandemic routines.
Mayors, governors, and other local officials — once the bearers of grim news about the virus’s toll and strict rules for businesses — have joined in the newfound optimism, rapidly loosening restrictions.>
Very good news indeed, and yet, you have ignoramuses out there complaining for months on end about wearing a face mask (violates my constitutional rights!) to protect themselves and others from covid-19.
We're in the 21st century and stupidity is still the guiding star of many a tool.
|May-06-21|| ||perfidious: <chancho>, had just read that piece; am hopeful, though hardly optimistic, of seeing matters improve.|
|May-08-21|| ||perfidious: Compliments of <Refused>, Over There:|
<<The AZ State Senators who demanded the count didn't actually take any practical steps to make it happen. When they finally got around to reserving the Madhouse on McDowell (Veterans Memorial Coliseum, owned by the state), they didn't reserve it for a period long enough to actually do a compete recount. The Phoenix School District graduation ceremonies have put a 20-day hard stop date on the process, and there is literally no way for the "audit" process to finish within that 20-day graduation window.
The state owns the Madhouse, so while they don't have to pay any rent, they do have to fully operate the place to the tune of $1,000 a day to start, but not actually ever finish, the process.
The charlatans that the Senate hired, "Cybers Ninjas", are a group of Trump loyalists with no particular, evident expertise in ballot audits. They have excellent skills in latching onto the government teat and extracting taxpayer dollars, however. Also, they are subject matter experts in making assertions about how the process will work, who will participate, etc. and then immediately violating the assertions and making exceptions to the stated controls.
The Senate took custody of the ballots, but then didn't have the knowledge or ability to maintain ballot security or integrity once they had custody. Then the Cyber Ninjas took custody, and news reports indicate that they lost control of the container sequence, so they may not actually know what ballots are in what boxes at this point.
The Senate insulted and offended Maricopa County Elections officials by their wild statements to the press about, basically saying that the MC elections officials were corrupt, incompetent, or both. Thus county elections officials (many of whom are, duh, Republicans - this is Arizona) told the Senate Republicans to piss up a rope. Elections officials are complying with the letter of the subpoena, but otherwise providing zero assistance to the Senate Republicans. That is why the Senate has to use the Madhouse rather than the Maricopa County Elections facilities. Also, the long-time County Republicans who have served the public in this roles have basically told the current Trumpkin Senate Republicans to eat @#$% and die, and donations to the State Republican organization, controlled by these Senate Republicans, have dried up completely....>
|May-08-21|| ||perfidious: Part deux:
<....The Senate hired Cyber Ninjas without a contractual payment amount. Most estimates are that the state will end up paying Cyber Ninjas $3 million for the work this month. Maybe Cyber Ninjas will get more time on the government teat later, too, after the graduation exercises!
Cyber Ninjas had trouble staffing their project, so news reporters volunteered to staff the audit, as Cyber Ninjas had prevented news institutions from entry. It didn't take long for Cyber Ninjas to start ejecting reporters working as staff, because the reporters reported on how disorganized and confused the process was.
Cyber Ninjas filed an audit process document with the courts, detailing how they would perform their ballot audits. Unfortunately they don't seem to have read any of the Arizona state regulations for performing a ballot audit, so their process isn't actually permitted. Cyber Ninjas originally asked for the Maricopa County Election officials help, and Elections officials, in a spirit of Republican solidarity, told them to go read the law and also jump off a cliff. In addition, Elections officials told Cyber Ninjas that any future communications would have to go through the Maricopa County Attorney, who is a Republican, and who seems to have made it her personal goal to crap on Cyber Ninjas. Furthermore, the cameras on the floor reveal that they are not following the Arizona regulations OR their own documented process. Also, the proposed plan can't be completed prior to graduation, even by Cyber Ninjas own optimistic procedures filed with the court.
Cyber Ninjas set up live camera feeds of the Madhouse count, but failed to take any steps to maintain voter privacy. So ballot information was on display on some camera feeds, and confusion, indolence, and general lack of effort was on display in other feeds. So basically an extension of the Trump administration writ small.
Cyber Ninjas then had on their staff a guy who was part of the January 6 insurrection. Nice. Cyber Ninjas' procedures have no plans for bipartisan observers, which might have made it possible for them to get enough audit staff without resorting to using news reporters. So basically they made their own sharp stick and jumped immediately onto it.
One part of the Cyber Ninjas plan was to verify voters by going out and knocking on doors to ensure that the voter on the ballot was in fact registered to vote, lived in Maricopa County, and was an American citizen. Reports state that Cyber Ninja staff assigned to this task didn't show up on on several days, which shouldn't be a surprise, as I can't think of a better way of learning whether or not a homeowner is armed and insulted than by knocking on his or her door and asking those specific questions. A Phoenix fireman I know, a Trump guy, mentioned that there was already one such confrontation. I just laughed when I heard this.
The plan to go out and canvas voters also violates the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, which prevents voter intimidation, and it also calls into question the existing process Maricopa County has to update and refresh voter rolls, linked to such activities as Motor Voter, Obituary Tracking, etc. Unsurprisingly, insulted attorneys for the state and county are gearing up to sue over this, and various political organizations, ranging from La Raza to the Libertarian Party, also expressed plans to sue Cyber Ninjas on this one. Only a company from Florida (Dumbest State in the Union, TM) could be so ignorant of Arizona history to think that this was a good idea. Maybe they will also announce plans to sink some unlicensed ground water wells to really stir up a stink.
Local Republican leaders who pre-date Trump have come out of the woodwork to dump upon the Senate Republicans and Cyber Ninjas from a great height. Past County Recorders have been unanimous in calling the Cyber Ninjas plan "unworkable" and "pointless" and "ridiculous". Even past Republican leaders who offered to help out have recoiled after reading the Cyber Ninjas' plan and meeting with them. Former Secretary of State Ken Bennett jumped out to act as liaison between Senate and Cyber Ninjas, but now he is quoted as saying things like, "I’m going to be giving my input as to whether they’ve thought of all the things they need to think of".>
|May-08-21|| ||perfidious: RINOs at it in Arizona:
<Maricopa County Sheriff Paul Penzone blasts Arizona Senate's election audit demand as a risk to law enforcement
Maricopa County Sheriff Paul Penzone called the Arizona Senate's demands for its audit of Maricopa County's presidential election "mind-numbingly reckless and irresponsible."
Penzone said the law enforcement agency would be at risk if the county turned over the state Senate's intensified demand for certain routers, or digital copies of the routers. The Senate also is demanding certain administrative passwords to voting machines that county officials say they do not have.
Providing the routers could compromise confidential, sensitive and highly classified law enforcement data and equipment, he said in a statement on Friday.
"The Senate Republican Caucus’ audit of the Maricopa County votes from last November’s election has no stopping point. Now, its most recent demands jeopardize the entire mission of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office," Penzone's statement said.
The county has provided all 2.1 million voter general election ballots, voter information and election equipment in response to state Senate subpoenas. The Senate gave the election materials to private contractors, which allowed the audit and recount to get underway at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix on April 23.
But the county did not deliver certain routers that the state Senate has demanded.
County Attorney Allister Adel explained in a letter to state Senate liaison Ken Bennett earlier this week that turning over the routers or “virtual images” of routers, poses a significant security risk to Sheriff’s Office law enforcement data, and “puts sensitive, confidential data belonging to Maricopa County’s citizens — including social security numbers and protected health information — at risk as well.”
“We also learned that if criminal elements or others gained access to this data, it might compromise county and federal law enforcement efforts and put the lives of law enforcement personnel at risk," Adel wrote.
SENATE RESPONDS TO DOJ: Auditors won't knock on voters' doors in Arizona election review
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors met Friday in a closed-door session to discuss the issue, saying in the meeting agenda that the state Senate had indicated it would "take action" against the county and supervisors if the county doesn't provide the routers and passwords.
After discussing the issue, Republican Supervisors Chairman Jack Sellers released a statement saying that the county could not provide the routers because of the security concerns, but also because doing so will "cripple County operations and cost as much as $6 million" if the county has to replace the routers while the auditors have them.
Penzone: Demand would jeopardize law enforcement
Penzone said that no matter what steps a private contractor promises to take, meeting the state Senate's demand could compromise the integrity of classified data, private information and law enforcement materials....>
More ta follow.....
|May-08-21|| ||perfidious: Continuation:
<.....Maricopa County Sheriff Paul Penzone has raised concerns about the release of county information to the Arizona Senate for its audit of the county's general election.
"Access to this information would adversely affect the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office ability to protect critical evidence, data shared between law enforcement agencies, protected private information and individual passwords, all of which could be used to the detriment of citizens and law enforcement infrastructure," Penzone's statement said.
Penzone, a Democrat re-elected to a second term in November, cautioned of the harm that comes from elected officials driven by partisan politics.
The sheriff said transparency and accountability are democracy's foundation. "But when these words are misrepresented, it defies the fragile balance that exists between freedom and order and all that we believe in."
What AZ Senate Republicans want
It's unclear why the state Senate Republicans want the routers, or which routers exactly they have demanded.
The Senate's second demand is for the passwords to the county's ballot tabulators used on Election Day at voting centers.
The private contractors conducting the audit returned most of the county's machines after pulling data from them, but hung onto the vote center tabulators.
The passwords, according to Bennett, would give the auditors administrative access to voting machines.
But the county says it does not have the administrative passwords.
“The county has provided every password, user name and security key in its custody or control, as commanded by the Senate’s subpoenas, and does not have any others,” Adel wrote in her letter to Bennett.
Sellers said he wouldn't address "every allegation that people cook up these days." But he did, in a lengthy statement on Friday, take up the push for passwords.
The password and security tokens the Senate wants provides access to Dominion Voting Systems' proprietary firmware and source code.
"Elections administrators do not need to access this information to hold an election, and we do not have it in our custody," Sellers said.
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While critics on social media say the county's lack of access to the passwords means county officials were not able to complete a comprehensive and forensic audit of its voting machines earlier this year, a county elections department spokesperson said that is not true. Megan Gilbertson said that the auditors the county hired worked "directly with Dominion to access the necessary administrative security permissions to conduct their audits."
Bennett told The Arizona Republic that he thought that would allow the auditors to run batch reports on ballots. The auditors could use these reports to compare the vote results of its hand count in smaller groups to the results of the county's original vote count, rather than comparing the overall total results.
But Gilbertson said that the county already has provided the state Senate with the logs the contractors would need to perform searches that would allow them to produce batch reports, and the auditors do not need administrative access for that.
Sellers said in his statement that the state Senate had threatened the supervisors with subpoenas again on Friday and said the Senate would compel them to come to the Senate and "explain what we have already made clear."
Sellers emphasized the county is not participating in the state Senate's audit and that the two independent audits the county commissioned showed no foul play in the general election.
"The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors takes its election oversight role seriously and will continue to defend the democratic process," Sellers said in the statement.>
|May-10-21|| ||perfidious: From Politico, on Friday's cyberattack of the Colonial pipeline:|
<The company that operates the biggest gasoline conduit to the East Coast said on Sunday it had no estimate on when it could restart the 5,500-mile pipeline that it shut Friday after a cyberattack, boosting fuel prices in jittery financial markets to their highest level in three years.
Most of the Colonial Pipeline, which supplies nearly half of the East Coast's transportation fuel from the hub of refineries near Houston, remains offline for now, the company said in a statement, though it restarted some smaller lines that run off the main arteries.
Any sustained outage could threaten to push up retail gasoline and diesel prices at the pump just weeks before the start of the summer high-demand driving season. Prices for wholesale gasoline in the financial futures market jumped as much as 4 percent in Sunday evening trading to their highest level since 2018, hitting nearly $2.22 per gallon.
Colonial Pipeline said in a statement it would only "bring our full system back online only when we believe it is safe to do so, and in full compliance with the approval of all federal regulations.”
Colonial also confirmed that hackers used ransomware to shut down its internal computer business networks. That prompted the company to shut down the systems that control the pipeline as a precaution, and it has brought in third-party cybersecurity firms and is trying to restore its IT system, the Georgia-based company said.
The White House has so far not publicly commented on the situation, but the Department of Transportation issued waivers on Sunday allowing drivers of fuel trucks in 17 states along the pipeline's route to work beyond the normal 11-hour driving limit per day because of the shutdown.
"It's an all hands on deck effort right now,” Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said of the government's response during a Sunday television interview. “And we are working closely with the company, state and local officials to, you know, make sure that they get back up to normal operations as quickly as possible and there aren't disruptions in supply."
In its order, DOT said the move was to address "the emergency conditions creating a need for immediate transportation of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, and other refined petroleum products."
The attack that hacker group Darkside landed on Colonial is believed to be the largest publicly disclosed successful attack on U.S. infrastructure. It succeeded in shutting down the delivery of millions of barrels a day of gasoline, diesel and other fuels from refineries along the Gulf Coast to states from Mississippi to New York.
Lawmakers have pointed to the successful cyberattack on one of the country’s main fuel supply arteries as proof both the government and private companies need to significantly improve their cybersecurity measures.>
|May-10-21|| ||chancho: Kevin McCarthy what a putz.
He is going to throw out a hardcore conservative like Liz Cheney (who voted 92% of the time with Trumpo the Low-nificent) out of leadership for Trump ass-kisser Elisa Slotkin?
Maybe he really thinks that pretending the election fraud falsehood will go mainstream, but considering that no real dissension has been detected since the Jan 6th debacle, it seems like most of the people have moved on from Trump's Bullcrap.
|May-10-21|| ||perfidious: Calling McCarthy a putz is grossly insulting to putzes, and integrity is, very clearly, a foreign land to him, unless he can advance his own cause in some fashion, as we have seen.|
I do not have to agree with Cheney's views--and on the whole, do not--but she is someone who possesses courage and principle, so has positive traits, whatever letter comes after her name.
While it is true that most have indeed left the fraud canard in the dust, the obsession over it in certain quarters, including the Rogovian swamp, is evidence of a lack of anything substantive in other directions. Even the ignoramus Sidney Powell has largely gone to ground.
|May-11-21|| ||perfidious: Faux News host Martha MacCallum gets her comeuppance Monday night in droll fashion:|
<<American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten turned an already testy Fox News interview into an extremely heated affair on Monday when she pressed anchor Martha MacCallum about conservative “misinformation” on the last presidential election.
In recent months, there has been a sustained backlash among conservatives over the issue of racial equity in the classroom. GOP legislators across the country have proposed bills to ban the teaching of “critical race theory” in K-12 schools, all while demanding that students be taught that 1776 represents the true founding of America. (Much of this is in response to the New York Times’ 1619 Project, which has sparked criticism among some historians.)
MacCallum, who has been obsessed lately with the topic of critical race theory, wanted to know whether Weingarten believes the 1619 Project is factual and whether she endorses it being part of American history lesson plans. After Weingarten said it’s a “point in history” that’s worth teaching because it represents the first slave ships arriving in America, MacCallum criticized her for having a “very simplistic take.”
Going back and forth over the merits of the project with Weingarten, MacCallum complained that it “is not factual” as it teaches students that the “country was founded on the basis of wanting to preserve slavery.” The union head, meanwhile, said she’s “not arrived at the same conclusion” about the project’s findings.
At that point, Weingarten decided to change the subject to something a bit more touchy for the Fox News anchor.
“I would hope that Fox would be just as focused on let’s get rid of the misinformation about what happened in this election. This election was free and fair,” Weingarten flatly stated, prompting an incensed MacCallum to interject.
“Oh, come on, Randi,” she exclaimed. “This is not the topic we’re here to talk about! I’m not going to talk about that. We’ve talked about that before… That’s a dodge, okay?!”
MacCallum then tried to swing back the discussion to critical race theory in the classroom, only for Weingarten to eventually return to the issue of the past election—which former President Donald Trump and his allies have falsely claimed was “stolen” due to widespread voter fraud.
“If you’re talking about misinformation now, Martha and I hope you are, I really would hope that Fox would really look at what happened in this election and how we can—because every social studies teacher is wrestling with this—to discern fact from fiction. We have to do that,” Weingarten said as MacCallum loudly sighed.
“Yeah, we have a president, President Biden, was elected in 2020. I think that all of that is quite clear,” MacCallum replied. “So I’m not sure why you are so concerned with that part, with that particular moment in history. Every election is significant. Nobody is hiding anything under any rocks here.”
Even though MacCallum insists it’s “quite clear” that Biden is the president, and she doesn’t know why anyone would be “concerned with that part,” recent polls still show as many as 70 percent of Republicans believe Biden didn’t legitimately win. In fact, House Republicans are currently set to oust Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) from leadership solely because she has pushed back on the “Big Lie” that the election was stolen from Trump.
Fox News, of course, has played a big part in helping sow those seeds of doubt among conservatives, which is largely why they are currently facing billion-dollar defamation lawsuits from voting software firms Dominion and Smartmatic.
Finally, Weingarten wasn’t the only person Monday to use her appearance on a conservative news channel to turn the tables and make the segment about right-wing election lies. Former Obama aide David Litt trolled a Newsmax anchor about the network recently retracting a slew of baseless claims to settle a lawsuit with a Dominion employee.>
|May-11-21|| ||perfidious: Gaetz getting closer to the edge of that there cliff:|
<Federal authorities probing Rep. Matt Gaetz are attempting to turn one of his former girlfriends against him, as investigators seek to secure the cooperation of a former Capitol Hill intern who previously dated the Republican lawmaker, CNN reported Tuesday morning.
According to the report, investigators believe the unidentified girlfriend accompanied Gaetz and several others on a 2018 trip to the Bahamas that stands at the center of the probe into whether the Florida congressman violated federal sex trafficking laws and had sex with a minor. The probe has focused on whether women were paid to travel and have sex with Gaetz and his cohorts in the Bahamas and whether the purpose of the trip was to illegally influence the congressman. The former girlfriend—who did not work in Gaetz’s office in Washington—is believed to have “knowledge of drug use and arrangements with women,” several people said to be familiar with the investigation told CNN.
The report comes as former Florida tax collector and Gaetz associate Joel Greenberg has pleaded not guilty to 33 criminal charges that include counts of sex trafficking of a child, wire fraud, and conspiracy to bribe a government official. Greenberg is expected to formally enter into a plea deal to cooperate with authorities. Greenberg’s attorney last month insinuated that if his client were to reach an agreement with prosecutors it could involve providing some kind of damaging information about Gaetz.
Sources familiar with the investigation told CNN that information about the Bahamas trip from Greenberg and Gaetz’s former girlfriend will likely be critical as the Justice Department’s public integrity section reaches a decision about whether there is sufficient evidence to pursue a prosecution against Gaetz.
“The cooperation of Greenberg and the former girlfriend could be among the final steps in the probe of Gaetz. Investigators view both as crucial to understanding the relevance of hundreds of transactions they have obtained records of, including those involving payments for sex,” the report stated. “The ex-girlfriend could also be questioned by investigators about a second woman as they try to determine whether Gaetz may have slept with that woman when she was only 17.”
Authorities previously executed search warrants and seized the personal cell phones of Gaetz and his former girlfriend in December.
Gaetz, who has not been charged in the matter, has denied wrongdoing, denied seeking a pardon from Trump, claimed he is the victim of an extortion plot, and blamed Attorney General Merrick Garland for an investigation that began when Bill Barr served in that role. Gaetz said he has never paid for sex and he claimed that the last time he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old was when he was 17. He also set his Venmo transaction history to private.
A Gaetz spokesperson told CNN that its “story” was “simply a regurgitation of the same falsehoods you’ve been peddling for two months now without a shred of evidence or a single on-record accuser.”>
|May-11-21|| ||perfidious: A piece detailing the reasons Liz Cheney may well be facing a date with the executioner:|
<If House Republicans vote to purge Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney as their third-ranking leader in a secret ballot vote Wednesday, it will cement their commitment to the political legacy of former President Donald Trump.
That vote to take away Cheney's leadership role seems likely, but there has been a last-minute push by Republican senators and conservatives in the House that could mean surprises.
As this drama unfolds, it's worth looking back at what exactly Cheney -- the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney -- did to spark the campaign to oust her, and why it seems so likely to cost her this job.
What did Liz Cheney do?
The acts for which Cheney is being threatened with removal from the Republican leadership are twofold.
First, she voted to impeach Trump. Along with nine other House Republicans, Cheney sided with Democrats and voted to impeach Trump earlier this year after he fomented the storming of the Capitol and rebellion against the Electoral College.
She said he, "summoned this mob, assembled the mob and lit the flame of this attack."
"There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution," Cheney said.
But Cheney was the only member of the House GOP leadership to vote for impeachment. This in itself was not enough to cost her the leadership position. In the shocked aftermath of the storming of the Capitol she maintained the support of House GOP leader, Kevin McCarthy, and easily survived an earlier secret ballot effort to oust her.
Second, she wouldn't be quiet about it. Rather than show penance for her vote, and unlike other GOP leaders in Congress, Cheney has refused to either buy into the false reality that the election was stolen from Trump or quietly tolerate it.
When Trump pushed it again this month, she called him out
"The 2020 presidential election was not stolen," Cheney tweeted in early May after Trump said it was. "Anyone who claims it was is spreading THE BIG LIE, turning their back on the rule of law, and poisoning our democratic system."
What's clear from this episode is that critical thinking -- and criticism of Trump -- will not be tolerated in the GOP.
Why do Republicans want to oust her from the leadership role?
It was for this continued airing of differences that McCarthy turned on Cheney, either leading or following the rest of the caucus.
He has endorsed Rep. Elise Stefanik, a New Yorker who is more moderate on policy as Republicans go but has solidified her bona fides by aiding and abetting Trump's conspiracy theories.
On the one hand, this makes complete sense. If the vast majority of the party is either pushing or willing to tolerate the false idea that the election was stolen from Trump, despite all the evidence to the contrary, their leaders should share those views....>
More to follow....
|May-11-21|| ||perfidious: Da rest of it:
<....McCarthy argues that members can have whatever views they want and their constituents will tolerate. But Cheney's leadership job requires her to unite the party against Democrats.
"Any member can take whatever position they believe in," McCarthy told Fox News over the weekend. "The voters vote on the individuals and they make that. What we're talking about is a position in leadership."
And the party leaders need to be united against Democrats, he said, arguing the other party has a socialist agenda for the country.
What does the party conference chair do?
The way it's supposed to work is that the House GOP Conference chair "generally communicates the House Republican message to the public," according to the House GOP website.
And specifically on this, Cheney's message is out of step with a party that is in Trump's thrall.
Cheney has continued to communicate, factually, that fraud did not cost Trump the election, and that it's more important for Republicans to stick by their commitment to the Constitution rather than the appeal of Trump.
"History is watching," she wrote in The Washington Post. "Our children are watching. We must be brave enough to defend the basic principles that underpin and protect our freedom and our democratic process. I am committed to doing that, no matter what the short-term political consequences might be."
Will a vote to remove Cheney from that role mean she gets kicked out of Congress?
It's important to note here that Cheney will still be a Republican and will still be in Congress whatever happens on Wednesday. House Republicans, to McCarthy's point, are respectful of the fact that Wyoming's voters elected Cheney as their representative. They'll get the chance to elect Cheney or someone else in 2022 at the midterm election. It seems likely that Cheney will face a primary challenge if she decides to run again. Read more here about the view from Wyoming, where a lot of Republicans seem to believe Trump won the election.
The vote to kick Cheney out of the House leadership will likely occur Wednesday, and it is expected that North Carolina Rep. Virginia Foxx will start the process during a closed-door meeting. Republicans may not move to vote on replacing Cheney, either with Stefanik or someone else, for another week or more.
And what comes next for Republicans?
There are many current and former Republicans concerned about the direction the party is taking.
There are former party leaders, like George W. Bush. There are moderates, like former Pennsylvania Rep. Charlie Dent, now a CNN contributor. There are former governors like Ohio's John Kasich. There are Republicans who self-purged themselves from the party, like former Michigan Rep. Justin Amash -- who became an independent before leaving Congress altogether -- and Republicans who were more forcefully purged like former Sen. Jeff Flake.
John Boehner, the former House Speaker, has written about his difficulty leading a party that is increasingly anti-establishment.
But it is his often-repeated quip about leadership that explains Cheney's problem with the current GOP.
"A leader with no followers is just a guy taking a walk," he says, explaining how he'd be forced into positions he didn't like in order to keep the party unified.
In this case, it's a woman, Cheney, who is refusing to walk away from the Constitution. We'll see how many followers she has in the current House GOP.>
|May-11-21|| ||perfidious: Romney on the current war of fealty or ruination amongst Republicans:|
<In a single sentence on Monday night, Mitt Romney explained why the planned removal of Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney from her leadership position in the House on Wednesday is such a giant mistake for Republicans.
"Expelling Liz Cheney from leadership won't gain the GOP one additional voter, but it will cost us quite a few," tweeted the Utah senator (and 2012 Republican presidential nominee).
Yup. Nailed it.
Here is the political reality that Republicans currently face: They don't control the White House, the Senate or the House. They have lost the popular vote in seven out of the last eight presidential races. Republicans face their largest deficit on the party identification question in almost a decade. And the man who oversaw these losses -- Donald J. Trump -- is deeply unpopular among the general electorate.
It doesn't take a political genius to figure out that the Republican Party needs to grow, considerably, if it wants to return to the once-dominant position it held in the early 2000s.
"Cancel culture is cancel culture, no matter how you look at it," said Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst about the effort to remove Cheney. "I support President Trump and his policies, so I have a slightly different view on that -- but I still think we shouldn't be trying to cancel voices."
The die is, of course, cast. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (California) has not only signaled his plan to hold a removal vote to oust Cheney as GOP Conference Chair on Wednesday but has also signaled his support for New York Rep. Elise Stefanik to replace her.
And amazingly, he has justified his actions by referencing the idea of the GOP as a "big tent party." He included that phrase in a letter to GOP members justifying his plans. He added in that same letter:
"We represent Americans of all backgrounds and continue to grow our movement by the day. And unlike the left, we embrace free thought and debate. All members are elected to represent their constituents as they see fit, but our leadership team cannot afford to be distracted by the important work we were elected to do and the shared goals we hope to achieve."
Now, to be clear, I don't think that the average American is watching the machinations of House Republican leaders. Despite Cheney's famous last name -- her father was the vice president of the United States during the George W. Bush presidency -- most people in the country are simply not focused on whether she remains in leadership or not.
"I was in Nebraska all last week and not one Nebraskan asked me about Liz Cheney," Nebraska Republican Sen. Deb Fischer said Monday. "I think you guys are focused on this intra-party fighting." Added Florida Republican Sen. Rick Scott, who runs the party's campaign committee: "No one is talking about this."
Which, again, is probably right! But also sort of misses the point.
The point is this: Actions have consequences. And removing Cheney from leadership solely because she voted to impeach Trump and believes he should not play a major role in the party going forward sends a message. And replacing her with Stefanik, who has become a national star on the back of her full-throated defense of Trump during both impeachment proceedings against him, sends that same message.
The message? This is Trump's party and anyone -- ANYONE -- who doesn't get in line behind him at all times no matter what will be severely punished. (That get-in-line mentality extends all the way to insisting -- against all objective facts -- that the 2020 election was fraudulent or stolen.)
The inevitable result then of the purging of any and all anti-Trump voices within the party leadership will be to chill ANY dissent, unless, like Cheney, those speaking up are willing to lose leadership positions (or their political careers) for doing so.
All of which means that the Republican Party will grow even Trumpier. And that's a major problem for Republicans because there simply aren't enough Americans who love (or even like) Trump for Republicans to grow their party via total fealty to the former president.
The removal of Cheney is a recipe to shrink a party that badly needs to grow. Romney understands that -- having come up short in his fight for the White House.
Republicans would do well to listen to him. But they won't.>
|May-11-21|| ||chancho: A Republican congressman said no man is bigger than the constitution and that he was tired of Trump's election falsehood.|
He is absolutely right.
So Trump can go lick a crapstick.
These Trumpian wingnuts accepting a charlatan like Trump (after his four year clownshow) are way beyond shameful.
These Trumpian morons must have lost all common sense if they are ready to disregard all truth and fact for someone like him.
Trump's lie (no matter how long his supporters maintain their facade), will eventually be exposed when the light of truth is shined upon it.
|May-12-21|| ||perfidious: Bowling Green massacre.
|May-12-21|| ||perfidious: Words to live by from Liz Cheney in the aftermath of her date with the executioner:|
<'Remaining silent and ignoring the lie emboldens the liar.'>
Response from Mr Class himself, the former Tinpot Despot:
<'Liz Cheney is a bitter, horrible human being. I watched her yesterday and realized how bad she is for the Republican Party. She has no personality or anything good having to do with politics or our Country.'>
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